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    Larger mSATA SSDs

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by YAYTech, Jun 12, 2012.

  1. YAYTech

    YAYTech Notebook Consultant

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    I see that Newegg offers a few mSATA SSDs larger than what are being offered in the Sagers (120gb & 240gb), and am curious why they're not offered? I see they're only offered (on Newegg at least) from Mushkin & OCZ. I'm guessing these are brands/products not trusted enough to offer?

    I'm hoping there are some solid offerings in this area in a year or so, and add a good size mSATA SSD OS drive to compliment the 750gb 7200rpm HD coming in my 9150.
     
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    mSATA drives, while nothing really new, have yet to come down to a good price that would make every customer happy.

    I have faith that, as we have seen with past innovations in technology, the mSATA SSD will eventually come down in price as the technology improves and more of them are produced.

    Sager has their own reasons for having their specific, limited, selection of components.

    Just remember that, even though Sager may not offer it, doesn't mean you can't ask a reseller if they can install it for you or you can also just purchase the drive you want and install it yourself.
     
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  3. YAYTech

    YAYTech Notebook Consultant

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    I didn't think $360 for a 240gb SSD the size of a wifi card was too shabby, especially if they are correct about the 560/530 mbps read/write speeds. I'm not ready to spend that kind of money now, but I could see where someone would, and it gives me hope for my options in a year or two. :)
     
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    Though the mSata port on some laptops are still sata 2.0 (3gbps) speeds so you won't get the full 560/530.
     
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  5. YAYTech

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    I'm curious how the speed rating system works, when a 3gbps interface can't sustain 560mbps. Different method of measure? Terminology difference? Or just real world vs spec jargon?
     
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    I think your thinking a Sata 2 is 3GB/s when it is really 3Gbits/s. 3Gbits is actually 300MB/s with the overhead involved. Sata3 is 6Gbits, which is 600 MB/s.
     
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    A couple of years ago, a 240GB SSD was over $600. Now they are about a buck a GB unless you get a sale. So in a year or two, I would expect mSata drives to be a lot cheaper. Just like any tech, new is costly, widely used is cheaper. If you a patient, the prices will drop, since I see many lappys now using mSata slots. In a year or two, it very well may be half the cost.
     
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    There we go, I figured I was missing something somewhere.

    Is the mSATA interface limited to SATA2, or is that just what happens to be in the 9150? As long as the interface doesn't have a limitation, I could see 2.5" HD slots in laptops become a semi-rare thing in 2-3 years in favor of mSATA or similar.
     
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    Obviously the mSATA interface isn't limited to SATA 2, otherwise they wouldn't make and sell mSATA SATA 3 SSDs. This is just a limitation of the mSATA port of the Clevo notebooks.

    And I don't know about 2.5" HD slots vanishing from the notebook market, the mSATA SATA 3 SSDs still can't reach the performance of the normal SATA 3 SSDs, besides the SSD still is a lot more expensive than an HDD, but maybe someday...
     
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    The msata slot is limited by the motherboard implementation. But msata ssds can perform equivalent to their 2.5" counterparts. Just fine a review of the crucial m4 and Samsung 830 msata ssds.

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk
     
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  12. Sorbus

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    It's just what happens to be in this generation of Clevos; there's no fundamental reason that the mSATA connector can't support SATA III, other than the chipsets in laptops not yet supporting it (I actually recall reading about a laptop with a SATA III mSATA connector, but I don't remember which one it was).
     
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    I would recommend that you buy a full 240GB SSD. Really mSATA is great as a caching a solution, or a small OS drive with conventional HDs as data storage.

    But if you want OS and full application performance from the SSD itself, then get a full sized SSD for the SATAIII bay in the device and skip the mSATA.

    mSATA is a great technology, but it is not meant to replace, but to compliment where it makes sense. Caching or small SSD boot for convention HD setups, that's its strength.
     
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  14. isrnick

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    Actually mSATA was made to be used in ultrabooks and such as the main storage drive, not as a compliment to something else...
     
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    The difference is in the write speeds.
     
    isrnick, Jun 13, 2012
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