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    Life with my Clevo P370SM-A (i74810,16DDR3,2x880m), also, upgrades ?

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by madmaxgamer, Jun 10, 2017.

  1. madmaxgamer

    madmaxgamer Newbie

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    I have this laptop since summer 2014.
    https://www.notebookcheck.net/Revie...ker-XMG-P724-Barebones-Notebook.114495.0.html

    When i bought it, it ran every game at max, 60 Fps. Thing is, it still does it today, on 80% of the games out there, and my new hobby is to run old games at 4k with the Nvidia DSR, even though the screen is 1080p. I used to own a desktop, and considered laptops not-for-real-gamers, but this was the piece of hardware that changed my mind, when i was forced to switch to mobile, due to being on the road all the time for my job.
    Since then, this little machine has been slammed, dropped a few times, transported literally 10 times around the world, vibrated to hell and back, and ran thousands upon thousands of hours. I have taken good care of it, software-wise. It always ran Win7, no malware, bare minimum processes running, defragged and optimized.
    Hardware wise, i cleaned the dust regularly from the fans, like weekly with a jet of air, and every few months i open it and clean it more thoroughly. In the past 3 years, i once, last year, finally decided to replace paste and the GPU cooling pads. I got 2 GPUs, and they were both idling at 50-60 degrees. Used Arctic Cool 5 paste after seeing some reviews, and some 9 Watt cooling pads. And boy it showed... GPUs were idling at 30-35 now.
    Initial problems when i bought it, consisted of just one: The screen started showing grey pixels, 2 months after purchase. I contacted support, and they offered to change it for free, if i shipped them the laptop. I told them i couldnt afford to be parted with it for weeks until it came back, and since they refused to sell me just a screen so i can replace it myself, i instead, learned to live with my grey pixels. They are now numerous, and look just like a dirty screen. Most of the time i dont notice them anymore.
    Recently, it is developing a new problem though... One of the GPU fans, is dying. It cant handle games anymore, makes a buzzing sound, and barely cools. I tried searching for the part, to replace it, but couldnt find it. I finally found it, i hope, on a site called DHgate, from China. I am still awaiting delivery, but i am very nervous, as i dont trust that shady site. If this turns out to be a scam, i just threw away 50$(i know, for a fan), and will not be able to find the fan elsewhere.
    Anyway, assuming that goes well, i am thinking about upgrades.
    This is where i would like to ask you guys, what can i upgrade, whats the best CPU and GPU i can stick in this thing, thats compatible with it, and doesnt get bottle-necked by it.

    P.S.: Is there a 4k screen i can stick in it, that is compatible ? I have no idea how screen compatibility works on laptops.
     
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    sicily428 Donuts!! :)

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    bennyg Notebook Virtuoso

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    For the fan, find the service manual, look in the parts list section, and search by part number. Fans are usually used across multiple models and are fairly available. While you wait for postage give the fan a drop of lube if you haven't (a proper electronics lubricant is preferred but wd40 will suffice if that's all you have)

    For the panel you can do the same thing or you can run a util like HWInfo to grab the screen model number and search that on eBay / aliexpress, shouldn't be much more than a hundred bucks.

    The 4k screen problem is the cable. Your current screen is either non-3D and uses the LVDS port on the mobo (which can't provide the bandwidth for anything beyond 1080p60) or a 3D version that uses the eDP port on your mobo but won't plug straight in to a 4K panel. Darcoder baked his own cable on his P377SMA and got a 4K working - find his thread here on NBR to see how hard it is

    The service manuals are all on a thread on TechInferno but you will need 5 posts to download from that site

    As for gpu upgrade. Clevo 980Ms been done to death on all P370 models that's your proven upgrade path. 1060 and 1070 (case mod) from MSI work, Gecube 1070 should but is MIA due to QC issues still AFAICT, other brands won't work due to the clevo thermal sensor auto shutdown thing but the problem is display: nvidia cut LVDS support from Pascal, they will not output to internal display through LVDS, only eDP.
     
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    t6nn_k Notebook Consultant

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    So what youre telling me is, 4K display will only work with eDP, and any future GPU upgrades, will also require eDP, like say... a future Volta(1180M?). And no, i dont have a 3D screen. So im guessing baking is something to do with soldering... Oh boy... I will see what i can do, but this helped a lot, thanks man. Im not gonna go for a 980m as an upgrade, they cost too much for what the small improvement. I will either try a 1080, or a Volta at some point... if i can figure out that baking thing... Also, im guessing there wont be power/compatibility problems ? Other than that cable i mean...
     
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    Saltsi Notebook Guru

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    I have successfully upgraded my 60hz screen 120hz screen, which is a really great panel, using the eDP cable i bought. My story with part numbers is on Techinferno.

    4k screen upgrade is probably impossible due to eDP cable differences and pin counts, would have to craft the whole cable from scratch.

    https://www.techinferno.com/index.p...d-60hz-lcd-monitor-with-a-120hz-3d-on-p370sm/

    I'v also upgraded my 880m with 980m just last week, works perfect!. Got a firestrike score of 9016 with i7-4810mq and 980m clocked at 1255mhz boost.

    Also now that i have my display connected with eDP the gtx 10 series upgrade should work...
     
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    Sounds like you are having a lot of fun :)

    At the moment the 1060 which would be the easiest to fit is not a huge upgrade. Future cards would be more interesting if they could work.
     
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    Are the new xxxx GTX out of the question ? Will a future upgrade have to be with the xxxxM ? Also, fun fact : Everytime i pass through airport security with the laptop, they start scratching their heads, scan my laptop twice, and ask me "what the hell is this ?"(referring to the power brick). I saw one of the new Sager models having 2 of those. Any chance they could be reduced to 1 in the future ?
     
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    Lol I was using the term "baked" as slang, an Aussie trait. Sorry. Real baking is for food, and dead 7970M's :)

    He just wired it himself. Theres a thread somewhere round here where he has the schematics of the board and panel. But he didnt use the voltage right and caused problems. Its doable but extremely tricky given the fine pitch of the connectors. 0.25mm or whatever.

    1080 will always cause problems as they draw more than the MXM slot can provide. A 1070 should be ok.

    Yes pascal/polaris onwards will only work with eDP out, as a rule. Couple of exceptions, optimus can have the igpu translate to the LVDS out (but P37xxx has no Optimus) or you could try an add in converter board that plugs onto your mobo's edp port and then your LVDS cable+panel plugs into that. But youd be trailblazing with that one. Easier to buy a eDP cable and screen panel