List your solutions to Enduro

This is not a thread for people who just want to whine and gripe about Enduro. There seems to be a plethora and honestly, too many overexaggerated, and embellished threads/posts already.

This is the thread for people who actually want to focus on problem solving and getting it to work.

So far games I play have been able to match what I see being posted on AW with Enduro off.

Prime the 7970M
My method, I simply just click on Kombuster. I don't run any benchmark etc. Just have it open. I have switchable graphics in CCC set to disable on notifying on unassigned applications. I just have Kombuster listed as high performance. For whatever reason, Kombuster gets my 7970M activated instantly, and ready to rock.

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Be sure your power conservation is set to performance. This seems to be separate from the power profiles. I had it set to performance in windows power manager, but in the Clevo power conservation, it was on balanced.

 

I don't have my laptop yet but would like to know to.
By the way what kombuster and ccc is?I never had a computer with amd graphics.

 

kombuster is msi kombuster will come with msi afterburner if you download that

that is an interesting solution huluwafu i will be sure to try that when i get a chance.
thanks for posting

i very much approve of this thread

 

As birdsonbat said, Kombuster is just Furmark essentially, that comes packaged with Afterburner. But Furmark is I think stresses your GPU to unstable conditions, Kombuster is more stable and definitely more reflective of what your GPU will experience in actual real use.

CCC is the Catalyst Control Center.

In case you don't know what CCC is and the Switchable Graphics option

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Can you try running a game or benchmark that is known to have an issue with enduro? 3dmark06 for example, or even kombustor and have a look at gpu utilization %.

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Never going to run 3DMark06 again. Last I touched that outdated rubbish was with a Nvidia 7700M.

I care about the games I play... Max Payne 3 is fluid at high settings with DX11 features on etc. Skyrim running great. Witcher 2 phenomenal. Saints 3 great. And Shogun 2 running like it's butter.

Post solutions to the games you play, I'm not concerned about games I don't play and especially really old, outdated cruddy synthetic benchmarks.

 

Pardon, but I'm a noob again to all this (it's been a very long time), why wouldn't setting something with a smaller footprint on your ram that's already needed to run in the background be any different from Kombuster. Let's say I set my anti-virus to high performance. Would that be possible, too? Or how about opening Notepad and setting that to high performance. I like your idea and I'm just wondering out loud, I guess.

 

Kombustor tests OpenGL 2, 3, 4 and DirectX 9,10,11. Furmark only tests OpenGL.

Kombustor is much more configurable and stable.

Priming Enduro or Optimus is a good idea and was used quite a bit when Optimus was young, although it still was problematic time and again. But if it works, I guess it's a good workaround for the time being. We did this on the DV6z using GPU-z to activate the GPU for overclocking.

 

fair enough, its just that the title of your thread implies fixes to Enduro issue, which is a little misleading as I can see from your screenshot that you are also experiencing 7970m GPU under-utilization problem (its at 86%, should be 99%). Even though those games are all running "great" your card is still under performing, though it affects some games much worse than others.
The reason I asked to run 3dmark06 is so you could compare it to alienware 7970m scores with Enduro disabled.

 

exactly. So far only 3dmark11 seems to use 99% our GPU, dunno much about new games, cause at im only playing League of Legends which uses my GPU for only 30% (even though FPS is at 60 solid). The Enduro thing, and the GPU utilization has to be fixed via drivers, if we can t disable it via BIOS, and i dunno about this.

 

Hmmm thats an interesting find i must say, will definitely try it out when i get my laptop on the 12th

 

I've actually tried setting HWiNFO to High Performance so that when it starts, it will see the GPU temps. The problem is, even if you set it to high performance, it doesn't look like the GPU switches until it has to (probably to be more power efficient).

Just tried it with Notepad. That doesn't seem to work either.

 

Well the whole reason I went with the m17x was just made pointless. Lol

 

What I have tried:

Default Clevo drivers, several 12.6/.7 revisions, 9.00 12.x leak. 9.00 works best, but still not great.

Disabling the ultra low power state or starting a 3d program allows monitoring software to "see" my 7970m immediately, but it does nothing to fix the utilization issues because I never had difficulty with the switchable graphics settings. My drivers detect high perf applications nicely, but utilization is low in those programs after the 7970m is enabled.

Utilization drops to 60% at times in Just Cause 2, Crysis 2, and a few other games. Witcher 2 is better, and 3DMark11 never had any issues except a low combined score with the default drivers. Interestingly, the utilization drops are reproducible. They ALWAYS happen at the same place in the Adrenaline C2 benchmark and the campaign; the same goes for JC2. To me, they seem too reproducible to be some random glitch.

CPU utilization also drops with GPU utilization. Neither the CPU nor the GPU are throttling. Something is starving the GPU, but I have no reason to believe it is the CPU directly.

Interestingly, the low combined score in 3DMark11 resulted from a situation similar to what I see with games. Low CPU and GPU utilization led to a 20% performance deviation from expected. The 9.00 drivers fixed that issue, but not the problems observed in games. That gives me hope.

 

Nice trick! My 3dmark11 score increased by 40pts
AMD Radeon HD 7970M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-3720QM Processor,CLEVO P170EM score: P5988 3DMarks

 

Hulawafu77, 70FPS on max? If so, that sounds incredible.
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Previously benchmarked to run at 50FPS average on Ultra.

 

So not sure why but when I run kombuster on high performance, It just uses the hd 4000...

 

Thanks for giving that a try. I wish AMD would get to the bottom of all this sooner than later. I love my laptop but I'm not convinced I've seen its true potential yet.

 

in CCC which programs set to high performance? only games and benchmark tools?

 

Wow, I began hitting 130 fps max on SC2 Extreme preset :O (not avg tho).

 

You said it for me Also had the same thoughts. A lot of people are sattisfied and dont report issues coz they dont know, But when they start to play something like battlefiedl 3 they'll find out its impossible to set things to get steady fps. the utilization changes in every scene and also fps so you can get a steady shot. Whats weard even if you set everithing to minimmum you will also see performace dips. Dips are usually in CPU demanding scenes like when everything is exploding. But I dont think that a 3610qm could be a boutleneck in something. As you tryed all the driver s do you find those 9.00 to work better in some cases ??

 

I'm going to give this Kombustor workaround a try. I have been gettin 60FPS all day in Skyrim and min 120 max 160 in Dawn of War 2. I get around 30 in BF3 on ultra so I want to see if this grabs me some frames.

 

this is a serious issue and no method can fix. please submit your report here to amd.
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done! come on guys lets let them know our problems so they can fix them!

 

I'm showing 98.8% max GPU utilization for GTA4 and 99.5% utilization for Crysis 2 on the stock drivers. I should do more testing.

 

Realy ?? all the time ?? even at night time in gta 4?? or with explostions going on in crysis 2 with dx 11 and hi-rez? I also get good utilization when there's nothing goin on in crysis or gta but when theres more action fps dips..

 

I'll get back to you on that tomorrow after proper testing.

 

Actually I just played gta 4 a bit , and I get utilization never over 50% oon the gpu. Even overclocked or non overclocked. When im not overclocked I get like 50% and when overcloked 1000/1500 I get 40-43 % utilization and same frames.I also noticed that the Cpu is not running at its max , I saw tha max utlization on WH info was around 60% even when running throttlestop. Actually the game is playeble its around 30 fps all the time but I could imagine when running properly to get 60 fps all the time> games play and lok much better then..
BTW this is on the 1.0.4.0- patch which I think perfomes the best. Dont know if 1.0.7.0 is better for Ivy bridge.This was on the stock clevo drivers from the cd

 

please do, my 7970m GPU usage varies all over the place in Crysis 2, sometimes I get lower FPS than with my 6970M.

 

I'm wondering what would be the best way to test and show the results of said testing - and also be easy for others to reproduce themselves so comparisons can be easily made. Also which games/applications to use to test for GPU utilization.

I think for example the benchmark tests for GTA4 for example would be the best way to test that game, as opposed to gameplay which cannot be reproduced in exactly the same way by others.

Also maybe a single new topic for the results of the testing to avoid cluttering this thread.

 

i think its sufficient to confirm there is an under-utilization issue, as you either have it or you dont, and it affects all clevo 7970ms in the same way. If you run a game and your utilization drops significantly bellow 90% in MSI afterburner then you are experiencing the problem.

 

Just did a bit of GTA4, and I used the logging for HWiNFO:

Paste // Slexy 2.0

I'd say there's a little under-utilization up in here.

 

Be sure your power conservation is set to performance. This seems to be separate from the power profiles. I had it set to performance in windows power manager, but in the Clevo power conservation, it was on balanced.

 

i checked this a few days ago and it made 0 diff... id like to know what exactly it does

 

Made huge difference for me.

 

for me it also does nothing to improve performance in any way.

 

man 12.7 official needs to come out... its my small light at the end of a very long tunnel

 

Where did you get that app????

I don't have that...or do I???

 

FN+ESC will bring up that menu

 

That's awesome! What else is there?

FN + 1 I've got (max fans)

 

i really dont know why some people have max fans and others dont... id kill for max fans

 

yep, i dont have max fan either.. i did in my p170hm. Could it be two different revisions of bios / EC firmware?

 

Really?? I know that shis feature was on the older HM models but didn know its also here. When I press fn+1 nothing happens. Did you install some kind of app or hotkey driver to make it work ?? I have all the drivers from the cd installed ..I think

 

I don't believe it's a driver, but hard coded in BIOS.

 

How the hell!? You're lucky!

How do you confirm you have it? Does anything pop up or do you just hear it?

 

well fn+1 doesnt work for me, but ill definetly try the kombuster trick

 

WOW I HAVE p150em

FN+ESC doesnt pop out the menu but

FN+1 max fans kicks in , i tohught p150-em never had fan control!!!. is it just me and some other guys or all of you have it. We need to to investigate ?

 

You hear it .

 

When I click FN+ESC so the conrol panel open
but how to control fan?

 

what U mean by that?