Low 3DMark11 Score with 680M on P150EM

Hello guys,

Based some research I've done, the typical stock 680M should have a 3DMark11 score of ~6100 using Performance. However, my scores are around 5600-5700. It may be worth noting that on my first run, I got 6003, but every run afterwards was lower and eventually settled at the range mentioned above.

Can someone help me figure out what the problem is?
In addition, will a difference in score of 400-500 make any noticeable difference in gaming performance?

Hardware & Software
Model: P150EM Special Edition
OS: WIndows 7 Ultimate x64
Nvidia Driver: 314.22
CPU: 3630QM
RAM: 16MB at 1600Mhz

Windows Settings
Windows set to "High Performance"
Sager Hotkey (Fn+Esc) set to "Performance"
Max fans enabled (Fn+1)

Nvidia Settings
High Performance NVIDIA Processor
Vertical Sync: Off
PhyX: Auto

Throttle Stop Settings
Setting 1: Preformance
Set Multiplier: Turbo, checked
EIST, checked
C1E, checked
Everything else unchecked

Scores Without Throttle Stop 5.0
5690
5774
5676
5675
5674

Scores With Throttle Stop 5.0
5664
5676
5579
5675
5684

Rough Breakdown
Graphics scores ~5500
Phyx scores ~7600
Combined scores ~4900

Josh

 

strange.
try running 3dmark in sig below and see if those scores are more close to the norm.
also check the other links in my sig that has quite a few scores on mark11,3dmark and vantage.

the one thing you havnt mentioned is what hard drive are you using, spindle or ssd and which model.

Sager Hotkey (Fn+Esc) set to "Performance" (never used so cant advise but will check tonight).
Max fans enabled (Fn+1) (lucky you as the 150EM model doesnt have this feature for the rest of us except from sager).

 

Yes Fn+ESC set to performance, assuming you have Hotkey Drivers installed. Or just go to your battery icon in the lower right corner and set to high performance.

 

didnt know that was the same thing as never heard of fn and esc. me always run high performance so never had to change anything. and if i did i would always use the battery on taskbar.

 

Prema's modded BIOS enables this feature (although with a different key combination, Fn+9) for all 150EM/170EM laptops, doesn't it?
My Metabox P170EM also didn't support max fans feature out of the box, I have installed Prema's modded BIOS to it and now it can compete with a vacuum cleaner in terms of noise.

Courtesy of Prema:
:thumbsup: P-EM / NP9-Series | Prema Mod :thumbsup:

 

hadnt seen Prema's mod before. cheers :thumbsup:

 

Benchmark software aside - how do your games run?

 

bejeweled on facebook runs amazingly for me, thanks for asking

 

If asking for advice based on 3dmark scores, please post complete compare results so that we can look at each test as they each can indicate what is going wrong.

 

I have a Samsung 840 Pro 128GB with a 750GB spindle in the DVD drive. I just reinstalled 3DMark11 from the spindle to the SDD (C Drive). My scores are now around 5890. ThrottleStop still makes no difference.

Without TS
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-3630QM Processor,CLEVO P15xEMx score: P5900 3DMarks
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-3630QM Processor,CLEVO P15xEMx score: P5893 3DMarks
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-3630QM Processor,CLEVO P15xEMx score: P5885 3DMarks

With TS
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-3630QM Processor,CLEVO P15xEMx score: P5893 3DMarks
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-3630QM Processor,CLEVO P15xEMx score: P5892 3DMarks
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-3630QM Processor,CLEVO P15xEMx score: P5892 3DMarks

3DMark Vantage is still installed onto the spindle drive, but it gives a consistent ~21000 score, which appears to be normal.

I'll run some 3DMark later today.

 

Your CPU scores are normal but your GPU scores are a bit off, that's where you need to look.

 

How are your temps looking?

What kind of surface is your notebook on?

And finally can you run the same benchmark after the notebook has powered on after being off for a few hours and post results please?

 

I ran a 3DMark
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-3630QM Processor,CLEVO P15xEMx

Should installing 3DMark11 to non SSD HD affect the score?

I'll shutdown my computer tonight and run some tests tomorrow to see if the scores are affected.

As for gaming, I just got this computer up and running, so I don't have any installed.

Anyone know a software I should use to track temperature?

 

By the way, does the 3DMark website look kind of crammed when using the Search feature for results?

 

Hi,

I use hwinfo64 for cpu/GPU in combination with Core temp which is only reporting Temps For the CPU.

If i am at a Game, i use MSI afterburner to Monitor temp, RAM load and Clock Speed for the GPU inside the Game (osd Function by afterburner)

 

My old alienware with gtx680m got about the same result as you did. Have you tried using different version driver?

 

all monitoring software in sig below.

 

I have the most up to date driver. Do you think rolling back to the factory default will help?

 

Here are some more runs with temperature. I used MSI Afterburner and recorded the max temp. After each run, I closed MSI to reset the temperature. Max fans were not enabled this time, but I placed the computer such that there was a lot of clearance for the intake.

3DMark
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-3630QM Processor,CLEVO P15xEMx - 79C
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-3630QM Processor,CLEVO P15xEMx - 80C
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-3630QM Processor,CLEVO P15xEMx - 80C
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-3630QM Processor,CLEVO P15xEMx - 80C

3DMark11
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-3630QM Processor,CLEVO P15xEMx score: P5802 3DMarks - 81C
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-3630QM Processor,CLEVO P15xEMx score: P5817 3DMarks - 77C
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-3630QM Processor,CLEVO P15xEMx score: P5822 3DMarks - 76C
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-3630QM Processor,CLEVO P15xEMx score: P5807 3DMarks - 80C

 

Your clock speeds or a screenshot of MSI afterburner graphs after the test would be useful. With my 680m, completely stock I get around 6100, havent tried it on any recent drivers though. Your running 320.00? The driver version doesn't match I don't think if it is that.

I would run a few games benchmarks, see if they are ok, I wouldn't be too worried about 200 points in 3dmark11.

Your clocks running at full speed during the test? I know the dell 680m has a preset turbo speed of 758mhz vs base clock speed of 719mhz does GPU-Z or similar show the turbo speed of your card?

 

Here is a 3DMark11 with various other info.
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-3630QM Processor,CLEVO P15xEMx score: P5837 3DMarks - 82C

 

I know the drivers can have a slight effect on the scores you get, might be worth trying the latest BETA ones, they are usually very stable for me tbh.

The clocks etc look good tbh, but I don't really pay much attention to benchmarks if my laptop is working as it should be. I would say that the drivers aren't the best ones for benching. Might be worth trying to +135mhz on the core clock, see if its stable, I am pretty sure the 680m is stable with the higher core clock speeds tbh. I've ran it at 888mhz and it was fine for me.

 

I've installed the latest beta drivers. In 3DMark the scores seem to be a little bit higher, but 3DMark11 is still around 5800 range. I will upload the scores later. Does anyone know why my graphics card is a bit lower then others?

 

Are you running the steam version of 11?

 

I think this would be a good option to try. Most benchmarks incorporate the Kepler boost function either automatically or disabled in conjunction with using overclocks.

One explanation of your low scores may be a completely disabled boost function (not really a big problem). Try using MSI AB or NvidiaInspector to +135 on the core and report your scores.

 

I have the 3DMark 11 Basic Edition

 

Through steam or direct download?

 

Direct download.

 

Without overclocking, I ran MSI Kombustor for various tests. In some of them the GPU throttles, as the temperature reaches around 90C. Is this normal?

Fractal Flame with 4,000,000 particles

 

GF OC Test: The dip in the GPU usage is because of the screen saver.

 

Just to let you guys know, I've reverted to driver 314.22. The beta wasn't very stable while running Starcraft II.

 

MSI Kombustor pushes the absolute limits and I'd say yest it's normal.

 

Well games can actually be worse as the nvidia drivers do throttle in furmark on purpose.

 

I read your guide on the NP9150 with the 680M here
http://forum.notebookreview.com/sag...clevo-p150em-review-lots-680m-benchmarks.html

It looks like your temperatures running stock settings did not go above 85C. When I ran test 1 on Kombustor with +135mhz, the card throttled.

One more question, I noticed that if the temperature hits 90C the clock speed on the GPU will move down from 719mhz and move up once the temperature cools down. However, in some cases, the clock speed will halve and stay that way until I restart. Is that normal?

 

Sorry, I don't quite understand what you mean here. Can you clarify?

 

Furmark is treated as a power parasite and the cards don't go full bore with it.

The stock bios cannot handle +135mhz.

 

Thanks for the clarification.

I finally got a high demand game, Crysis 3, yesterday night. I put all the graphics on max except for AA. I get between 20-30fps, which I'm happy with, but the GPU hits 90C consistently. Is this normal?

 

Crysis 3 is the most demanding title I have found for the 680M so far so will see the highest temperatures, 90C if it is your max is just about OK but no higher than that.