Lowering the costs for EU (?)

My M860ETU is going to die after 3 years.
Got 3 green lock screens. Need to bake VC to fix it, but I'm coward. I have sensative data and want to sync it first, before total NB's death.

Anyways... I want to buy a new NB.
But hell, it's all so expensive with these Delivery + VAT into Europe; and Europe's resellers are total sharks with prices above the sky (Delivery+VAT from US/CA costs less).

So, I'm gonna to pull old trick again: ordering barebone (body+mb+vc) from rjt (I think they are only one, who can give me such choise, right?), so it will lower transport+vat costs and to buy rest parts (hdd+ram+cpu) from e-bay and local market.

I have three questions for experienced people, as in result:
1) ATi 6990m + 2760qm is ok with heating in P150? Because I have 260m+QX9300 and it's real hell here when I'm gaming even with coolerpad (+90c).
2) Or is it better to take P170 with these VC+CPU from above to lower the heating stress?
3) Has anyone tried 2760QM QS? Prices looks good. People who bought QS from Q9000-9300 series had no issues at all, afaik.

P.s. not interested in warranty, because EU market over expensive, and sending NB here and back over the ocean is extremelly expensive. Just need basic 1 year w., in case if it will be totally crapped out / not properly tested before shipping.

 

Hi!

I m french and i checked prices as well in europe, and it's clearly more expensive as you said ^^

I just wanted to ask you where did you search and what's your final price?

The cheapest i ve seen was in Germany. I don't know where you're from, but maybe looking at Deviltech or Nexoc would be interesting. I saw what you want around 1500euros...shipping out. And other thing, if you buy something there in US and bring it in Europe, you could pay the tax fees at the border...like 20% of US price...maybe.

Otherwise, as i know, the P150 keep everything cool in the box. If you take the high end CPU, maybe it will be different, but otherwise...

The basics I7 cores are good enough for 90% of us...if you re working with CAD or something else like that, maybe a better CPU is needed if you have $ for...

Good luck!

 

atleast you have local resellers there's nothing in New Zealand, had to order from Australia

 

i paid 1190 eur for my config from nexoc. It includes shipping. Only had to buy my ssd separate and 4gb more ram.

 

When I got my laptops, it was 100 euro cheaper than in US including shipping. That's because I bought the laptop on my company and I didn't have to pay VAT. I only had to send it once in for warranty due to a bad pixel and the reseller was kind enough to do it all on their expense.

 

Body+ATi6990m+mb ~ 1054$ (rjtech)
Delivery+VAT(20%) ~ 130$+240$
--- It's for P150, while P170 will be something +65$ more.

CPU 2760QM ~ 338$ (shipping free, no VAT, cuz from UK)
RAM+HDD dunno, just pick anything from city\country stores, because prices are cheaper, then in a configurators on sites.

They are not alowing to have barebone config, and parts which they are putting inside are extremely expensive.
Deviltech gives me the same config, around 1800Eur + ~100E for delivery. Outrages.

By local I mean whole Europe. But, yes, there is one Eurocome seller, but his configs on the exit areound 2700$ and there is warranty 2 years.

Will check nexoc, thnx. Never herd, or i was not able to understand their internal model row for clevo =)

Oh that sneaky little !

 

How u made them to send it to u without HDD and with HDD caddy instead of Optical Drive? I don't see any option on their config.

Anyway 6990+2760 alone makes 1372Eur on their config.
Have no idea how u was able to do it on 1190E

 

Try MYSN. Their prices are the best in the EU. Support and warranty service is top notch. You can get a P150HM with 1080p Matte/Glare+2760qm+6990+500GB HD+8GB 1333mhz... for 1541€.
I dont think you can beat that by ordering from the US and taking the trouble to buy some parts yourself. You will have no warranty service if something brakes too unless youre willing to ship the laptop to US and back and pay shipping+customs which isnt cheap and basically defeats the purpose and takes alot of time and effort, any qs stuff wont have warranty and is a gamble and you have to diagnose what went wrong yourself.
Here with MYSN youve got 2 years warranty (or more) and if something goes wrong you can be sure theyll fix it.

 

And dont worry about cooling, its superb, the laptop in my sig idles at around 40C on stock paste (CPU and GPU) and neither ever got over 75C yet. Im not even going to bother trying to repaste.

 

When I ordered my P170HM I checked all shops in Europe.. in the end I ordered it in the US (MALIBAL) because even with shipping + VAT it was like 300€ cheaper than anywhere in Europe.

+ you don't pay custom duty on computers.

 

That varies from country to country. We have to pay 20% tax and some processing fees. The shipping is also not cheap from the US. Imo its not worth it even if you save a small ammount, but with MYSN prices as they are i doubt you could save anything.

 

The same config from Malibal (but with 1 year warranty as they charge extra for 2 years and its basically useless anyway if youre ordering from the US) runs you 1273€ without shipping. Add around 70€ if theyre willing to use the cheapest shipping and 20% tax on all that and you get to around 1500€. How is that worth it again?

 

I've did some rough calculations here:


Looks like Nexoc is the best choice for EU, if they have no problems with crazy price on delivery.

CZ looks like not following this idea.
Bought M860TU in 2009 from US -- 20%VAT paid to get it from the goverment.

 

Id choose either Nexoc or MYSN then. Nexoc is cheapest but im not sure how their service is or how much shipping they charge. Do some more research if you decide to go with them.

 

According to b0b1man shipping include.
But I doubt, I mean it can be true for DE, but for the rest EU they should charge for sure.

 

that's cheap, where did you get it, the qbuild quality is good?

I bought a mythlogic clevow150 with GT555 cost me somewhere 1300+300 shipping + 306 VAT(all in euro, from US to Italy) I almost peed my pants...

 

Yes you do, at least in EU if it comes from outside EU...

 

@Cafein: no you dont.
VAT is not custom duty. Yes you pay 20% VAT (if you are unlucky ;D) but you don't pay any custom duty for computers that get shipped from outside the EU.

Still ordering from the US is cheaper than ordering from mysn.de.
Malibal price: 1400€
mysn.de price: 1900€

Shipping from the US = ~50€ (with discount from malibal)
Shipping from germany = ~40€

malibal: 1400 + 280 (VAT) + 50 = 1730€
mysn: 1900 + 40 = 1940€

200€ price difference.. and Malibal includes a laptop bag + way more customizing.

 

I have no idea how you guys end up at those prices:
My MySN Configuration with VAT: 2420 euro
My Malibal Configuration with VAT: 2610 euro (including discounts)
(note these are the exact same configurations! no shipping or any other extra costs - we're talking about the P170HM3 with 580M)

Of course I could subtract the option with EU service from Malibal's Config in which case the price would drop down to 2381 euro (including discount).

Either way, since I would buy my laptop on my company, I am forced to buy from the EU since it's much easier for legal and accounting purposes.

 

@zakazak
Just stop making up stuff. We checked the prices and did the calculations, buying a Clevo from the US just isnt cheaper and can give you alot of potential headaches if you ever need that warranty service.
You always pay tax (vat) at import which is around 20% in the EU with slight differences from country to country, period. Some countries also have duties on electronics again depends on the country. Theres also processing fees.
Imo you made a mistake yourself and refuse to admit it. Id only consider buying a laptop from the US if it was considerably cheaper and had some sort of global warranty so you can get service in your country (like Asus and AW) which is clearly not the case with Clevo.

 

This is true, 23% for FIN.

Customs duty is a different thing. It is not applied to computers, digital cameras or cosmetics. Try importing clothes from US and they'll add extra 12% customs duty and then calculate VAT from that amount. Most imported goods are subject to customs duty.

Got friends in the US or travelling there? Have them bring one laptop over. Or plan a holiday trip there for yourself. Just ditch the box and say it's used...

 

@heavencry: I didn't make a mistake myself. You seem to calculate wrong.. maybe get a real currency converter. Maybe you are the one who made a mistake by buying from mysn.de (btw, you forgot the 120Hz display in your build? :/)
I never said you don't have to pay VAT inside the EU.. I said custom duty.. and custom duty isn't VAT.

Btw my calculations are without the EU warranty from Malibal. With a 200€ price difference I could send the Malibal back twice for warranty. So why would I buy the EU warranty (which is the same coverage as the standard warranty just with free EU shipping). So far I never had to send back any laptop for warranty anyway. And if it's about little parts (e.g. a HDD) then shipping costs are very low anyway.

Maybe it also depends on the built.
When I calculated it yesterday I made the same built as in my signature. Well actually I think the exact same built isn't even possible with mysn.de as they don't offer as much customizing as malibal/xoticpc/etc do.

@KLF: Exactly.. if you are smart then you will find a way to prevent paying VAT ;D

 

We've got 25% in Denmark..

What that basically means is that ordering outside from the EU makes it a death sentence for my cash.

 

Youre just showing further ignorance.

I never said customs duty, i just calculated the 20% tax which you have to pay at import. Though customs duty does apply in some countries. For instance just recently we had to pay an additional 25% customs duty for anything with an integrated battery and our customs considered some laptops (like the M14x) as machines with non-removable batteries and charged the extra 25%. Some countries also charge customs for electronics, but again, for the purposes of my calculations i only took the 20% vat.

I also dont agree with you stating you could send the laptop back for repair twice and not loose money on it. The cheapest quote from our post for sending a up to 5kg package fully insured to the US costs 87€. The cheapest back is USPS if the package is up to 10lb its 57$ + insurance which depends on value. Its also time consuming and dealing with customs (at least with ours) to proove it was sent for repair so you dont have to pay VAT again is tedious (they sometimes still charge people VAT again if theyre not careful to have enough documentation).
The Malibal EU warranty says "serviced in EU" so its not added money for shipping but to have it serviced here which also means faster service and less trouble.

There is NO 3D 120 Hz screen option for the P150HM, period. Even if it were an option (or if i had the P170HM) id never consider getting it as imo its a gimmick and a waste of money and really cuts performance using it for the few titles that even support it.
The screen i got in my P150HM from MYSN is actually the AUO Matte 95% gamut version - they offer either the glossy or matte for no extra charge. Malibal charges extra for anything other than the stock glossy display. Furthermore i ordered my laptop with a 485m (which costed less than a 6990 at the time) and was given a 580m. I also had them check for any pixel defects free of charge and they installed an Intel 6300 wifi per my request which otherwise isnt on their configurator so theyre very flexible when it comes to such things, you just need to ask.
I got my config for 1662€ shipped (i upgraded the ram myself for 89€ extra). It would have been even 80€ less if i hadnt ordered the Roccat edition. The same config would run me 2818$ (2243€ at Malibal without any shipping or VAT.

Now lets do the calculation for what the OP wants from MYSN and equivalent from Malibal:

XMG P501 PRO Gaming Notebook 39,6cm (15.6")
• 39,6cm (15.6") Full-HD (1920*1080) Non-Glare
• AMD Radeon HD 6990M 2048 MB GDDR5
• Intel Core i7-2760QM - 2,40 - 3,50GHz 6MB
• 8GB (2x4096) SO-DIMM DDR3 RAM 1333MHz
• 500GB SATA-II 7200U/Min Seagate Momentus 7200.4 (ST9500420AS)
• DVD SATA Multinorm Brenner
• Intel Centrino Wireless-N 1030 (inkl. Bluetooth)
• Basis-Garantie: 24M. Pickup&Return | 6M. Sofort-Reparatur -DE
• ohne Betriebssystem
• Microsoft Office 2010 Starter (nur bei Bestellung und Vorinstallation von Windows 7)
• Tastatur DEUTSCH
• Pixelfehlertest
Shipping 35,00€
1.605,00 €

Lotus P150HM (P150HM)
Customizations:
Promotions: $100 OFF Configurations Over $1500
Display: 15.6" 1920 x 1080 FHD LED AUO B156HW01 V.4 95% NTSC Matte Display
$95.00
Display Upgrades: A+ Grade Panel With 45 Day Perfect Pixel Warranty
$75.00
Processor: Intel® Core™ i7-2760QM, 6MB L3 Cache, 2.4-3.5GHz
$160.00
Memory: (8GB) 8192MB, PC3-10660/1333MHz DDR3 - 2 SO-DIMM

Graphics Card: AMD® Radeon HD 6990M 2GB GDDR5
$145.00
Hard Drive: 500GB 7200rpm 2.5" SATA 300
Optical Drive Bay: 8X Multi DVD+/-R/RW RAM Dual-Layer Drive
Operating System: None
Wireless: Internal 802.11B/G/N LAN and Bluetooth Card
Cooling: Stock OEM Thermal Compound, CPU & GPU
Keyboard: English: US & Canada
Power Cord: Europe
$9.00
Branding: MALIBAL
Build Time: 5-7 Business Days (Estimated Time)
Warranty: 2 Year Ltd. Labor and 2 Year Parts Warranty with 24/7 Support (EU)
$330.00
Extras: Standard Black Carrying Case
$2,133.00

Currently:
2133$ = 1698€

This is without even any shippin and VAT.

Even if you make a lesser configuration with the stock screen, no pixel warranty and the stock USA 1 year warranty it comes to this:

Lotus P150HM (P150HM)
Customizations:
Promotions: $100 OFF Configurations Over $1500
Display: 15.6" 1920 x 1080 FHD LED Backlit Glossy Display
Processor: Intel® Core™ i7-2760QM, 6MB L3 Cache, 2.4-3.5GHz
$160.00
Memory: (8GB) 8192MB, PC3-10660/1333MHz DDR3 - 2 SO-DIMM
Graphics Card: AMD® Radeon HD 6990M 2GB GDDR5
$145.00
Hard Drive: 500GB 7200rpm 2.5" SATA 300
Optical Drive Bay: 8X Multi DVD+/-R/RW RAM Dual-Layer Drive
Operating System: None
Wireless: Internal 802.11B/G/N LAN and Bluetooth Card
Cooling: Stock OEM Thermal Compound, CPU & GPU
Keyboard: English: US & Canada
Power Cord: Europe
$9.00
Branding: MALIBAL
Build Time: 5-7 Business Days (Estimated Time)
Warranty: LIFETIME Ltd. Labor and 1 Year Parts Warranty with 24/7 Support (USA)
Extras: Standard Black Carrying Case
$1,633.00

Currently:
1633$ = 1300€

Add shipping (50€+) and VAT (260€ and youre at 1610€+ saving nothing and getting much less for your buck.

How again would ordering from Malibal be any cheaper or better?
If you keep stating something at least do your homework and back it up properly.

 

Customizations:
Display: 17.3" 1920 x 1080 FHD LED Backlit 120Hz 3D 72% NTSC Matte Display $135.00
Processor: Intel® Core™ i7-2760QM, 6MB L3 Cache, 2.4-3.5GHz $160.00
Memory: (8GB) 8192MB, PC3-10660/1333MHz DDR3 - 2 SO-DIMM
Graphics Card: NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 560M 1.5GB GDDR5
Hard Drive: 120GB Intel® (510) SATA III 6Gb/s SSD2 Drive $260.00
Optical Drive Bay: 8X Multi DVD+/-R/RW RAM Dual-Layer Drive
Operating System: None
Wireless: Internal 802.11B/G/N LAN and Bluetooth Card
Cooling: Stock OEM Thermal Compound, CPU & GPU
Keyboard: English: US & Canada
Power Cord: US & Canada
Branding: MALIBAL
Build Time: 5-7 Business Days (Estimated Time)
Warranty: LIFETIME Ltd. Labor and 1 Year Parts Warranty with 24/7 Support (USA)
Keyboard: German 50$
Power Cord: EU 9$
Extras: Standard Black Carrying Case
= 1983$
Promotions: $100 OFF Configurations Over $1500
= 1883$ (back when I ordered it was 125$ of maybe even 150$ ?)
Promotions: -57,72$ Cash discount = 1808,56$
= 1420€


XMG P701 PRO Gaming Notebook 43,9cm (17.3")
• 43,9cm (17.3") Full-HD (1920*1080) NonGlare 3D,120Hz,3D-Brille NUR GTX580M
• NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560M 1536MB GDDR5
• Intel Core i7-2760QM - 2,40 - 3,50GHz 6MB
• 8GB (2x4096) SO-DIMM DDR3 RAM 1333MHz
• 120GB SATA-III SSD Intel 510 Series (SSDSC2MH120A2)
• DVD SATA Multinorm Brenner
• Intel Centrino Wireless-N 1030 (inkl. Bluetooth)
• Basis-Garantie: 24M. Pickup&Return | 6M. Sofort-Reparatur -DE
• ohne Betriebssystem
• Microsoft Office 2010 Starter (nur bei Bestellung und Vorinstallation von Windows 7)
• Tastatur DEUTSCH
= 1884€
+ Paying price (ranges between 35€ and 63€.. lets take 45€
= 1929€

Malibal: 1420€ + 20% VAT (if you are unlucky) = 1704€
vs
Mysn: 1929€

Yes I can send the laptop to the US for warranty twice for that amount of price difference. But no, I won't even send it back once anyway.

Should mention that the mysn.de built actually isn't possible. The 120Hz screen is on mysn.de only possible when you get the GTX 580. Which is 479€ @mysn.de and on Malibal the GTX 580 = 373€. Just like every other extra feature is more expensive on mysn.de.
So ordering from the US isn't just cheaper.. it will also give you more ways to customize your order.
I didn't check the shipping price right now. Back then I paid like 50€ shipping from the US (discount ftw). Mysn.de wasn't really cheaper.

Ordering computers/laptops from the US was always cheaper than within Europe. Even 4 years ago when I ordered the Asus G50vt-A1 I paid a lot less money. Not to mention that often the same laptop/hardware isn't even available in Europe.

Now I wasted 15 mins writing this post. I feel like I try to put a Big Mac into a CD-Drive..

 

Even if you are looking at what you configured, youre again getting less with Malibal, thats why it comes out cheaper.
First youre choosing the lesser gamut 3D screen which is 75$ less. I cant claim with certainty MYSN is using the higher gamut ones, but neither do you and it would be more reasonable to assume they do considering their price and the fact they already use the higher gamut non-3D ones. Second you didnt get a pixel warranty, which is another 75$. And third youre getting shorter warranty with the shipping costs and problems on your shoulders. To get equal warranty its 330$ extra so again it comes out more expensive.

And with MYSN thats not paying price its shipping. It depends on the payment option. Regular shipping is 35€. If you decide to go for payment at delivery its 52€.

I really couldnt care less about a 3D screen, running 3D even a 580M barely manages decent framerates, i cant imagine using a 560M for it.

As our saying goes; Im not rich enough to buy cheap.

Besides this is completely irrelevant.
The OP is looking for the P150HM configuration above where ordering from US would clearly just be stupid.



Its clear youre just stubbornly trying to prove your right. Well im telling you youre WRONG.

 

You are funny

Since you won't comment on anything else anymore I guess I already proofed most of the stuff and you accept the fact that ordering from the US is cheaper. To also proof that your last few arguments are wrong I'll go ahead and waste another few mins:

I don't need the 330$ warranty. I think I said it twice already, here a 3rd time:
for the amount of price difference I can pay 2 times a shipping back to the US. And you have warranty for the US. They just don't cover the shipping. + I never had to send a laptop back yet anyway. So no thanks to the warranty. I'd rather save 330$ (and in the very unlikely case of a broken gfx/motherboard send it back once and still save money)

Pixelwarranty: You are right, I didn't choose one. And again.. I don't care. 5 laptops, 2 screen, 1 TV. Never had to worry about dead pixels. Guess what, my P170HM doesn't have one either. If I remember right Malibal also offered a cheaper Pixelwarranty (for like 20$) as I was from the EU (I contacted them). They would check for dead pixels before even sending.

I don't care about the 3D either. It's the 120Hz which I cared about.

That saying must be the attitude towards life for every apple/mac user. I wonder why you didn't buy one. It's more expensive but offers less.


@edit: Ye I got the shipping/payment price wrong. So it's 20€ less for mysn.de. Still 200€ more expensive.

 

For the laptop the OP is looking for its not cheaper even with the lesser config.
As i said its irrelevant what your config costs for the purpose of what the OP is asking, but i will humor you a bit more.

You still have only 1 year warranty even if you neglect the shipping costs. Two years is still 79$ extra, the screen is still the lesser gamut one for 65$ less so add 144$.
The pixel warranty is just luck of the draw. Ive had stuck pixels on three laptops (first two didnt have a pixel warranty and i beat myself over it, though i managed to massage a stuck pixel out of the D900F and i got a replacement for the G73JH that had the pixel warranty).

If its not for 3D what do you hope to gain from the 120 Hz screen?
Even if you believe the recent studies claiming we can see up to 100 FPS, that only applies to sharp images such as gaming, where with the details crancked up modern games will never perform good enough for you to reap the benefits of having a 120 Hz over a 60 Hz screen (especially not with your 560M).

That saying means, id rather spend a bit more now to make sure i dont have to pay even more later - such as paying for screen replacements, shipping or repair service once your warranty has run out on you.

 

I agree.. I never looked at the OP's built.. but it will be generally cheaper as well. Cause you don't need the 330$ warranty (as described 3 times already) and several other reasons. And didn't he also ask for a P170 build? But ye.. it would be a few more $ to get a 2 year warranty. Which I won't care about anyway. In 10 years the only warranty case I ever had with a laptop was a broke HDD which was worth nothing.

No need for more gamut but 120Hz if you want to do gaming with that laptop. And there is a noticeable difference between 60Hz and 120Hz. In every game I played so far.

Again.. its 20% (or smth like that) for EU pixel warranty. Just ask Malibal nicely and I'm sure they can do some nice deal for you (atleast they did for me).

 

Did you even read my post above? Even with the standard 1 year US warranty and the lesser config the P150HM from Malibal is not cheaper.

 

Ye I read yours but it seems like you never read mine. Else you would know that I said I won't give an instructions on VAT fraud.. as well as you would already know that ordering from the US is cheaper:

Malibal:
Customizations:
Promotions: $100 OFF Configurations Over $1500
Display: 15.6" 1920 x 1080 FHD LED Backlit Matte Display
Processor: Intel® Core™ i7-2760QM, 6MB L3 Cache, 2.4-3.5GHz $160.00
Memory: (8GB) 8192MB, PC3-10660/1333MHz DDR3 - 2 SO-DIMM
Graphics Card: AMD® Radeon HD 6990M 2GB GDDR5 $145.00
Hard Drive: 500GB 7200rpm 2.5" SATA 300
Optical Drive Bay: 8X Multi DVD+/-R/RW RAM Dual-Layer Drive
Operating System: None
Wireless: Internal 802.11B/G/N LAN and Bluetooth Card
Cooling: Stock OEM Thermal Compound, CPU & GPU
Keyboard: German $50.00
Power Cord: EU 9$
Branding: MALIBAL
Build Time: 5-7 Business Days (Estimated Time)
Warranty: LIFETIME Ltd. Labor and 1 Year Parts Warranty with 24/7 Support (USA)
Extras: Standard Black Carrying Case
1661$ - 100$ discount = 1561$ = 1226€ + 50€ Shipping = 1276€

XMG P501 PRO Gaming Notebook 39,6cm (15.6")
• 39,6cm (15.6") Full-HD (1920*1080) Non-Glare
• AMD Radeon HD 6990M 2048 MB GDDR5
• Intel Core i7-2760QM - 2,40 - 3,50GHz 6MB
• 8GB (2x4096) SO-DIMM DDR3 RAM 1333MHz
• 500GB SATA-II 7200U/Min Seagate Momentus 7200.4 (ST9500420AS)
• DVD SATA Multinorm Brenner
• Intel Centrino Wireless-N 1030 (inkl. Bluetooth)
• Basis-Garantie: 24M. Pickup&Return | 6M. Sofort-Reparatur -DE
• ohne Betriebssystem
• Microsoft Office 2010 Starter (nur bei Bestellung und Vorinstallation von Windows 7)
• Tastatur DEUTSCH
• Pixelfehlertest
+ 14€ for wlan
Shipping 35,00€
1.619,00 €

US (Malibal): 1276€ + 20VAT = 1531€
vs
EU (mysn): 1619€

Ye you really are done here

Altough I have to admit that with this built the EU order wouldn't be that much more expensive. With malibal pixel warranty its about 50€ price difference. If you country has a higher VAT (and in case you have to pay the VAT) it would be the same. Except that malibal/xoticpc offer more customization + extras (another AC-Adapter,battery,whatever) will be cheaper. If you are afraid of a warranty case (I wouldn't be) than mysn.de is the way to go (for the P150HM built.. for the P170 order from malibal).

Else the US order would still be cheaper.

 

Actually the Malibal configuration is slightly more, cause in your case it only has one year of warranty. So you need to add an extra 75 euro for a two year warranty including VAT. At which point the difference becomes minimal.

Anyway, my plan for this spring/summer is to buy a barebone and get some of the components separately. If you buy barebones, companies such as MySn or Nexoc have special prices.

 

Ye but as I said.. I wouldn't care about the warranty. If you do, then the P150 would be bought from mysn.de

Hmm would that be cheaper? to buy everything separately and build it together by yourself?

 

How to do so? I wish to build my barebone again, same as I've did with M860TU, but neither of them are responding to me.

 

Please be careful about posting technical and actionable information about getting around paying VAT.

I had to delete the suggestive portions of certain posts.

 

I understand, in some cases you should just ask the reseller for a discount if you want special features. In my case they were always friendly here in the EU.

 

It is cheaper because they will give you special discount prices. All of these resellers have the option to be resellers themselves for barebones, in which case they will have a special offer for companies that want to buy barebones. I am not sure if the same works for individuals, but when I had the offer from different companies, it was about 100 euros cheaper than on their website.

 

Simple. Didnt pay VAT. And for God's sake - never order using their site. I just emailed Klaus Heider personally, he's the sales manager. Told him what i want, asked all the questions i had. All in the same day, i ordered after the 11-th email. He answers super fast.

Laptop arrived JUST HOW I WANTED, thermal paste was applied and the rest of it was sent too in the tube. Hdd caddy was not installed, they sent me the optical drive plastic piece too so if i buy myself one, i can install it.

Laptop was perfectly packed, worked out of the box after i installed win7.

Im one happy customer. Removed all logo stickers. Like it even more now. Been using it for the past 3 months.

 

That's how you should do it !

 

Looks like nexoc.de died. Thats probably the answer why they are not answering me at all.

 

Strange....check back tomorrow, maybe they are having problems with their internet site. Cant open it too....

 

Works now for me...

 

Yep it's up now and everyone at vacation till 16-th.
There is someone replacing them, who is not in contact, but got no response from him yet.

 

Got a bill and the answer from nexoc.
Zero reaction on my comments and questions. Just billed the default selection and throw it in the face.

Germans are machine like, zero human factor involved

 

Check it with MySN, they don't get any more human

 

I'm confused with Nexoc now.

They have only PC-1333 RAM in stocks.

- Do you have PC-1600 is stocks or only PC-1333?
- We´ve only have PC1333 and not PC1600 sorry because that don´t work into the barebone.

Really, PC1600 is not working in P150? How it's people have here P150 with PC1600 then?

 

Theres a member running 1866 MHz Hyperx PnP and as you can see im running 1600 MHz without problems. Official Clevo specification states up to 1600 MHz.
I cant say how Nexoc works, maby you got a bad rep whos not well informed or they just have 1333 MHz only in stock and will state that anything above wont work as an excuse.

 

So your memories are working at 1600 MHz ? Or they are 1600 MHz but working at 1333 MHz. My memories are also 1600 MHz, but they work at 1066 for obvious reasons.

 

So is there any benefit to hunt down for 1600? Or 2760QM working fine with 1333 without any downside?

Intel says DDR3-1066/1333/1600.
But one thing to support something, and another to work 100% as best as it can.

 

They work at 1600 MHz. Thats officially supported on the P150HM mobo with the right CPUs anyway so theres no reason for it not to work. The member that used 1866 MHz also has them working at that speed but contributes it to the auto overclocking of the PnP ram.

The gain is a few % at the most with certain tasks so not noticable really from what people have tested and is thus probably not worth spending extra on the 1600 MHz over 1333 MHz.
I just got it cheap so why not go for that bit of extra juice. Looks nice when you pop open the back and see the ram with its own heatsinks if nothing else .