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    M570TU firewire chipset

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by kazakore, Jan 14, 2009.

  1. kazakore

    kazakore Notebook Consultant

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    Can anybody confirm what chipset has been used for the firewire on the Clevo M570TU? Am tempted to buy one an audio production/live laptop but hear most chipsets still have issues with audio interfaces (clicks and popping) and is best to try and track down the TI chipset if you can (which I know the D901C uses, or did.)

    Thanks in advance.
     
  2. kaltmond

    kaltmond Clepple

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    JMB380 from JMicron, just as bad as ricoh or worse.
     
  3. kazakore

    kazakore Notebook Consultant

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    Not what I was hoping to hear :(


    Seems if I am going to get a powerful laptop for music production is HAS to be the D901C then. Seems a bit overkill and is quite a lot more expensive though...


    Why wont people sort out their firewire issues?! It's been going on for years now. You would of thought there would be an attempt to address the matter. :mad:
     
  4. kazakore

    kazakore Notebook Consultant

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    Apparently you're actually confused with the M860TU


    Know there was problems with early Via but think they sorted it out...
     
  5. kaltmond

    kaltmond Clepple

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    According to Service Manual 86TU and 57TU use both JMicron chip, 57RU uses VIA VT6311S.
     
  6. kazakore

    kazakore Notebook Consultant

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    Thanks. I forgot I had found the service manuals for Sager laptops last time I was looking and could probably of had a hunt and found out myself. Always good to know there are kind people out there willing to lend a hand :)
     
  7. wijnoostmuziek

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    Whichever you buy, don't buy a 860tu for audio.
    It will not even playback through a FF800 or a desktop konnekt 6.
     
  8. kazakore

    kazakore Notebook Consultant

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    So you don't think both the 860TU and 570Tu use the same chipset? The guy from ADK swears the 570TU is Via.

    Mmm RME FF800 :) Either that or RME HDSPe ExpressCard with Multiface II will likely be my card of choice. Happy with my old PCI HDSP9632 in my desktop so likely to stick with RME, even though they refuse to abide to M$ and UAA.

    FF800 has mic inputs, which makes me lean that way, which makes me need a decent FF chipset.
     
  9. kazakore

    kazakore Notebook Consultant

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    Have you tried the 570TU with the FF800? According to the service manual it uses the same chipset for firewire, which is one of the worst on the market. According to Scott from ADK, who has been selling audio laptops based on Sagers for many years, their information is often not as correct as it could be though...
     
  10. Shyster1

    Shyster1 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Probably because, at least according to this Wikipedia article, _Apple's initial insistence on a high per-user royalty and higher component costs meant that it simply was not sufficiently widely adopted and that there was therefore insufficient market pressure for the various users to conform to a single industry standard.
     
  11. wijnoostmuziek

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    No, I tried only the 860 tu; doesn't work.
    I know Scott is selling the 570 for audio and if you check the website it says Via chipset for firewire. And he knows what he is doing!
     
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    wijnoostmuziek Notebook Geek

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    Neil@Kobalt Company Representative

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    Just been having this discussion on another forum :) Just to confirm, the Firewire on the 570TU is jmicron JMB380 - I have a feeling the 570RU was VIA, not positive though.
     
  14. wijnoostmuziek

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    Hi Neil,

    Could you give me a link? I know Scott is selling 570 for audio with VIA firewire chipsets and I trust him.
     
  15. kazakore

    kazakore Notebook Consultant

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    I have been talking to Scott on KVRAudio and I believe he now has one on order and after conforming it is now Jmicron he has said he will remove it from his site. He has been selling that computer since it was based on the RU board, which was Via, and much never of noticed that they changed the chipset when they revised it to the TU.
     
  16. Neil@Kobalt

    Neil@Kobalt Company Representative

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    Think this has been resolved (as kazakore just posted), I only have this sort of imformation in print in documents that are confidential e.g. the service manual is not for the public domain etc. To be honest I think that the D901C is a better choice for audio work over the 570TU anyway - in my pre-Kobalt career I was a sound engineer for 4 years and so have quite a lot of experience in this field. Have to say I left just as things were getting interesting :mad: - digital boards etc!
     
  17. wijnoostmuziek

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    So you still miss the music?

    You have a point with the D901C , but it's a bit overdone for mixing/mastering about 8 tracks I think.

    And it got a bit out of hand, sorry to all !!!
    but most to kazakore
     
  18. Neil@Kobalt

    Neil@Kobalt Company Representative

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    Yup, possibly a bit over the top for that sort of work but if you are a 1 man studio and want something for portable recording then it's pretty much unbeatable.

    I do miss the music :cry: 90% of what I did was live and not studio so it was a little like producing an album every gig! Although I did used to work silly hours and that takes a toll after a while and one thing I don't miss is Midas desks which weigh 2 tonnes hence the digi board comment :)
     
  19. wijnoostmuziek

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    Yes , a FF 800 is a "bit" more portable. I have done mobile recordings for a while but now I have myself a nice place where bands can reherse and I can do recordings(not pro). It's is not so stressfull as doing live(hooking it all up in just 15 minutes or something like that), just plug it all in and let them play music.
    It's all still mobile if necessary but I like it more this way.
     
  20. kazakore

    kazakore Notebook Consultant

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    Not sure how many people on here were interested in this but here is Scott's findings, as posted on KVRAudio.