M860ETU/NP8662 and QX9300 Quad Processor-AOK!

It was actually the QX9300 and Q9100 that I tried in the original M860TU and none of them worked.

 

Nice CPU score, but the GPU score should be higher, I guess. I it at stock speeds?

 

The native nVidia driver(185) seems slower than the generic Windows 7.

Everything is at stock speed at this time.

 

it seems good enough.. how much did you spend on your rig total?
is your qx9300 oem or ES?

i've configured my setting on np9280 and total came out $2500 including shipping. i suppose np8662 for my setting will go for around $1800 and i can
get qx9300 ES(E0) stepping for $430. so it will be a little cheaper than getting
np9280(plus i will be able to sell that p8600 on ebay for extra $150ish)..
i suppose all that matter to me is performance and stability.. decisions..
decisions..

 

1059 - M860ETU
40 - Wireless
52 - 320 7.2k HD
64 - 4GB RAM
500 - QX9300 (OEM)
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$1715

factor - priceless...

I could have had my rig to $1450 total if I stuck with Q9100. But boys will be boys---

The QX9300 is rock solid so far-- But I can already hear the naysayers...

 

what~~
where did you get M860ETU from?
$1500 sounds nice to me.. =)

 

I envy your QX9300

Have you tried to undervolt it? That will reduce the temperature. Post some results using orthos to stress the cpu with undervolt and stock voltages if you are planning on undervolting.

I suggest using RMclock. There are some guides here on NBR.

 

I've been too busy- I still have some computers to sell- It seems as if deals just keeps on popping up and I just have to take advantage them (well, no more, really!).

Getting back to topic- I don't know if I'm willing to underclock my QX9300 to 2.4 Ghz (read earlier post by SovietSunrise)-

My computing and gaming habit is pretty predictable- 1-3 hours, 3-4 times a week, mostly at night. The M860ETU is off most of the time, as I have other laptops for surfing and work (don't know what to do with the P-7805u right now, though).

Here are my surfing temps right now-



As you can see, it is no hotter than a P8400(but then again, the P8400 I have also reaches pretty high temps at load). It does rise to 65C when I'm playing UT3. The QX9300 does a pretty good job throttling itself down when I pause the game to take a break.

The temp in my house is at a constant 68-70F, since central AC is mostly on.

This laptop was bought for one purpose only: Play games.

So all this undervolting stuff may not apply to my gaming habits- Other people though, those that live with their favorite gaming laptop and take it everywhere maybe are obligated to do so---

BTW, I am not endorsing the use of this processor in a 15" chassis. In fact, people should wait until intel releases quads that rival dual core temps. This is a sensitive topic for many, and there are those who panic when a 25W processor such as the P9600 reaches over something they're used to (quick, underclock the sucker some more!).

 

Wow.. gpu and hdd temps are pretty low.. Are you using a notebook cooler?
Mine right now just browsing is 44 gpu and 48 hdd. (HW monitor)

 

Laptop is sitting on a metal cart table. My giant heatsink. plenty of cool air underneath. BTW, central AC just shut off and my temps is now 50C. I can hear already someone say "underclock it-"

 

I was just wondering if you mixed up underclock and undervolt. Undervolting guide

 

*sigh*

Here, more fuel to the fire-

Central AC off -
Room temp 78-80F
Test Run: 20mins, 19 secs (and Orthos at 9 priority is still running, while UT3 is playing in windowed mode)



81 celsius/177 fahrenheit and holding-

Why we even bother discussing this is really pointless--- I'm almost tempted to leave the test running overnight.

By the way, I didn't use Prime95 because it kept locking the OS within minutes. So maybe that is the true test. All four cores at full bore sustained would probably bring the system to its knees.

QX9300 is hot. That's all there is to it.

 

Keep the AC on and get yourself a Zalman before you set the house on fire lol :laugh:

 

Man having a GTX 260M and a quad core at 2.53 ghz in a 15'4 chassis is just plain awesome But undervolting your cpu might be really beneficial. Doesn't costs you any performance anyway. I'm really curious to see if it would do a big difference in temps.

 

Yeah, but it's not gonna make you go out there and buy a QX9300!!!

Once I figure out the ideal voltage, I'll do it---

By the way, the test is still running(and I'm playing UT3), the temp just went down to 76C.

 

That's why. The CPU temps should never fall by that much during an Orthos test.

A stress test is only completely credible when you dedicate your system to Orthos. Adding unnecessary variables, especially demanding ones such as UT3, will skew the accuracy your final results.

Remember that the GPU shares the heatsink and fan with the CPU, and if this test is to be passed off as a CPU only stress test, then the GPU must be at idle for the duration of the test.

From your efforts since the beginning of this thread, we now know that the QX9300 is hot in the M860TU as expected despite invalid test procedures, and I as well as everyone else viewing this thread thanks you sincerely for it. I am not trying to discourage you nor am I asking you to proceed any further as you have already proven that the QX9300 is a portable sun. But if you wish to publish a well conducted test that does not sway near the quality of notebookcheck.com tests, then by all means pursue that goal.

The main question that remains for the few of us demanding a precision test is what is the hottest temperature the QX9300 will see under full load in X conditions. This is especially important as it helps gauge the level of variance in each M860TU with a QX9300 so that we know how much temperature leeway we would have left before the CPU hits TJMax. If the temperature deviation is narrow, than that means that we would have to carefully monitor our systems when running intense software as that fan does suck in a large amount of air and dust. From here on you can see where I am getting at.

 

I managed to pull the voltages down to 1.050v constant from 6x to 9.5 I think my QX9300 is VID locked to 1.050v lowest. oddly at 9.5x it's still stable @1.050v also as confirmed by coretemp. but i'm using CPUgenie not RMClock.
I have tested my HP 8730W prime95 for 12hrs. temp is 70, room ambient is 30C

but what is weird is that my chip default VID @6x is already already 1.050v and the default VID is [email protected]

coretemp and cpuz are reporting quite close. coretemp reports 1.050v constand and cpuz reports 1.067v constant for all multipliers.

 

Oh brother. None of you are going to quit until I break something. This is just as bad as "of course we can make a quad work in the 7805u" discussion. As I keep on telling everybody here- if you have to ask, yes, it's very hot- and no, you should not install it in your precious laptop, as there are better ways to cook.

I'm done testing. If anyone wants to find out the failure point of the M860ETU, you're gonna have to go out there on a limb and buy yourself a quad and see for yourselves.

 

the OP has volunteered his findings... for that we thank you.

no one is forced to give any information, let alone do any tests.

no need to criticize it any further.

if you want me to close the thread, just ask.... or report the thread and say you want it closed.

 

Yes, please close this this thread-

Thank you. My sincere apologies to anyone offended.

 

Before it is closed: Good job: k9hydr4.

 

Yeah good job, I might take on the QX9300 testing in an M860ETU combined with a GTX280m soon. However there's no way that I'll wait for the CPU to burn a hole through my desk just to see what's the highest temperature it can reach.

 

3dmark before closing the thread..?

 

Thanks a lot to Kh9hydr4. I really appreciate for all your efforts to test QX 9300 on NP8662. And honestly, it is more than enough facts from your testing for me to make decision not to buy QX9300. Now my choice between Q9000 and Q9100. I am hoping someone will have the temp test soon, before I buy one of those quad core CPU. I live in Indonesia therefore this test is really valuable for me. THX Bro

 

Also posted on the first page-

Benchmarks:

3Dmark:



Vantage:



Someone else will have to pick up the baton and run a "true" stress testing. OEM QX9300 currently available on ebay for $500. Perhaps a new thread, a simple step-by-step procedure to keep the results as objective and accurate as possible.

3DMark score taken after I updated the nVidia drivers to 185.5. Everything stock. I noticed with the generic driver from Windows 7, the score was slightly higher (11215 on 3D Mark- didnt run vantage at the time).

 

Your QX9300 scores 767 more points than my 3.06GHz T9900, predicted 3DMark score for me would be in the 13k range which is outstanding for a laptop. The only drawback for me is battery life because that laptop is my primary computer and I travel a lot with it; heat is a secondary issue. I was wondering if cutting the HSF in half so that there is no contact between the CPU and GPU part of the heatsink would help, because if there is 80c coming from one side and 80c coming from the other side, it's just going to cook the laptop.

BTW I PMed you K9hydr4

 

ok then... thread closed.

if you want it to be reopened k9hydr4, just PM me or one of the mods that are on.