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    M860TU WSXGA+ or WUXGA?!

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by Prada, Jul 31, 2008.

  1. Prada

    Prada Notebook Enthusiast

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    I've tried to get responses in other threads that were semi-related to what Im asking but I couldn't get any. I'm waiting to order because I can't make up my mind! haha

    I personally think 1920x1200 will look VERY small on a 15.4" screen, but I've read you can increase the dpi of things in Vista...and the extra screen realestate would be nice. More importantly I want it for the Matte screen...

    I don't really want the 1680x1050 since it only comes in Glossy, but I think that resolution would work much better on a 15.4" screen.


    A few questions that might help me make up my mind...

    1.) If I bought WUXGA, would it be reasonable to run it at 1680x1050?

    2.) Does the monitor's native resolution have any bearing on in-game performance if you're running at a smaller resolution in-game? For example, would running at Resolution A on WSXGA+ have better performance than running at Resolution A on WUXGA?

    Help me decide! :)
     
  2. elijahRW

    elijahRW Notebook Deity

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    I've never had a 15.4" with such a high rez. I once had a 15" that was 1024x768 :p I could see each pixel individually :p
    I think it would be quite small 1920x1200 is the main resolution for 24" monitors.
    But if you have good eyes it might be okay. If I ever had a look at one I could tell you. Just ask people that have this type of screen and see what they say about it. Some people with this type of screen will probably reply with their own opinions.
     
  3. Petrov

    Petrov Notebook Deity

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    1440x900 for my money, if it were available. For me, it's a gaming machine that I want to run next-gen games at native res (eg Crysis at V High+).

    Petrov.
     
  4. gavinh

    gavinh Notebook Evangelist

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    I love my WUXGA screen. Partially because I never got it to run at 1680x1050, so I had to get used to 1920x1200. It originally came with 120dpi text as opposed to 90dpi standard so that helped me ease into it. Then after a while it was too much bother adjusting the DPI after every driver update (5 reboots in total?) so I left at 90 and haven't turned back since.

    2. No the screen itself makes no difference if you're running at the same resolution. So running native on WSXGA should be the same as running 1680x1050 on WUXGA. Though like I said, I never managed to get that. The next step down for me was 1024x768.. =/
     
  5. Charles P. Jefferies

    Charles P. Jefferies Lead Moderator Super Moderator

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    Make sure you get the resolution you will be running at most of the time. I find WSXGA+ to be a perfect size for 15.4"; I have it on my Sager. However, I also love WUXGA. The text is smaller with WUXGA, but as noted, you can simply up the DPI to 120.

    What size and resolution screen are you using now?
     
  6. Prasad

    Prasad NBR Reviewer 1337 NBR Reviewer

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    WUXGA is just ideal on my 17". I would find it too small on 15.4" but I guess that's just me. I would say WSXGA+ being perfect for 15.4" screens. :)
     
  7. Prada

    Prada Notebook Enthusiast

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    I currently own a desktop pc and on my 19" I use 1280x1024 and play game at 1024x768.

    The only reason I want to WUXGA is because it's the only option with a Matte screen...I'm really disappointed that WSXGA+ M860TU only comes with Glossy...
     
  8. Nirvana

    Nirvana Notebook Prophet

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    what's the matter with glossy?
     
  9. Prada

    Prada Notebook Enthusiast

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    I'm just afraid I'll hate it using a Matte LCD desktop Monitor for a few years. I've always heard they get a lot of glares, and I can see being in a classroom/other bright rooms I'd get annoyed.
     
  10. gavinh

    gavinh Notebook Evangelist

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    If it's bright enough the glare/reflection won't be too noticable.

    A bright glossy screen is infinitely better than a dim matte one.
     
  11. metromike

    metromike Notebook Consultant

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    The implication that glossy screens are substantially brighter is misleading, gavinh. I think that modern matte screens are quite bright, definitely bright enough.

    I am in the same boat as you, Prada. I went for WUXGA when I preordered the NP8660 solely because it is matte. I don't want to have to deal with any matte-conversion film that you can use with a glossy screen to reduce glare -- I want an authentic matte screen. I also would prefer WSXGA+, but, it's not available without going through the time, money, and effort to replace the screen on your own once you receive the laptop.

    I work in a lab and there are fluorescent lights everywhere and my desk is situated adjacent a window, so there are bright light sources at multiple angles to my screen. Right now, I am using a nearly 5 year old PowerBook (matte was only option back then), and my colleagues all have glossy screens. They say they have adjusted to glossy over time and you eventually don't notice the glare, but I have used their computers from time to time and to me it is very distracting and hard to ignore. I have extremely sensitive eyes, though, so you might not have the same problem.

    The glossiness of the screens also varies between the different glossy screens here. A Sony Vaio CR's screen actually does a pretty good job of reducing glare while still having great colors and contrast, whereas a Dell 1420 is much more troublesome to work with. I prefer matte to either by far, but, if the NP8660's glossy screen would be on par with the Sony's display, I would go for the WSXGA+ screen. I just don't know how it is, though, and because of the environment I spend most of my time in is as described, I would rather not risk being unhappy with a glossy display.

    Hopefully this helps man. :)
     
  12. Prada

    Prada Notebook Enthusiast

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    If I do end up purchasing the WUXGA, but end up thinking everything is too small...how bad would the distortion be if I decided to run it at 1680x1050?

    Can anyone give some opinions on what they think of the quality of other Clevo Glossy screens and possibly convince me that going with Glossy will be ok? lol (I'm assuming it would be the same screen as other models, just smaller?)

    This is frustrating!!! If only there was a 1680x1050 matte :mad:
     
  13. gavinh

    gavinh Notebook Evangelist

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    My 4 year old matte is unusable under direct light or in front of a window.

    I sometimes think it's dimness hurts my eyes more than the tiny resolution.
     
  14. Shyster1

    Shyster1 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    I would agree completely with that. The matte on my 5 y.o. VAIO has gotten a bit dim and also a bit yellowed - when I set it next to my wife's 3 y.o. _HP with a glossy screen, I am utterly dismayed by how bad my screen looks by comparison.