M860TU in Canada?

Will I be able to buy the new M860TU if I live in Ontario, Canada. I don't know any Clevo retailers in Canada. Any ideas?

 

Eurocom
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=264311

 

Yup Eurocom is the only one that comes to my mind but they're really overpriced. I suggest to buy it from a different reseller like xoticpc.

 

How does it work if I buy from xoticpc? Aren't the prices shown on their website in USD?

 

Yes USD on xoticPC site.

 

Yeah, you can basically use a Canadian credit card and purchase the laptop in USD. Then you have to pay gst and/or hst once it's delivered to you. There might also be some custom fees you have to pay (i think it's about $50 but i'm not sure) but chances are you will still save 100's of dollars compared to what eurocom charges.

 

Custom Fee
Brokerage Fee (charged by delivering company for custom fees)
GST*
PST**

*GST also applies to customs & brokerages
** PST too + GST.

UPS brokerage fee is $65 on a $1500 item

 

Will I be paying the 13% tax as it is in Ontario?
Will xoticpc have the M860TU as soon as it is released?
For example, if I were to buy a $2500 laptop, I pay the 13% tax and shipping.
2500+325+shipping?

 

You will need to pay for import tax I heard. but that's all.

 

You will be hit with a fee of $300 or more for customs charges. Mine was about $320 (don't remember exact amount). It was well worth it.

 

if you have it sent by air, then you wont have to pay for brokerage fee (the 50-65dollars)

 

wow, I was thinking of buying either a Sager 8660 from xotic pc or a zepto nox, but never knew about all these extra fees...
I thought it was just convert the USD into CND and pay 13% tax (Ontario, Canada). And ofcourse the 30$ for shipping...

other than the shipping, 13% tax and the price of the laptop, what else am I paying for if I want it delivered to Toronto (either 8660 or nox a15)?

 

I'm in the same boat as you are, for the duties just contact your local broker or UPS to get an accurate quote on duties.

 

Eurocom doesn't seem overpriced.

I configured as closely as possible the M860TU at Eurocom and XoticPC and the Eurocom was cheaper. The only discrepincies being that Eurocom doesn't have a 160gb 5400rpm hard drive so I had to go for a 250gb 5400rpm one and that the carrying cases probably differ. Also, the warranty and support should be better from XoticPC.

XoticPC

Sager NP8660 (Built on Clevo M860TU) PRE ORDER Sager NP8660 (Built on Clevo M860TU) PRE ORDER $1,687.00

- 15.4" WUXGA "Matte Type" Super Clear Ultra Bright Screen (1920x1200)
- Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound
- Standard Dead Pixel Policy
- ~Intel® P8400 45nm "Montevina" Core™2 Duo 2.26GHz w/3MB L2 On-die cache - 1066MHz FSB 25 watt
- 512MB PCI-Express ATI HD3870 DDR3 DX10 (User Upgradeable) (ETA End of August)
- None Standard
- ~ 2,048MB DDR3 1066MHz Dual Channel Memory (2 SODIMMS)
- None Standard
- Standard Finish
- ~Combo 8x8x6x4x Dual Layer DVD +/-R/RW 5x DVD-RAM 24x CD-R/RW Drive w/Softwares
- ~ 160GB 5400RPM (Serial-ATA 150)
- None Standard
- None Standard
- Internal 7-in-1 Card Reader (MS/MS Pro/MS Duo/MS Pro Duo/SD/Mini-SD/MMC/RS)
- Internal Bluetooth 2.0+ EDR
- Built-in Intel® PRO/Wireless 5300 802.11 a/g/n Wi-Fi Link
- None Standard
- Built in 2.0 Megapixel Camera
- None Standard
- Sound Blaster Compatible 3D Audio - Included
- Basic Black Business Case - Included
- Smart Li-ion Battery (8-Cell)
- None Standard
- None Standard
- None Standard
- Integrated Fingerprint Reader
- None Standard
- None Standard
- None Standard - Drivers & Utility Software Only
- None Standard
- None Standard
- 3 Year Labor* 1 Year Parts Warranty Lifetime 24/7 DOMESTIC Based Toll Free Tech Support
(Year2 & 3 Labor Warranty through Xotic PC)


Eurocom

EUROCOM M860TU Montebello $1,570 USD

EUROCOM M860TU Montebello; 15.4-inch; Widescreen; WUXGA; 1920-by-1200 pixels; UltraSharp; Matte Surface $1,817
2.0 Megapixels; WebCam; internal USB interface
Integrated Fingerprint Reader for Secure Data Access and Easy Management of Passwords
8x Multi DVD +-RW/-RAM Burner; Dual-Layer; Tray-based; w/ Software
2.2GHz P8400 Intel Core 2 Duo Mobile; FSB1066; 3MB L2; 45nm; 25W $-,145
512MB GDDR3; ATi Radeon HD-3870; DX10; 16x PCIe $-,273
None - Choose from the options below
2GB; 2x 1GB; DDR3-1066; 204-pin - 2 SODIMMs $-55
None; Choose from the options below
250GB; SATA-150; 5,400rpm; 1.5Gb/s; 8MB cache; 2.5-inch $5
Standalone configuration; regular setup; single partition; single O/S
None - Choose from the options below
None - Choose from the options below
English; US & Canada
None - Choose from the options below
802.11n; up to 300Mbps; Wireless Wi-Fi; Gigabyte GN-WI06N-RH; PCIe Mini Card; 2.4 and 5GHz $86
Internal Bluetooth V2.0 + EDR module $72
None - Choose from the options below
None - Choose from the options below
8-cells Smart Li-lon Battery
120W AC Adapter; 100-240V Auto-Switching
US / Canada Power Cord
TARGUS 15.4-inch Lappac 5 Deluxe Case; Ballastic Nylon; Black; CL-55 $63

Am I missing something?

Edit: Eurocom is editing the available options, price may no longer be accurate.

 

Well, I need an operating system and Eurocom doesnt even offer Vista home basic or premium 64bit, but offer everything else which is +200 minimum. And their wireless, bluetooth and webcam is immensily overpriced.

So I asked this about 2 posts up; other than 13% tax, 30$ shipping and the price of a laptop, what else am I gonna have to pay (additinal fees that no1 seems to mention) to get a Zepto or Sager 8660 over here to Toronto?

 

Holy smokes! I was hoping to order this lappy and I'm in Toronto as well! I never knew that there was going to be so much bureaucracy about it all. How about sagers site? I have priced it out on sagernotebook.com and, although I had realized that the prices were USD, I though I would just have to pay the exchange rate and shipping. So there is also a 300 dollar(ish) duty charge as well? Is that what I'm hearing?

 

You can ask Eurocom to do price checks. Im talking to them via email at the moment to see if they can get comparable rates to xoticpc or PNB. they are taking longer than I would like to respond though.


edit: holy crap its like eurocom read my email and changed their configs lol. they now offer a P8400 and DDR-1066 just like i asked for

 

try using thefinalcost.com... that was what I was using to measure the costs. It's a lot O_O

 

Thanks for the link! Are those costs accurate?

 

ok guys I ordered:

Eurocom M860TU WSXGA+ - $1899
P8400 2.26ghz 3mb CPU - -$160
ATi Radeon HD3870 GDDR3 GPU - -$300
2GB DDR31066 - -$60

total = $1379

I got a feeling theres no wireless card in that but thats possibly ok cause i can take it out of my old laptop (ill have to check on that though).

 

Quick question: Does Eurocom honor their quotes? I just configured a M860TU for $1475 with Eurocom, but I can't buy it at the moment; so I e-mailed myself the quote. If the price increases in the future, can I still buy at the price quoted in the e-mail?

Did you choose one of the two offered cards?

 

They must be updating it right now because there is three cards offered. No i did not but I will talk to them about that tomorrow. They also told me there was a student discount, and I haven't applied that yet either.

 

Wow, they just added the Intel 5300 card. The only student discount I could find was the 5% off graduate's discount

 

Yea thats the one thanks for the URL, rep points for you. Pssh ive graduated high school so i qualify . So the price is actually $1310CA with that discount, I'm loving this purchase more every second.

 

Their site is messed up, where is the new clevo?

lol, nevermind... bad design, the 'configure' is hidden a bit.

 

Everything is fine but the cost of their operating systems, and their extras are overpriced a bit, no thermal compound listed (maybe they do it standard...) I don't know.

 

I don't know how often they edit their prices, but I configured one that came up to $1700 (ati 3870), and now $2200 (9800M GT), all the while Xotic PC is staying at $1700 (9800M GT)....

Xotic PC is a better deal unless they make some major changes ASAP.

 

i would trust xotic much more. you WILL pay less in the end ordering from them even with the little fees to get it to you in canada added on.

 

I configured two in US dollars, with Intel 5300, a P8400 2.2GHz, a 160gb 5400rpm hard drive, WUXGA, 2gb 1066MHz, no operating system, and a 9800m GT. The only difference is the Eurocom was configured with a TSB212 backpack and the XoticPC was configured with a TSB312 one. The XoticPC came to $1899.26 (including cash discount) and $1893 from Eurocom. With such a small difference the XoticPC wins for the warranty and service.

However when configured my options (WUXGA, 3870, 2gb 1333MHz, nothing extra) the Eurocom total is $1399, while the minumum price (with WUXGA) from XoticPC is $1636.39. So it would seem you get more for less with XoticPC and less for less with Eurocom.

 

I am in the same position as you, I want this laptop but the price for the extra fee is killing me..., like I 100% need wireless card, but eurocom charge almost 100$ for it ... wtf? I am happy I already have my OS cuz them is like 200$... are you kidding me... anyways, waiting for more news about it!

Edit: by the way do you guys know what kind of custom fee i should pay if I order with Eurocom since the warehouse is located in new york? Or maybe since the company is Canadian they ship it to them and when eurocom receive it in canada they ship it to me... dunno

 

they have 2 warehouses. one in ontario i think and one in NY
one in NY is to get american sales out as fast as possible.

 

F1alcon I totally agree with you I want this laptop but all the fees add up if your ordering from the states add up quickly and all the minor upgrades (wireless card) add up quickly if you order from Canada

 

I think you guys need a reality check. go onto mycizmo.com, kobaltcomputers.co.uk or rock.co.uk and look at european prices once you convert it to your dollar.
Feel happy with your prices now?

 

My advice is to not take Eurocom prices seriously (as Gophn always suggests). We already know Intel 5300s are $29 per 1000 so there is no way Eurocom should be charging $125 for them.

Negotiate!

 

eurocom has knocked down the price now as far as i can see, still pricey though

 

If your going for the bare minimum its the best deal for any clevo M860TU at the moment.

Other than that you have to ask them to price-check or just do your best.

 

lol definitely, but still. We should be paying very similar prices to the U.S, Clevo is Taiwanese, not American Don't make it sound like its a gift having competitive prices with the U.S!!!

 

UM yes it is. Im well aware of the fact that all computer companies are actually closer to us, but we get the short end of the stick. if i could get my laptop at american retail prices here in europe, it would be a miracle.

You honestly dont think that you guys are more well off with your prices? its not a tiny difference. its up to 30% more over here in europe.

 

I"m just surprised the 860tu is heavier than an m15x.

 

eurocom changed they price again ... the memory is not 1066 base but they keeped the price of the 1333... no -60$ for choosing the 1066 :S anyways I emailed them with 2 config and asked them to make a deal out of it... ill see in the future.