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    M860TU, Improved cooling !

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by MikjoA, Aug 22, 2009.

  1. MikjoA

    MikjoA Notebook Evangelist

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    Hi !

    Did you ever noticed that without the 'backplate' of your laptop , it runs a lot cooler ??
    I dun use notebook cooler , I hate them.
    So I wanted a decent cooling system without notebook cooler.


    Here are the pictures !

    [​IMG]
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    I will improve the cooling today... I'll uploadnew shots.
    So far it runs almost as cool as when the backplate is removed lol
    as you may wonder , the backplate is still tough since the grid was quite tough too


    I made it all myself with a minimum of tools ( but I cut my fingers several times LOL )
     
  2. Soviet Sunrise

    Soviet Sunrise Notebook Prophet

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    Ooh, another serial number to add to my collection. Thank you, sir.

    Can you show us some numbers please?
     
  3. kaltmond

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    What tools do we need to do this mod?
     
  4. MikjoA

    MikjoA Notebook Evangelist

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    The blade from a 'steel saw' [​IMG]

    And a cutter to make it looking better [​IMG]

    And finally a kind of paper [​IMG]
    (but with little grains)

    To make edges softer, but becare with the saw to not break to plastic plate and cutter to not cut your fingers like I did ( 4 times LOL )



    And it's longer to do than it looks LOL.
     
  5. Kaze105

    Kaze105 Notebook Consultant

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    By the way, on the lower left side of picture 2. There is that large screw with a little cover. Looks like there are some pins under it, but for what?
     
  6. kaltmond

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    USIM card.
     
  7. LaptopNut

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    What sort of temperatures are you getting for everything that matters?
     
  8. Mandrake

    Mandrake Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

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    For those of us who don't own this what does the before pic look like?
     
  9. Soviet Sunrise

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  10. ganzonomy

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    all that cooling is prob why you got the 13,500+ in 3dmark06. WELL DONE.

    Jason
     
  11. Soviet Sunrise

    Soviet Sunrise Notebook Prophet

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    I see that lightbulb over your head, ganzonomy.
     
  12. MikjoA

    MikjoA Notebook Evangelist

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    At idle, my QX9300 @ 2,73 Ghz ( 9,5 * 287 / 1,25 volt but it's stable at 1.0875 volt ) cores were idling at ~ 39 / 40 °C ( low fan speed )

    Graphic card as idling at 39 ° C aswell and HDD was at 42 °C

    I didn't measured really when it was under full load

    Thank you ^^
     
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    I can only imagine the number of dust bunnies that are going to be going through in there.

    I'd like to see some temperatures under load please.
     
  15. ganzonomy

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    and for all the light bulbs that go off (quadcore, monster venting, copper everywhere), i can't bring myself to do it because the P9700 is so cool.

    The only ones i've done are 8GB and the x25-m
     
  16. devilcm3

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    wonder why you leave the RAM and wireless card open? :confused:
     
  17. Soviet Sunrise

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    Because they produce heat.
     
  18. devilcm3

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    but not so hot as other parts right?
    honestly , it does look strong enough , but i doubt the thin section between ram and wifi card...
     
  19. Soviet Sunrise

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    Right. The wireless card and the RAM don't get as hot as the other components, but they still do produce a considerable amount of heat. MikjoA's goal was to get this notebook to run as cool as running it without the backpanel, essentially to get it to run as cool as possible, and that includes every component on the system. I don't know what numbers we will see when the notebook is standalone on a desk, but with a notebook cooler, we can expect double digit temperature drops across the board.

    However, the problem with the design that I see here is with storage and transportation. The backpanel sacrifices a whole lot for superior cooling. It would be fine if the laptop stays at home most of the time. But when it's time to take it along in a backpack or a sleeve, the bottom of the laptop has zero protection against dust or pressure. And with more than half of the backpanel gone, the components have almost no shielding against static or EMI.

    You can always put some flat rebar on the sections where reinforcement is needed.
     
  20. ganzonomy

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    Right, if it's a desktop-bound computer, I would agree that this is a genius idea, however there is very little bottom structural integrity left to the bottom plate. A good hit to the bottom could split the bottom in half, and that could leave the guts susceptible to damage (and a motherboard, is NOT a cheap piece of green and chippy PCB). I second the idea for reinforcing bars. What though would fit in such a small area though, is unclear at this point.

    Oh and Soviet, I cancelled the SSD, i posted at length in the SSD thread about it. :sad:
     
  21. LaptopNut

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    Maybe you could stick some little copper ram heatsinks on if you are worried about the RAM temperatures.
     
  22. Soviet Sunrise

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    Yeah, that's what I thought too. That little sliver of thermoplastic is the achilles heel of what's left of the backpanel and if enough pressure is put against that section, the bottom half of the panel will be done for.
     
  23. mtness

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    Really quite impressive mod, thanks for showing us what can be done with the machine.
     
  24. Kevin

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    HWMonitor shots please. Without a notebook cooler, this mod has to kill the intended airflow.
     
  25. MikjoA

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    My X9100, Full load with Everest ultimate FPU test

    [​IMG]
     
  26. anothergeek

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    All of the screws are still in place, the "cookie cuts" should still be just as rigid. Having blank spaces are holes inviting destruction, but if properly handled should do ok.

    It's certainly running cool :D
     
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    MikjoA

    M860TU : QX9300 @ 2,73 Ghz

    How u did 2.73 GHz on this platform?
     
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    Very Nice! Cool looking with the blue grating. I also think it will be fine if handled properly. Of course the dust bunnies will fine their way in easier but nothing a can of compressed air weekly can't handle. Oh and very nice temps.
     
  29. MikjoA

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    With setFSB, I used an other PLL, it also work for M570TU.
    Use the RTM-876-660.

    Get FSB (do nothing ) click on Set FSB ( do nothing ) it will fisrt reduce your CPU speed , but after 10 second , it will increase it ! it will overclock ur CPu of 8% , your ram of 8% and ur GPU/shader of 8% ( so when u do it be sure u are running GPU stock speed.

    But I guess using other PLLs might be risky... so becarefull !

    Thanks , I am not worried concerning dust etc, I often open the backpanel and clean inside ^^ so my laptop remain very clean.
     
  30. Balspeare

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    That looks like a mod made by a shop:
    [​IMG]
     
  31. kaltmond

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    Would like to know how much it'll cost to let them cut holes like that.....
     
  32. MikjoA

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    I saw this and I decided to do it aswell myself and improve it by adding a hole on the left.
    I didn't buy my M860TU at invasion labs but at www.clevo.fr

    You can see the grid isn't the same on my mod.
    and that the L shape hole is a bit different on mine

    99 € , I ad looked , too expensive plus sending ur laptop there , addind shipping prices.

    I did it myself for less 20 €
     
  33. kaltmond

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    wow, if you were in DE i'd like to ship u my bottom case cover.... :D
     
  34. MikjoA

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    lol I'm in FR it's not that far ( just under Schweiz ) and I still have enough of grid and blue paint, I could do it ^ ^


    Where did you find a Quadro FX 3700M 1Gb ?
     
  35. Deathwinger

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    Hard drive temps under full load please.
     
  36. haquocdung

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    I second that, and I would like to see other temps as well.
     
  37. MikjoA

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    Ja ja ...

    I'll post it in time (soon ) , I'm just a bit overcharged at the moment...

    But you can already look at such a comparison :

    [​IMG]

    * ORIGINE = ORIGINAL
    * GRILLE = GRID

    The result are analyzed with this mod :

    [​IMG]