MSI SteelSeries Keyboard in P170EM

There are programs that are freeware/shareware, which can control fans. So you can boost 'em again to 100%.

 

Such as... ?

 

SpeedFan ^^ lol SpeedFan - Access temperature sensor in your computer

 

My god Prasad.. I would bet my that you would know something like this

Great link ^^

 

Do I hear a certain "repppp" whisper in the air...?

 

"You have given out too much Reputation in the last 24 hours, try again later."

I'll do as I get some again

 

Nope! I won't rep anybody who asks for it. You should be kind because you want to help people out, not because you want the rep.

 

Psst..I help because I like helping Whether I get rep or not doesent stop me from continuing to help

It would make me happy if I get rep and I always tell it to the person whom I helped and there is nothing wrong in that Im not forcing anything here.

 

Haha I understand your point of view, but if bob gets satisfaction from reps, let him have it, it's free you know

 

Speedfan doesnt work on the newer Clevos and neither does any other fan control software btw.

 

Gah! You're too nice. Rep given.

 

Speedfan has not worked on any Clevo models in the past. Do you know for a fact that it works on your laptop?

 

No idea, but it used to work with all my desktops
And for the record: I have NO idea why I used this^

 

Thanks! And I lollled at the comment "Damn you, Bob! "
*devilhead* Being nice makes me unstoppable! Now Im going to take over the world and I'll start with this forum

 

I figured you'd like that.

 

Is it possible? Yes, but you would need direct access to the EC, and then the SMBUS also. The current keyboard program talks to the hotkey service which uses WMI and some other magic to get info into the EC to make the keyboard do things.

 

And with due co-operation between manufacturer and passionate-programmer, I'm sure it is most doable!

 

I'm sure it is too, we'll let you know when the manufacturer starts cooperating lol!

 

Keep probe them. Let's collectively get this done already!

 

Probably not the best place to ask, but what about the opposite, Clevo backlit kb on the MSI chassis? Or more specifically the MS-1762, which lacks the backlit by default.

Yeah i know what you're asking, why not just the steelseries one? Well because of its kb layout (or lack of alternate ones), and a complete pain to get one around here.

 

It's possible, why shouldn't it be? Same connectors, size everything.

But it won't work with the msi1762 sadly, different keyboard and a lot of other technical stuff

 

I'm not quite getting it, won't work how exactly? Doesn't the regular backlit steelseries work in the 1762 no problem? (can't really say for sure, i know it did work with the 1761 though, backlit included, and if Xotic has it as an 1762 optional...).

 

The SteelSeries keyboard still works on the barebones 1762 laptop and even on the 16F3 laptop. The only little change required to make the SteelSeries keyboard fit is to remove the screw tabs at the top of the keyboard.

 

Oh.. well I'm wrong then, my bad

 

So, any other programs to speed up our fans?

 

If that's the case, then the Clevo kb will also fit and connect, right? But i'm still not sure how the backlight would work though, as the Clevo color options are not as extensive as the MSI. Don't know if only the extra options would be missing, or the whole backlight.

 

So, to give some updates to some answers to any questions on swapping keyboards.

the Sager keyboard fits in the MSI laptops BUT the key mappings for the Fn keys is still MSI.
MSI and Sager key mappings are different (volume controls, etc).

The Sager keyboard does change colors with the MSI KLM software.
MSI keyboard in a Sager, works, but again, key mappings are different for the Fn keys.

You can not use MSI KLM on a Sager laptop, only the Sager backlit controls but you can still change colors.

So unless someone knows how to reconfigure key mappings or has the MSI or Sager Fn keys memorized, I don't see much of a reason to do it other than personal preference in keyboard feel or to say you did something different.

 

Thanks for the info. Honestly i was already expecting the different mappings, but it's still good to know it works, at least.

 

Aw that's sad but thanks for the info Heihachi appreciate it!

 

Couldn't you slap in that sweet MSI keyboard and use a key remapping software like like sharp keys or keytweak to make it work? Sure a fixed bios / software would be best, but this might be a *fix*.

Remap Keyboard Keys with These 3 Free Apps [Windows]

 

Not sure if anyone posted up this question already but before I order my p150em I want to know which one is better. The steelseries kb or just the regular keyboard? anybody likes the other better and why? plus, anybody knows if the killer network card better than the intel?

 

No one keyboard is better its just a preference whether you like chic let keyboard or not, its not like one performs better. As for the network card most people suggest killer network, personally have had them both and I think the intels better at the very least same in terms of performance.

 

Both keyboards are going to be very similar in terms of build and quality.

I'm a little partial to the Sager as it has a bit more of a mechanical feel to it, where the keys make a quiet, slight clicking noise like the old mechanical keyboards.

the MSI has a great feel to it as well and the keys are a bit softer and quieter. This is all just my own personal preference though and each person entitled to their own opinions.
This should no way reflect anything negative on the SteelSeries keyboard, they really are a nice keyboard.

Concerning the wifi cards, either one works fine and at the end of the day both will perform the same.

 

I was under the impression the SteelSeries was more like a mechanical keyboard. Can anybody clarify this?

 

That quote seems like it clarifies everything. The steelseries is just a chiclet backlit keyboard. Just because it has "steel" in it's name does not make it mechanical.

 

To me the definitive feature of a mechanical keyboard is the precision of registering a keystroke, not whether it makes a clicking sound. I don't care about lights, clicks or island layout. I would like the keyboard with the best feel.

 

Do you perhaps know what a mechanical keyboard is? I think it would literally be impossible to fit one within a notebook.

the steel series keyboard is a island style keyboard that should more or less feel somewhat like macbook keyboards if you've ever use them. They are by no means no where close to a mechanical keyboard.

 

I've read more on mechanical keyboards than I care to think about on teamliquid and geekhack. They have come out with so many different cherry mx switches that I have no idea which one I would get now but currently I only have room for Laptops. I have a Mac and a Toshiba with chiclet style keyboards but I would expect a SteelSeries to have more feel to it. I do think one of my coworkers has a MSI laptop so I will see if he got the SteelSeries keyboard. Different shift so it may take a while.

 

So can you replace the stock np9130 keyboard with the upgradable steel series keyboard for the np9150? I know the backlight won't work because the motherboard is missing the connector, but I am wondering since everything else is the same (size, dimensions, and motherboard) if this will work and remap the fn keys as well? I can't stand the stock key layout of the fn keys for the sager np9130. If they replacement remaps the keys to the arrow keys I would do this in a heartbeat.

 

See the previous page, somebody posted that the Steel Series keyboard has a different Fn + keys layout, which means you can have the keyboard but the Fn functions are gonna be in the same places as they are in the normal keyboard.

 

That is only for replacing the stock keyboard with the steel series correct? If you order the steel series as the original board the fn keys function as shown on the layout?

 

They function as intended on the original stock Clevo keyboard, therefore looking at doesn't help you much

 

Meaning that if you have the Steel Series keyboard installed, you either have to have the positions of the FN of the stock keyboard memorized, or have a photo of or the stock keyboard itself by your side, to use the right Fn key combinations...

 

Ha ugh that's annoying!!!! I thought the display of the keys were the actual function combo hit! I need to change my order now because I was told by the reseller that the new keyboard changed the fn key strokes!!!!

 

Wait wait wait, which reseller told you that? I'm sure it can be modified in some way.. maybe the stickers can get rearranged to fit the Clevo's stock keyboard?

 

Xotic pc. I had a chat with them confirming that the steel series keyboard's fn keys functioned as displayed before I decided to return and exchange my 9130 for a 9150! If this isn't the case then I'm going to get the stock sager keyboard with the correctly labeled keys and put the money towards the AMD graphics.

 

It will be mapped to work with the stock keyboard no matter what keyboard you order it with.

 

Well need to change back to the stock np9150 keyboard and put that 100 towards the AMD GPU I guess.

 

That is incorrect, unless the folks at XoticPC are willing to remap the Fn keys for you.
The MSI SteelSeries keyboard does not have the Fn keys mapped as the keyboard indicates, the functions are still that of the Sager laptop, so the Fn key mapping on the SteelSeries will not match with the Sager laptop.
There are no stickers on the SteelSeries or the stock Sager keyboard either. The keys are likely clear to start and then the keys are painted and the characters are the only thing not painted, this is so the light shines through the keys.

 

Ah delightful to get everything clarified, thanks Heihachi! rep ASA I can again