I was watching my cousin play Minecraft on his MSI with a 3720QM and GTX 670M and his game at the same settings as mine is smoother than it is with my 7970M (with both games running at 60FPS). I knew there was a micro stuttering issue with the 7970M in Minecraft and my observation proves it.
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Awesome. I'm sure Minecraft is on AMD's priority list to fix, a horribly coded java game. If you have console, play it on that. It seems the console ports ironically are much better coded than PC's retarded java.
The list of games and issues you have with 7970M are endless, I really think you should put up your 7970M on ebay and get yourself a 675MX/680M. I'm not denying this issue with Minecraft, thankfully I think that game is stupid. Just saying. Seems 90% of the posts about 7970M are from yourself, littlecx and sriker. Just me, seems you three are better off ditching 7970M and getting an Nvidia.
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failwheeldrive Notebook Deity
Aren't posts like this helpful so people can know about existing problems when deciding on purchasing a 7970m? I don't see how they're hurting anything. -
Hulawafu, we are just dedicated to revealing issues and reporting them. It isn't like we have more issues, it is that we care about them being fixed. What is better, no one reporting these issues and thus AMD not fixing them, or us reporting them to let others know? You always reply to me with a certain nasty tone, and it shows that you not only don't understand what my purpose is but you respond negatively because of it.
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Well I hope you are filling out the AMD feedback forms because as you are well aware, AMD does not read NBR. Far as can tell, they don't have any official presence on any forum, CatalystMaker (Makedon) used to on Guru3D, but was it.
I would agree. If someone reads all the issues Tranta runs into, he should just buy a 675MX/680M like I suggested. Seems like a whole lot of heart ache, time wasted to me. That's all.
It's unfortunate, but that is the state of AMD drivers for GCN now. If it wasn't for Tech Report, I highly doubt AMD would be doing anything for micro-stuttering/frame latency that other gamers have been noticing for years now. Nvidia rep were not surprised by this, since their driver testing and development has been taking into account for overall smoothness and frame latency for years and have tools to test etc. AMD seems like with many things, are behind on this. -
TheBlackIdentity Notebook Evangelist
Alert! AMD fanboy trying to cover up issues!
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How is that covering it up? Please explain that to me...
I'm just a realist. With all the bad coverage about the issues of GCN on Anandtech, TomsHardware, NBR, Rage3D, Guru3D and more, AMD's efforts to rectify issues for switchable graphics have been lack luster. I don't expect much more improvements from AMD. All their focus will be on desktop cards as always has been, and now on consoles. For whatever reason, AMD feels it's smart business to dump huge chunks on mobile users.
It's almost 2 months since Tech Report bashed AMD for frame latency and AMD announcing they have been working on memory rewrite for past few months and still nothing. How is it the company even released the GCN a year ago knowing the driver coding for memory management was flawed? Their drivers are not changed much from LVI4 on 6000 to GCN on 7000 even though GCN is huge departure from previous architectures. 3000-6000, were all very similar and just evolutions. 7000 GCN is dramatic change, same dramatic change from Nvidia going from their previous to Fermi, but whatever... -
failwheeldrive Notebook Deity
I think that threads like this serve a purpose, even if AMD isn't directly listening. It may swing potential buyers toward Nvidia, something that AMD certainly will notice and care about. Their drivers still aren't perfect, but they've made awesome strides toward fixing them; hopefully drawing attention to issues like these will lead to AMD finally sorting out all the problems and bringing them up to Nvidia's level, at least driver wise. We all lose if there aren't two high-quality competing gpu manufacturers out there.
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But that's not really our fault and can't do much about. Seems to me investors who likely don't even use AMD GPUs have more impact on what AMD does than their customers like us. AMD focuses on whatever makes most news good press, and that's desktop and review blog sites, who for the most part don't even care or mention mobile ever.
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By the way, after comparing further I noticed that the 7970M doesn't have a lot more stuttering, but a little bit more. There are still areas where the 670M has stuttering.
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Don't forget those awesome Minecraft physx effects. =) I would say buy what you want, and it is nice to get feed back on gaming regardless. It doesn't mean that it translates to user experience across the board.
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After reading your first sentence I was like : D Then after reading your last sentence I was like D :
This is such a shame because Minecraft's the game I go back to the most frequently.
Minecraft definitely smoother with Nvidia
Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by TrantaLocked, Feb 16, 2013.