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    Modded Clevo P870DM-G / N173HHE-G32 Pannel Upgrade

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by runix18, Jun 25, 2021.

  1. runix18

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    Hi guys

    Got a modded P870DM-G with a Clevo GTX 1070 MXM, and after extensive search on the forums I cannot find a definitive answer on Chimei N173HHE-G32 panel compatibility with Clevo P870DM-G.

    I saw that N173HHE-G32 has 4 revisions (c1, c2, c3, c4), which is the best revision?

    Does it work on stock bios (provided that 40 pin EDP cable is in set)
    Does it need a bios mod and so does a tutorial on how to add compatibility exists?

    I already know that Gsync will NOT work.

    Thx for the help.
     
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    UP.
    Nobody?
     
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    So long as the connector is the same pin count eDP it will be electrically ok.
     
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    If you need the panel, I have one that I'd be willing to sell to you at a lower price than what they usually go for :)
     
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    Thx for the answer. My question is whether it will post / have support in bios / black screen after restart / brightness control etc.

    I am aware that maybe it will work if a flash dsanke TM bios mod for DMG, because the 870TM had support for that panel, but that bios mod came with a lot of problems for the DM and has no immediate use because I have a 6700k and clevo 1070.
     
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    If the connector fits it will boot and display. Brightness and g-sync can be a bit more tricky.
     
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    Panels work regardless of chassis as long as they physically fit, edp pins are able to be connected, and the CPU/GPU support the resolution.

    Outside of that the niche features may/not work depending on other variables such as v/bios & whitelisting.

    If you grab hwinfo and compare your current panel / new panel on panelook.com and they match up closely for pins/electrical you should be good to take a stab at it and having it work.

    This comes from someone that did a FHD >> 4K unsupported upgrade and have everything working.
     
  8. runix18

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    This is the comparison between the 2 : https://www.panelook.com/modelcompare.php?ids=21056,28924

    Some mismatch between the lg and inolux at lamp voltage where the LG (the current panel) is at 5,5v and the innolux needs 8v. This is the only major difference, electrically speaking.
     
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    As for the min/max voltage they're in line. To be expected when increasing the output.

    Also, going from 30P to 40P which could cause an issue if you can't find a 40P cable that works with your particular laptop. For that you need to hunt down the service manual and see if one was produced to get the model # to find one.
     
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    Already had the cable ordered.
     
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    Then you should be good to go.
     
  12. ViktorV

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    Hi! Install BIOS from Dsanke, without it the 40 edp panels will not work, there will be no brightness control and the screen will be black.Verified personally)))
     
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    And yes, I almost forgot, G-sync works. I got G-sync in i5-9600kf + gtx1080 configuration with 1920 * 1080 120 hertz panel https:// www.panelook.com/N173HHE-G32_Innolux_17.3_LCM_overview_28924.html
     
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    Yes, probably works on Dsanke because that is based on TM bios, hence it had the cookie validated for that config (meaning that you could have a 9600k/kf + gtx 1070/1080 + n17hhe-g32, runing gsync natively in the TM). Like I said in the previous post, I do not want to install that franken bios on the DM, even tough a 9600k in the DM will be a sweet spot performance/heat.
     
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    How can I add support for this display on the DM bios?
    UP
     
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    Just install the BIOS from Dsanke and the display will work.
     
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    Yes but then I will have problems with no shutdown, sudden restart and the sound bug :(
     
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    Nothing like that will happen, checked
     
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    Dsanke made new bios based on the original ones, but even on the ported bios from the z370 I had no problems
     
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    I have already instaled the new dsanke bios based on the original but it does not have support for Pascal let alone RTX. Do you say that n17hhe-g32 will work on new dsanke mods?
     
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    original bios mod yes, does not support
     
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    I installed the port with z370 for May and everything works fine for me on it
     
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    Ok, I will try the mod myself after I do the mod on easy bios access flash for the DM.
     
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    Hi, Viktor, I`ve flashed dsanke bios (ported z370) bios on my original DM. everything works fine.
    What revision did you have on that N173hhe-G32? Witch is the best revision to use? I can get C4 from aliexpress.
     
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    Manufacturer............. CMN
    Plug and Play ID......... CMN1747
    Data string.............. N173HHE-G32
    Serial number............ n/a
    Manufacture date......... 2016, ISO week 16
    Filter driver............ None
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    EDID revision............ 1.4
    Input signal type........ Digital (DisplayPort)
    Color bit depth.......... 8 bits per primary color
    Color encoding formats... RGB 4:4:4
    Screen size.............. 380 x 210 mm (17,1 in)
    Power management......... Not supported
    Extension blocs.......... None
     
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    Alternatively, you can take such a matrix, it is the same compatible
    B173HAN03.2
    B173HAN03.0
    B173HAN03.1
     
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    Yes but none of the AUO have 94% NTSC color GAMUT like the Innolux, and from what I heard the colors on the Innolux are superb, that's why I want one. Also I learned that you can overclock the panel to 144hz easily
     
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    This is unlikely,I managed to overclock to a maximum of 130 hertz
     
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    Ok, thank you for the input.
     
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    It varies a lot from panel to panel as to what you get.
     
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    I ordered a display 17.3 2k 165 hertz ny173qhm-ny2, I will put it on p870tm1-g. Let's see what happens.)))
     
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    keep us posted
     
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    That what I thought so, because the informations are conflictual, some say they achieved 144hz some not. I wonder if it does have to do with the revision of the panel (the newer the better?).
     
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    It can be variations in the control logic chip, some clock better than others. You are basically running into the weakest link in what has not been tested to that level.
     
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    If you look at the chain....

    GPU <> EDP <> cable <> panel

    GPU has to be capable of 144hz
    EDP typically supports whatever you throw at it unless it's older and only does HBR1
    Cables can be flakey
    Panel has to be configured to enable the RR you desire sometimes

    *Programs need to be enabled for different aspect / RR as they typically don't auto change
    A good actual capability test is to do a LiveCD test of Linux as you can bypass all of the crap in an OS to get a true reading on the panel. If you need to do some EDID or other FW tweaks Linux is where you can do that as well.
     
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    GPUs have been able to do the higher refresh rates for ages, I had a 7770M card doing 100Hz.
     
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    [​IMG]

    It's not a matter of whether or not you hit 100hz. If the GPU doesn't do HBR2 you won't see 144hz above FHD. If you want to keep the door open to higher / faster RR's you need a GPU that supports it.
     
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    From what I could find Pascal series supports at least HBR3 so it is not a problem of GPU it is most probably a display limitation.
     
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    If you want to go above 144Hz that's a bit different because it's mostly pointless at that point anyway, your actual pixel response time wont keep up.
     
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    Does somebody here has/had a P870TM with Innolux N173HHe-G32 display, and what revision is that?
     
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    Hey! I have a p870tm1-g with this matrix.
     
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    What revision is your matrix?
     
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    I don't know where to look at the revision of this matrix, none of the programs show it
     
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    Usually just after the name.

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    Yes, you just need to install HWinfo and check the display tab. It would be a great help to me because I will know exactly what revision to buy for my modded P870DMG.
     
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    I looked, there is no matrix revision there
     
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    See
     

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    I had to remove the matrix to find out the revision, I have Rev. C1
     
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    Thank you.