My Sager questions

Hi guys, I have a couple of questions before I buy my new laptop. I am currently trying to decide between the Sager 9262 and the 5796.

For example how much larger is the 9262 compared to the 5796? I know they are both 17" but how much bigger in size is the 9262?
Also I thought the 9262 is a lot newer than the 5796, it has a lower frequency RAM, what difference in performance does that have?
Are both these laptops equipped with desktop components compared to say Asus laptops?

Many thanks lads, probably many more questions to come though

 

I dont have a 5796, but the dimensions for it are 15.6” x 11.5” x 1” ~ 1.8”. The dimensions for the 9262 are 15.5" x 11.75" x 2.35". I think that should let you know how much bigger it is. As an owner of the 9262, I dont really mind the size. Its big, but its power is so nice. I dont know much about ddr3 vs ddr2, but I dont think it comes out to be a huge performance gap. That being said, only the 9262 has desktop components in it. The 5796 doesnt as far as I know.

If you are thinking about the 5796, I would also look at the ocz whitebook. The whitebook seems to be a better machine, but with ati cards in it. I personally like to stick with nvidia, but ati cards are good too.

 

Sager NP9262 ( Clevo D901C )
Size and Weight
11.75"W x 15.5"D x 2.35"H
11.55 lb. including battery

NP5796
15.6" (w) x 11.5" (d) x 1"~1.8" (h)
8.35 lbs with Battery Pack

NP5793
Size and Weight
15.6" x 11.5" x 1~1.8"
8.35 Pounds fully loaded including Battery

Check out the specs at www.xoticpc.com
Dunno about the weight of the NP5793 though, it says pounds(?)

Edit
If I needed a notebook right now I'd surely go for the (older) NP5793, assuming the pounds is a typo and should be lbs.
Im hauling around a 9.2 lbs Gateway and I assure you, you dont want to be doing that every day. Unless you dont mind putting it in a backpack.

 

Xoticpc has their dimensions backwards. The 9262 is 15.5" x 11.75" x 2.35".

BTW, dont be worried about the size of the 9262. It has to be big in order to fit all the things it can in it.

 

lbs is the shorthand for pounds (pounds weight as opposed to pounds sterling - uk currency)

So there is no typo, just a different way of saying it. pounds = lbs

 

That sounds good and all, but I dont think I will be able to afford to have SLI and 3 harddrives... Will those spots leave a lot of space inside the laptop maybe making it less sturdy?

I would like the 9262 because for the same cash as the 5796 I get a better CPU by miles. Im getting very tempted

Also the only major gripe I have with these Sagers is the funny keys (PgUp, PgDn, Home and End) whats your opinion in this?

 

Leaving out hard drives and a graphics card won't jeopardize the structural integrity of the laptop, don't worry

And what's funny about the Page Up, Page Down, Home, and End keys?

 

think he is referring to the fact that you have to use the function button to use them. It doesn't bother me since I hardly use them.

 

ok in terms of size comparsion this might help you a bit more

http://www.sizeasy.com/page/size_comparison/19680-NP9262-vs-NP5796

they both have similar length & width but in terms of thickness 9262 is thicker

 

@ike - It does sometimes bug me, although not too often.

It's a shame they didn't add an extra column on the keyboard for a standard layout numpad and pg up/dn/home/end. There's plenty of space for it

@jim - that's a good site there, however don't forget that the 579x is wedge shaped, so it is almost half that size at the front (hence 1" to 1.8") whereas the 9262 is just a block.

 

Hmmm, I really want a sager but I intend to do a lot of typing, how disturbing is it for people who often have to make long reports?

 

That depends. How often do you use pg up/pg down/home/end?

 

PgUp and PgDn I dont use too often, but I use home and end quite a bit, any idea why Sager make their design like this?

 

To save space on the keyboard layout. It's not that bad really, it just means that you need to press fn+< or fn+> (arrow keys) for home/end

 

Okay put me out of misery, The 9262 is built on Desktop components and the 5796 is built on notebook components, but that ram is scratching right where I cant reach.
I have read somewhere that desktop components run about 20%-30% better than notebook bits, Im hoping that will offset the RAM and how much more noise is there? Im very sensitive to noise

 

the funny thing is that though the Clevo D901C (Sager 9262) is larger and faster, it actually runs quieter than the M570TU (Sager 5796) and most other high-end gaming notebooks.

Since the D901C has four large diameter fans with independent heatsink/pipes, the fans do not have to spin up as fast since they are more efficient with so much airflow that can be gained from 4 fans...

... as opposed to most other gaming notebooks with one or two fans with interdependent heatsink/pipes, which have to work harder (spinning faster) to cool the components... making them slightly more audible.

 

Also the d901c only uses a desktop processor, everything else is mobile parts (ram/gfx/hdd/etc).

However, the DDR3 in the 5796 has almost no speed advantage over the DDR2 in the 9262 as the only advantage to DDR3 is lower power consumption

 

The np9262 has very low fan noise at low and medium fan speeds-barely audible. The fan noise is somewhat annoying at high fan speed, but the only time the the highest speed is needed is when running some graphics intensive games. I have yet to see my fan kick into high when running my games (including BioShock) and my max gpu temps never get above 76 C so I don't see the need to manually toggle the gpu fan to high.