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    My future laptop build. Thoughts?

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by Fluttershy, May 12, 2013.

  1. Fluttershy

    Fluttershy Notebook Geek

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    The past few days I have been looking for a laptop that is a BEAST and will be pretty future proof. I dont want to get a laptop that in 6 months (hell I still want this to be good in 2 years+) will be old technology. But what I think I decided on is the Sager NP9570. I really like this laptop because it has a desktop CPU and I can pretty easily upgrade the CPU, GPU, or RAM if I ever find necisary.

    The reason why I think this might be a better option than the NP9370 is that I like the desktop CPU aspect of it. But if you look on xoticpc website with the NP9370 you get a decent CPU sure. But step up to the NP9570 and you get a desktop CPU and a much more powerful CPU for only a few hundred more.


    Here is what I plan to buy.


    Sager NP9570 / Clevo P570WM
    - FREE!!! – U.S. UPS GROUND SHIPPING (Use Coupon Code "FREESHIP" in Checkout) [U.S. Lower 48 ONLY / Restrictions Apply]
    - SAGER Spring Sale!!! - $50 OFF When you spend $1350.00* or more per system! (*excludes non-sager parts, accessories, shipping, & taxes)
    - 17.3" Sager FHD 16:9 "Glare Type" Super Clear Ultra Bright LED Glossy Screen w/ 90% NTSC Color Gamut (1920x1080) (SKU - S1X602)
    - Standard Dead Pixel Policy
    - NO Professional Monitor Color Calibration
    - Intel® Core™ i7-3820, 3.6-3.8GHz (32nm, 10MB L3 cache – 4 cores / 8 threads) (SKU – S2N125)
    - - IC Diamond Thermal Compound - CPU + GPU
    - nVidia GeForce GTX 670MX 3,072MB PCI-Express GDDR5 DX11 with Optimus™ Technology [User Upgradeable] (SKU – S3R517)
    - No Copper Cooling Upgrade
    - No Video Adapter
    - No External Mobile Display
    - 16GB - DDR3 1600MHz Quad Channel Memory (4 SODIMMS) - SPECIAL! (SKU - X4Q822P)
    - Standard Laptop Finish
    - 750GB 7200RPM [Serial-ATA II 300 - 16MB Cache] - Default (SKU - S5T306)
    - None Standard
    - None Standard
    - HDD Raid Settings - OFF
    - Combo Dual Layer SuperMulti DVDRW/CDRW Drive w/ Software (When selecting a Hard Drive in the Optical Bay, No Optical Drive is Included) (SKU - S7R455)
    - No Extra Optical Bay Hard Drive Caddy
    - No Back Up Hard Drive
    - NO External USB Optical Drive
    - Bluetooth Included *With select wireless cards only* (See “Wireless Network” Section Below)
    - Sager - Intel® Advanced-N 6235 - 802.11A/B/G/N Wireless LAN Module + Bluetooth™ 4.0 (SKU - S8R111)
    - No Network Accessory
    - Internal 9-in-1 Card Reader (MMC/RSMMC/SD/Mini SD/SDHC/SDXC/MS/MS Pro/MS Duo)
    - Built in 2.0 Megapixel Camera
    - No TV Tuner
    - Sound Blaster Compatible 3D Audio - Included
    - No Carrying Case
    - NO Spare Battery
    - No Car Adapter
    - No Spare AC Adapter
    - No Dock/Hub/Adapter
    - Integrated Fingerprint Reader
    - No Headset
    - No External Keyboard
    - No External Mouse
    - No Notebook Cooler
    - No Thanks, Please do not Overclock my system (Overclocking will add 3-6 business days to build time)
    - No Operating System Redline Boost
    - No Operating System Standard - Drivers & Utility Software Only
    - None
    - No Antivirus Essentials Software Bundle
    - No Back Up Software
    - - No Microsoft OFFICE Software
    - No Software Bundle
    - LIFETIME Ltd Labor* 1 Year Parts Warranty Lifetime 24/7 DOMESTIC Toll Free Telephone Support (Labor through XPC)
    Includes FREE Shipping Both Ways for Parts Warranty Repairs (SKU - X9R009)
    - * 24/7 LIFETIME U.S. based telephone technical support
    * Extreme QA testing by dedicated technicians
    * 72 Hour stress testing and benchmarking to ensure top performance and stability
    - Standard Production Time
    - No Outside of US Shipping Coverage
    - No thanks, standard double boxed packaging is okay with my order
    - No Xotic PC Gear

    Let me know what you guys think. I know the bottleneck on the machine will be the GPU. The problem I have is that the next upgrade option for GPU is an extra $300 AND If I did dual GPU I would need an extra power brick from what I understand and that would just be stupid to carry around 2 bricks (that are each actually the size of a brick) I dont play many games as it is so this probably wont matter much.

    But if I ever did decide in the future that I need something a bit more powerful I can always buy a gtx 680m and upgrade it myself right? My only probelm is I have no idea where to buy a mobile GPU

    EDIT: Also something I forgot to add is that I do have a 512GB SSD currently so when I get the machine I plan to make the SSD my C: drive and the 750GB HDD is comes with my secondary drive.
     
  2. smellon

    smellon Notebook Evangelist

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    I think the real issue is what do you plan on using the laptop for?

    You seem set on the desktop CPU, but 9 times out of 10 the bottleneck lies in the GPU when it comes to gaming. Any of the Ivy or Haswell i7 CPUs will destroy most professional software, whether desktop or laptop CPUs. Even so, as long as you get an unlocked CPU (xm series), you can overclock it as far as your cooling and power brick allow.

    I would highly recommend that instead of the np570 you go with the np370 with a 3740qm with a 7970m crossfire or 680m (with crossfire later). The issues such as heat, weight, and size will eventually get very tiresome. Not to mention for the price and hassle, a desktop will have been more effective.
     
  3. Fluttershy

    Fluttershy Notebook Geek

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    I really appreciate your opinion. I did the configurations on xoticpc that you suggested and it will be a little more than a $100 extra than the NP9570 and thats with a single GTX 680.

    Thanks for your suggestion. I might end up going with that. But I would still like to see what other people suggest.

    As for my uses I would like it to do just about anything I throw at it. So I dont want lag in games, I want to run VM's general stuff. Im thinking I would like to dual boot linux and windows 7 but we will see about that.
     
  4. Vahlen

    Vahlen Notebook Evangelist

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    It's an odd configuration...........but I guess if you don't need gpu power then w/e.
     
  5. Fluttershy

    Fluttershy Notebook Geek

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    :confused: Whats so odd about it?
     
  6. trvelbug

    trvelbug Notebook Prophet

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    unless your doing some heavy video editing or some scientific cpu computing, you can do away with the lowest quad.
    i also recommend getting a single card gpu solution, as sli/cf can get iffy sometimes.
    get the 680mx , or if you can wait check out the upcoming 780m
     
  7. smellon

    smellon Notebook Evangelist

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    The 680mx is only available on the Apple iMac as far as I know.

    For scientific/workstation computing or professional modeling, it would be best to go with a Quadro or Firepro GPU. You will also likely need a quad core.
     
  8. Fluttershy

    Fluttershy Notebook Geek

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    So if I decide in the future that I would like to upgrade my GPU where would I buy a mobile GPU? I have looked but I see no where that sells them.
     
  9. Support.3@XOTIC PC

    Support.3@XOTIC PC Company Representative

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    Sometimes you can buy them directly from Sager, Ebay tends to have them from time to time too.
     
  10. Prostar Computer

    Prostar Computer Company Representative

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    They're not as available as desktop cards, to be sure. But as Hutsady said, eBay sellers are a good source for them, although you often will find used or refurbished cards there.
     
  11. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    If you don't need something specific with the desktop CPU then go with the 9370 as the mobile quads will not perform significantly slower than the desktop ones but will run MUCH cooler.

    Put the saved cash into a better GPU.
     
  12. DarkMx2000

    DarkMx2000 Notebook Consultant

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    Before I can give you a suggestion what is your actual budget for a laptop? The reason I asked is because I noticed that all Sager resellers have this sweet deal going for the Sager NP9370s that is significantly less with the dual 680m in SLI then if you configure it separately with the same configuration.
     
  13. Fluttershy

    Fluttershy Notebook Geek

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    The upgrade to the GTX 680m (which I plan on goign with) is an extra $100. For dual GTX 680 its an extra $700 :err: I think i will stick with the single 680
     
  14. Prostar Computer

    Prostar Computer Company Representative

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    Chances are you don't need dual 680Ms as it is. :)
     
  15. Kevin

    Kevin Egregious

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    At this point you might as well wait 3 weeks, to order something with a GTX 780M instead.
     
  16. Fluttershy

    Fluttershy Notebook Geek

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    But Im sure that would be ridiculously expensive right?
     
  17. trvelbug

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    I meant the 680m

    Sent from a Galaxy far, far away
     
  18. Meaker@Sager

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    It's not more expensive for them to make so the signs would point to it replacing the 680M. Of course it's going into haswell machines so the total price you will have to wait on.