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    My new clevo vibrates a lot

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by lagostada, Mar 7, 2015.

  1. lagostada

    lagostada Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hi I bought a new p650se, but one of two occurs:

    The power adaptor is connected and the laptop vibrates.
    The power adaptor is not connected and it takes several presses on the power button to lit it up (a increasingly number of presses is needed)

    Is something wrong with it? Should I send it back to RMA?
     
  2. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Is it actually vibrating or it it just not electrically grounded and it's the feeling if the charge on the case?

    Have you tried holding down the button for longer?
     
  3. lagostada

    lagostada Notebook Enthusiast

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    Yes I tried, and Yes I have the feeling its some kind of static, altough i tried in 2 different plugs in the house and the result is the same. What is that "grounded connection" people talk about? I have 2 other asus laptops and never felt anything like this. Is it dangerous for the components to have such static near them?

    I tried pressing longer, but it doesn't work, theres a significant difference when the ac is on or the laptop is in battery (it takes a lot of presses when he is in the battery)
     
  4. Mr.Koala

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    Hold the power button for at least 3 seconds.

    The power buttons on Clevos are deliberately designed to be laggy when not plugged in.
     
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  5. lagostada

    lagostada Notebook Enthusiast

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    Thank you very much, why is that anyways?
    What about the static, should i worry about it? Its so close to the battery and hdd that i'm mistrusting it. How do i know if the connection is grounded?
     
  6. Meaker@Sager

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    To stop accidental switching on when it's in your bag for example.

    Can you try it in another building?
     
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    You may just have bad grounding where you live. If you can test elsewhere to see if it occurs it'll either confirm the problem or confirm that it might be something else and worth looking into an RMA.
     
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    lagostada Notebook Enthusiast

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    Thank you, anyways it's because of the grounded connection, will it degrade the battery or any other component? Is my laptop at risk?
     
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    Support.1@XOTIC PC Company Representative

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    It does put you at risk as you are poorly ground which makes your power dirty which could potentially cause harm to components you're also at increased risk if a power surge occurs.
     
  10. lagostada

    lagostada Notebook Enthusiast

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    I meant the static produced by the battery. About the un-grounded connection I've had nearly 8 laptops in this apartment and none had this kind of issue. And power surges had happened before, and there were no problems with it.
     
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    The static is a direct cause of the bad ground connect. The ground would give that static somewhere to go and not build up in your system. Static is extremely bad for electronics and will have the same information as before apply where it can potentially harm your components.
     
  12. D2 Ultima

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    I wish to point out that Haswell chipsets are EXTREMELY finnicky and react to bad power and voltage fluctuations much more so than any other machine I've ever seen. My D900F showed no signs. My 2005 HP shows no signs. My desktop showed no signs (though it did die on a particularly bad power surge one day). My sister's netbook showed no signs. My other sister's notebook has no real issues.

    My current laptop? Tons of random shutdowns and leaves dirty power in my battery causing random restarts and stuff. All sorts of utter crap that happened.

    I'm not saying you'll get the same issues, or anything close to it, but don't discount bad voltage and power fluctuations in your home because your other electronics are fine. There is a REASON the enthusiast community here hates Haswell with a passion.
     
  13. lagostada

    lagostada Notebook Enthusiast

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    My house was built 50 years ago, what am I supposed to do? Pack all my stuff?

    Obvious edit: This is ridiculous.
     
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    Would a quality surge protector have something that can help ground?
     
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    A power conditioner would help but still not being grounded well would be a problem. Some conditioners will allow you to run an independent ground outside of your existing wiring. Doing that would be the best route if it's something you're concerned about.
     
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    The point of my post was to state that you should not discount bad power because other devices work well.

    You can use a line conditioner sure or a good UPS, but that does not fix the grounding issue. Even 50 years old, it should have been grounded electrically. If anybody ever checked your house, they could likely lawfully make you re-wire it. If you have the ability to, I'd suggest getting it re-wired and grounded. Otherwise, one of those APC Line-R line conditioners might help. But first, check it plugged in to other outlets. Try a coffee shop or something.
     
  17. lagostada

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    What UPS should I pick on this case? I know my ac adapter takes 180 Watts, but my knowledge about amperes, volts, and electricity in general is beyond 0, something like -1000. What capacities does the UPS has to own, so that it runs a independent ground outside my wiring? (I didn't even knew that it was possible)
     
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    I honestly have zero recommendations as far as this goes as it's not something I've ever needed to look into getting personally and so haven't tried any. I'd search out a reliable brands by reading stuff online and then contact them directly to advise you on the best product for your needs.
     
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    Try your Clevo at another place first before looking into UPS options so you can make sure the notebook is not defective.
     
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    OP, don't get a UPS.. Do what D2 Ultima said and get the APC Line - R conditioner...
     
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    I thought before about getting a UPS anyways (because of the ssd disks, and to keep the battery safe), so I'd rather get 2 in 1, and solve both problems with a single system, does anyone knows if that's possible?
     
  22. D2 Ultima

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    Feel free to get a UPS if you want, but make sure it has surge protection and line conditioning properties. I know some of the larger APC ones do, but I do not know about all other UPS units.
     
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    All the ups that i've seen regulate the voltage, is that what grounding does?
     
  24. TR2N

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    No...regulate means voltage fixed current draw variable.

    Try with sweaty palms and you'll certainly find the experience more electrifying.
    :eek:
     
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    *electrifrying

    But the apc line-r some users suggested does exactly that, it regulates the voltage.
     
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    http://www.physicsclassroom.com/class/estatics/Lesson-2/Grounding-the-Removal-of-a-Charge

    Basically grounding. You should have your house grounded in general, but if you don't, well... nothing you can really do about that right now. But like I said, make sure your system does not have the same problem in other places first. Once you try a few locations, if your house is the only time it vibrates, then try the line conditioner or UPS.
     
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    Very informative post D2 Ultima, thank you. I already tried it on another line, and yes, it's the ungrounded problem. Now i'm just trying to make sure a UPS will regulate the voltage just as the line-r would do.
     
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    If voltage regulation is the issue, the Line-R is all you need. I use a Line-R 1200va from APC. If it does not fix your issue, you should likely be able to return it, but I would suggest keeping it anyway as it's a FANTASTIC tool.