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    NEW UPGRADE with GTX 1070 for old Clevo/Alienware/MSI

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by woodzstack, Nov 1, 2017.

  1. mjahearn

    mjahearn Notebook Enthusiast

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    I get a black screen when trying to boot into Windows. I can get into the BIOS, but that's it.
     
  2. Danishblunt

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    What 1060 did you get? the black PCB MSI one or the Gecube green one?
     
  3. mjahearn

    mjahearn Notebook Enthusiast

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    I don't have anything over the techs, but as Danish was asking what are you seeing? Have you tried to re-install?
     
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    mjahearn Notebook Enthusiast

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    When I try to boot up I just get a black screen and then have to power off because it's not doing anything else. I'm able to get into the BIOS though.

    Thanks for the link, Danish! I'll have to try that out tomorrow, since I don't have a Windows system available currently to make a DOS-bootable drive.
     
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  7. woodzstack

    woodzstack Alezka Computers , Official Clevo reseller.

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    @mjahearn any luck with the files I sent you or did you use the mirror from Danish ? (or were they essentially same versions? I didn't check personally )
     
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    mjahearn Notebook Enthusiast

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    @woodzstack I used the files that you sent. The version you sent me is BIOS and EC 1.05.01, and the version from the mirror link is 1.03.05
    Though I can't boot into DOS in order to update my BIOS and EC. I'm guessing I need to install the old card and update the BIOS and EC before installing the new card?
     
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  9. mjahearn

    mjahearn Notebook Enthusiast

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    So, I updated my P177SM to BIOS and EC version 1.05.01 and I'm still having issues. The BIOS is reading the VGA Card as Unknown and I'm still not able to boot into Windows with either Legacy or UEFI boot. Any ideas? Again, it's the GTX 1060N that I'm trying to install.
     
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    The BIOS will always read the GPU as unknown as it does not know what string of text is associated to that GPU (answer none of the little list it has). That's the only function this bit of the BIOS does, display some text there.

    Safe mode should boot without initialising the GPU, your VBIOS may be too new.
     
  11. mjahearn

    mjahearn Notebook Enthusiast

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    Good to know. I'll try that out soon. If I'm able to boot with safe mode, what do I do from there? Just restart and try and boot normally?
     
  12. Danishblunt

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    It just means the card has a vBios that isn't compatible.
     
  13. mjahearn

    mjahearn Notebook Enthusiast

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    So, I tried to get into safe mode and it wouldn't trigger. I also tried to load a USB with a Windows ISO in order to see if I just needed to reinstall Windows with the new GPU, but I couldn't boot into that drive either. Any ideas, or do you think upgrading to this GPU is a moot point?
     
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    Looks like a firmware issue then as the gpu drivers are not loaded yet.
     
  15. woodzstack

    woodzstack Alezka Computers , Official Clevo reseller.

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    something seems off. Did the EC and bios flash work ?
    AFAIK P177SM shouldn't have an issue getting into windows with this card, and its been tested.
    I will check a few sources (again, I do not personally have this laptop, so I'm not relying on first hand info for this, so let me see what I can dig up, but I'll figure it out with you)
     
  16. mjahearn

    mjahearn Notebook Enthusiast

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    Should I reinstall the 770M, delete the drivers I'm using for that, then modify the .inf file for the 1060N and install those drivers?
     
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    You can try but it does seem early for drivers to be the issue
     
  18. mjahearn

    mjahearn Notebook Enthusiast

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    Oh, I misunderstood you then. What would you suggest I try next? EUROCOM said that the BIOS and EC versions 1.05.01 they gave me would make this card compatible.
     
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    It might point to a bad card, but maybe see if you can install windows trail onto some spare media?
     
  20. Danishblunt

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    Hold on a moment, you got the card from Eurocom?
     
  21. mjahearn

    mjahearn Notebook Enthusiast

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    I got it from @woodzstack. He said it's a EUROCOM card, but it's the Black MSI 1060N. I know they've had issues with the Gecube 1060N in the past. Will this be a problem? I was told that the card was tested to work before it was shipped to me as well.
     
  22. Danishblunt

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    Eurocom probably borked it with their vBios, wouldn't exacly be anything new at this point.
     
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    Might need to send it back for testing/reflashing.
     
  24. mjahearn

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    Makes sense .Everything that I've been reading seems to suggest that this card should be easily plug and play with an updated BIOS/EC and modified .inf file.
     
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    It should at least safe mode boot.
     
  26. mjahearn

    mjahearn Notebook Enthusiast

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    I've tried many times spamming F8 and Shift+F8 when booting up in UEFI and Legacy boot mode, but have had no luck with triggering Safe Mode.
     
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    Yeah that's not right.
     
  28. mjahearn

    mjahearn Notebook Enthusiast

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    I figured. You think that definitely means that the vbios on the card is incorrect then? Or could it be something else as well?
     
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    Could be the card itself has issues as well.
     
  30. woodzstack

    woodzstack Alezka Computers , Official Clevo reseller.

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    I've never had a 1060N have an issue to date, in all honesty, but who is to say there is not a first.
     
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    BIOS corruption due to static, something happening in shipping, you never know.
     
  32. mjahearn

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    As in the vBIOS on the card, right? Because I'm able to boot into Windows with my old card installed still.
     
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    Yes, talking about the card itself.
     
  34. andrewff2

    andrewff2 Notebook Evangelist

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    Sup guys,

    Just wondering if anyone here tried to upgrade the P151EM with the 1070? I´ve tried it myself everything stock and it's working.
     
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    P151 shares the same motherboard with the p150em and p170em so what's true for one will be true for yours too
     
  36. andrewff2

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    Hmm that's cool! Yeah i was looking around is the same HM77
     
  37. Ragib Zaman

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    I have an MSI GTX 1070 card for my Clevo P157SM. BIOS is Prema 1.03.04 v2, BIOS setup says EC is version 1.03.01 (the Prema BIOS files seem to indicate it flashed an EC so this 1.03.01 may be from that folder), Standard 180W power brick. When I insert the new 1070 into my computer, the fans go on full blast and it starts loudly beeping repeatedly. I think this may potentially be resolved if I upgraded the EC.

    UPDATE : Ok, EC issues seem resolved. Re-installed Windows in UEFI mode, booting in UEFI mode. Card is not detected by the system at all. In BIOS: Chipset --> dGPU --> Not detected. In Windows Device Manager, no trace of it. Sigh.
     
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  38. Csupati

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    Hi!
    I've successfully upgrade my Clevo P177SM-A laptop from 970m 3GB to MXM3.0b GTX 1060 6GB . Driver is nedded to be modded, nvcvi.inf and nv_dispi.inf. Win 10 and full UEFI boot. Other specs: cpu i7 4930MX , 16gb ram 1600mhz , 230W power supply , Premamod bios.
     
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    Hi!
    I'm owner of P177SM-A laptop with 970m 6gb and I'm thinking about upgrade to 10 series.
    Can I install 1070 in it?If yes , which one 1070 should i buy?
    On official eurocom site written,that i can use 1070 : https://eurocom.com/ec/upgrade(2,280,0)CLEVO_P177SMA_SAGER_NP8298
    Also i saw this thread with upgrade of 157SM-A : http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/clevo-p157sm-a-880m-to-msi-1070-upgrade.821153/
    Can i use this guide on my laptop( i have read that P157SM-A have same motherboard as P177SM-A) ?
    Should I buy mxm 3.1 1070 (and modify bottom case like in guide) like this:
    [​IMG]
    Or can i use mxm 1070 3.0b like this :
    [​IMG]
     
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    Hi, i've sucsessfully upgraded my 177sma with 1060 mxm 3.0b card from ebay , no phisical modification needed, only the inf files . I think the 1070 3.0b will fit . Be carefull with te cooling , my 1060 GPU runs in turbo mode at 1900mhz few times 2000mhz .80-85C auto fans. The 1070 have more tdp.
     
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    Where did you get the premamod bios(prema's official website doesn't work)?Is it necessary to run 10series?
     
  42. Csupati

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    When I buy it , it alredy has Prema's bios , I think it's needed. Maybe @Prema can help .
     
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    Hi, I own a P870DM-G, can i install gtx 1070 black PCB like this?
    [​IMG]
     
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    Looks like the back plate might be different otherwise i think so.
     
  45. luckyluca

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    Would the 1060 or 1070 work on my old and aging p170sm ond would it need a vbios upgrade?

    What heatsink would I need (or modifications)?

    What about bios?

    Many thanks!
     
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    Heatsink modifications IIRC but otherwise getting a card like pictured earlier should work.

    You will need to use modified drivers (laptopvideo2go is a good source).
     
  47. luckyluca

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    1060 likely, but need more info about the heatsink modifications required and how to source what it requires.

    Also would the 1060 need vbios flashing?
    I'd rather purchase from recommended seller and all it is required software included.
     
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    No Vbios flashing needed. I don't have exact details but usually sticking points are round inductors as the tallest elements.
     
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