NEW nvidia mobile cards???

Hi to all,
I put in evidence this thread http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=325719

Maybe we can discuss here in Sager/Clevo for what concerns our HW IDs..

 

this will be nothing different all they are doing is giving them a different name they are not changing the cores or the chips..

 

but HW IDs are different from anything we know!!

 

doesnt matter nvidia has already stated they will be the same cards with different names

 

I don't understand how it doesn't matter..

 

Those PCI IDs can be changed on the VBIOS... those "pseudo" new cards can even be just the actuals with a new VBIOS that uses a diferent PCI ID.

What matters here is the core, and later the number of activated Shader Processors/Texture Units, nothing more... the memory configuration can be diferent too(use of more ranks, quantity, frequency), but thats dependable on the maker of the card.

 

Just like the 8800M GTX and the 9800M GT are the same card with different IDs.

 

Yes, I know that is possibile to change IDs with just a bios flash, so (like I said in that thread) this means at least new vbios (hoping in a better OC)

 

the oc will depend on the core and ram chips themselves not the vbios imo which will be the same iregardless of what they call them

 

Mavke said that it is possible to nvidia make a new 8800MGTX (9800M GT) bios with different voltage management, in order to grant a higher voltage for higher OC that G92 can handle (and the proofs are the GTS and the "dell" gtx)..

 

Don´t even try flashing any other VBIOS on your 8800M GTX than the Kapok/Clevo 8800M GTX ones... or you will have high probabilities of making a paper weight of your 8800M GTX.

9800M GT is not the same as 8800M GTX, the core is shrinked(with maybe diferent power source circuit) and uses a diferent video processor(PureVideo HD). Possibly more things that we don´t even know about...

You can have two cards that are exactly the same... but if one have just some diferent timings/latencies on their memory SPD from the other, even with the same speeds, if you flash it with it, the card may became unbootable.

 

audigy i have seen physically with my own eyes at least a dozen 9800gt cards. all of them have been a rebadged 8800gtx they even had the 8800gtx label on the circuit board and were using the same die. maybe they recently changed it out but from a few months back they were imo in fact the same card. i think the newer revisions coming may be the new die but i know the clevo ones i saw were def not. i think even (even though he is banned from here) killer posted screenshots a while back of the same thing he was seeing on the cards shipped to him..

also a few companies i think eurocom was one of them actually told a customer they would flash his 8800 to the 9800 if he sent it back because he wanted the 9800 that he ordered and was sent the 8800 cards. i have also heard about a few others doing the same and they did it just fine. imo why bother when they perform identical. so i wouldnt worry about it but i do know that some have said they did it and its possible. i dont think eurocom would have told him to do it himself as they suggested to him if it was not going to work out for him or them in the end.

 

So those 9800M GT are simply lies... if they are just 8800M GTXs, the core is still the older 65nm one, and not the newer 55nm G92b... still with the older PureVideo processor...

 

Yes these are the infos we have , I've never heard anything different from a "refurbished 65nm 8800M GTX"
this is the reason why I was thinking about new 55nm versions because 9800M GT is currently not produced and anything nvidia is producing now is @55nm..

PS:It's always a pleasure to talk with very competent people in this forum!

 

Well, it performs a bit better than the 8800m GTX and when I edit in HD, there is no CPU power being used as I play it. So I'm sure it does have the 9 series features. It better, or I'll cuss.