NP 8660, similarly performing desktop?

Just curious how much a desktop with similar performance from any reputable brand would cost? I used to be very knowledgeable about hardware and such a few years ago but I have completely stopped paying attention, so I'm just trying to gain some perspective for myself. Thanks.

 

this is the closest i can think of: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8891684&type=product&id=1214611180474

 

Not bad, I just sort of had an epiphany that theres no way I really need the absolute best gaming laptop on a 15" platform when I could get much more bang for my buck buying a desktop for gaming whenever my laptop becomes insufficient for gaming.

 

yeah^^^^^^
if i didnt have to take a plane to get to and from school, i would probably get a desktop and the msi wind

you can get a desktop that is much better than the 8660 (intel e8400 cpu and ati 4850 crossfire gpus) for about $1400 including a 22" monitor! get an msi wind for $500 and you have something even cheaper than the np 8660.

 

Wow sounds nice, I still need a laptop for school but I'll go with a cheaper and pretty capable machine in the HP dv5t and look towards desktops whenever the dv5t wont work decent with the games I want to play.

 

yeah, i was checking out the dv5t and it looks pretty go
the np2096 is pretty similar but a bit cheaper if you want to check that out. it also has a 9 cell battery option if battery life is a major thing for you.

 

ive never owned a laptop before, the only reason im switching is because im moving to Israel. i try not to look at the desktop prices for an equal config because its pretty depressing.

 

I have the same delimma ... 8660 is too darn Expensive for me ... but I want the mobility of a laptop ... I can have at the office or at home or wherever ...

So, I have been trying to decide between Sager NP2096 or Sager NP7680 ... I know someone might say I am comparing apples & oranges ... but if you take away the GPU comparison out ... I wonder which one would be a Better laptop in the long run ... since I plan to keep it till it falls apart ...

G!

 

r u joking nivara?

 

Man I am in this same problem sorta.

I am looking for a computer - but it really doesn't HAVE to be a laptop. Really don't know what to do. I know I could get a great pc and get a crummy laptop for work then have it made. I can build a sweet PC for 1k then spent he extra and get a xps 1330 or something.

This is so tough - I got one of the best deals on this system (M860TU) and i'm still thinking about whether I should actually get it vs. a desktop...

Here's why i'm conflicted - I want whatever I get to last me a good while like at least a few years and I think this laptop will but the desktop just has massive expandability and stability...

Just don't know.

 

9800 gt > 2(9800m gt)

 

i was told 9800m gt = 8800 gtx

perhaps i misunderstood?

 

haha
9800m gt=8800M gtx

in reality, i think its about as powerful as the 9600 gt (if anything, its less)...not sure though

 

What phoduma meant was that the DESKTOP 9800 GT (No M) is ~ 2 times as strong as the laptop 9800M GT (M = Mobile).

 

is there a 9800 gt?

i was under the impression that the only 9800 models were the gtx and the gtx+

 

ive read that the 9800m gt = 8800 gt approximately with the 8800 gt being a bit stronger.... ill take that

 

im thinking,
9800Mgt ~ 8800Mgtx
And
8800Mgtx ~ 8800gts(desktop)
so any desktop with a 8800gts would ~ np8660 with 9800Mgt.
yes?

 

9800M GT= 8800M GTX
9800M GTX=125% 8800M GTX
8800M GTX=8800 GTS 640

2 8800M GTX are better than a desktop 9800 GTX.
Actually, you can expect OCed 8800M GTX SLI to perform close to a GTX 280.

 

Honestly, what I think has happened with most of us who have been anticipating the M860TU (NP8660) so much has been the continually lowering expectations.

Originally it was billed (or assumed) to be the end all laptop to hit in 15.4" form factor.

Then we learned that it wouldn't be capable of 9800m GTX or the Extreme Edition processors.

That was alright though because we still had our 1066 fsb and DDR3 ram.

Next comes the gpu debacle. People starting worrying that the 9800m GT wouldn't match up with the performance of the 8800m GTX. In the end all that was over nothing, the 9800m GT performs just the same, but the whole thing still took a toll on morale.

Now we have multiple benchmarks which demonstrate just how minut the performance difference is between the Montevina platform and the Santa Rosa platform.

All of it kind of adds up to some touch of buyers remorse for some of us.

I am still highly anticipating it's arrival. I'm also sure that once it's in my hands any buyers' remorse will dissipate, but until then it still kind of weighs on you. I've just been trying not to think about it to much.

 

greyreap: yeah man that's exactly how I feel.

Performance as you said from Santa Rosa to Montevenia is quite negligible minus the power efficiency. But honestly - who's really going for power efficiency when this is a gaming laptop? Let's just say it's not the highest priority for M860TU buyers.

And then there's Nehalem. Some say it will be coming out in 4 months or whatever and that's like crazy man.

It sounds great but it might not be all it's really cracked up to be. I guess all it really is, is a couple steps removed from the M15x - I can build a killer q6600 system with 2x 4870 crossfire for sub 1.2k pushign 20k 3dmark06 scores, then get a cheap laptop for $400. And with a PC it doesn't get outdated as fast you know.

I just want to know that I've got longevity with the m860tu you know - that it'll last a long time. Maybe i'm asking too much - don't know.

 

You should probably check out this sticky from the desktop section:

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=139863

The hardware I would use is different, but its all good.

 

I'm pretty sure I could build one for $800 or less.

edit:

Case: Rosewill R5604-TBK - $55
Mobo: GIGABYTE GA-EP35-DS3L - $90
PSU: CORSAIR CMPSU-450VX - $70
CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo E7200 Wolfdale 2.53GHz 3MB L2 Cache - $124.99
Video card: SAPPHIRE 100226L Radeon HD 3850 512MB 256-bit - $99
RAM: CORSAIR XMS2 2GB - $31
Optical drive: LITE-ON Black 20X DVD burner - $24
Hard drive: Seagate Barracuda 250GB - $60[/quote]

'$553.99 + tax and shipping.'

If your not comfortable building your own system, then:

http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/system/Mega_Infinity_6000_Lightning/

I mean, a $1600-$2000 desktop?(Quad core CPU, GTX/4800 GPU). That is not a fair comparison. If I wasn't going to a school 24 hours away (by car) I'd definitely build my own desktop & purchase an ultra portable laptop for school. I'm not sold on the NP8660 yet, to be honest.

lol, the more I'm looking at these desktop GPU's, the less I want to purchase an NP8660:

XFX PVT98FYDF9 GeForce 9800 GTX(G92) 512MB 256-bit - $189.99
DIAMOND 4870PE5512 Radeon HD 4870 512MB 256-bit GDDR5 - $274.99
BFG Tech BFGEGTX260896E GeForce GTX 260 896MB 448-bit - $284.99

I love the way the Desktop GPU's are pumping out series after series, each progressively better than the last. Unlike some mobile gpu's...

 

I hafto agree with the results of the new montevina and 9800-card, ddr3 on both ram and graphics, being lower then the expectations.

I was looking to m860 as a desktop-replacement 15.4", now it feels like its not even close, despite all the new technology. I will get lower temperatures, not much more really.

Seriously considering just keeping my m1330 and my desktop (X2 4800+, 8800 GTS 512, 4gb ram etc). I know I wouldnt get equal preformance from a laptop, but I thought I would get "enough" with the new chips and whatnot comming, just feels like it got a bit more expensive without any true noticable gain.
Ah, im just not in the spending-mood as I was 2-3 weeks ago, ill say that much

 

Laptops cannot compare to desktops ever. The best build laptop, 9262, cannot compare to a 2.8 quad core, 8gigs ddr3, 3 way sli gtx 280 etc... Have to remember for the price you pay for a gaming laptop you can get a much better PC always.