NP5792 Fan Noise

LOL after I canceled my order ... http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=208249

Those guys at Xotic rock!

 

Unfortunately it looks like that allows you to make your fans go full speed(louder) not slower.

Given that they warranty these machines I'm not sure they would ever allow you to purposely reduce the cooling to under their specs.

 

Louder true, but as Gophn points out in this thread http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=208249 at least they will be constant instead of coming on and off.

Please read that entire thread for a good discussion on this topic.

 

RoboMOnkey, that thing doesn't make the fan silent... like paladin said it makes the sound constant... so you have a full tractor running in your house.

 

i tried at work a asus gaming laptop (g1?!?) with a 8600gt 15inch lcd... and it make as much noise as my baby... so i guess its not that bad...

 

Makes as much noise all the time or just when gaming?

 

All the time... Only the Clevo D901C is almost silent during normal work...

 

when gaming the fan stay at high all the time... like every other laptop

 

My 8800 sounds like a motorbike when it heats up....about 10 mins into Cyrsis it goes NUTS!! you can' even hear the darn game! The misses in the other room came in to tell me to turn it down as it was blocking out the sound from the tv. Best way I can describe it is as if a kid hads stuck a strip of cardboard between the spokes on his bmx wheel to make a motorbike sound.

Its really too loud.

 

*Sigh* maybe I'll start saving some morefor the 9263. I work at client sites a lot of the time in quiet offices with lots of people working near by, I doubt they would appreciate airport sounds being brought in with me.

Since I don't really need SLI or multiple hard drives it seems like such awaste though.

 

Cannavar, if it is really that loud I would strongly recommend that you contact your tech support because there is something wrong with it. We have polled several of our customers and find that they do not report it as being anywhere near as loud as you describe.

 

duane123, you will not be playing Crysis when you are in those client sites will you?

 

I think everyone is right we'll have to deal with the sound if we want the best graphics card in a notebook. However I'm thinking about going with one of these two higher ends http://www.gateway.com/programs/pseries/index.php a step down from what the Clevo, but I played around with it in best buy and its a solid notebook. I just cant live with the lowrez screen the others are out on 1/31.

 

lol

it really feels like this fan thing is getting blown out of proportion (but i wont truly know until i get my machine)... it would seem if you keeping looking for something wrong you'll eventually find it. its like a dead pixel, if you keep staring at it, it will bother you.

 

I just might play crysis there, but don't tell them that .

But if it was only when playing 3d games it would not be a concern. However from what I have seen from people posting just normal office operation/web browsing will cause the fans to engage, at which point they are quite loud.

Is that not the case?

 

ill be honest with you... YES! sometime the fan just start up for no reason...

 

multiple hdds set up in RAID can give you a significant performance upgrade.
SLI is future proof, once games start demaning more , just add another gpu and you`re all set.
The D901c(926x) is the only way to go.

 

or just change your laptop in 3 years...

 

yea laptops are worse than cars you need a new on every 3 years to keep up and I can live with that.

 

I hate the concept of future proof. Not to diss your post personally, but the concept itself I see, is flawed.

See how "future proof" a rig was when it had 8800GTXs in SLI before Crysis and look at the same rig now.

 

its all lie... even if you add a 2nd 8800gtx in the laptop... you wont be able to play game in full res in 2 year...

Except if Nvidia really make SLI usefull and not only good for benchmark...

 

Is the 9262 much quieter? If so, I will consider that machine instead. But I agree with you, it seems a bit much to pay $1K extra for just a quieter machine when you aren't taking advantage of SLI or 2-3 hard drives.

Perhaps I will wait to see if the true successor to the 579x is quieter.

 

There is no logical reason for it to be quieter. Same fans, same chasis, stronger GPU ... looks like a simple equation to me...
579x have damn loud GPU fans , PERIOD.
And it does kick in whenever core temp reaches 48. And no matter what you do, IT WILL REACH that temp eventually. And the fan will kick in. And office chums will kick you and your jetengine soundalike out of there. I`m not kidding...got kicked out of a library because of it, and I had to turn it off during classed, it was bothering everyone. Such an embarassment ( and before that at break I was showing off Painkiller maxed out at 1920x1200...)

 

the real reason is... the 570 share the same fan for the gpu and the cpu... and the 901 have separed fan...

 

WOW..that's all I can say. Clevo needs to make a model between them with dual hard drives and dual fans.

 

No, there are two separate fans in 5790 models, one for CPU and one for the GPU.

 

well you have to show it to me... because i had this laptop for a week... and i didnt see that..

 

I am happy the problem has finally being confirmed. When I was complaining few months ago about it, I got bulled from some people of this forum... now I understand it was only because they were trying to sell their notebooks and they wanted to keep my mouth closed otherwise nobody would buy them...

PS: I am happy only because people like me, who can't stand noise, now will avoid to make a wrong purchase if they read this thread.

 

Picture of an 5792/93 posted by Justin:

http://forum.notebookreview.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=13990&d=1200006783

You can clearly see two fans.

 

Will the problem be fixed with the 5793?

 

Well, I am just happy that I have a 30 day money back guarantee to determine if the fan noise is really that bad. I know the fans in my Ferrari run all the time, and they run at different speeds which produce higher volume...It never bothers me, but I can see it being annoying if it is crazy loud.

 

If you mean the fan noise, no, it will be the same as 5793 has the same fans. However, it has a larger heatsink for the CPU, so the CPU fan might go off less. But in my experience the it is the GPU fan that is louder, and that is exactly the same between 5792 and 5793.

 

Fan noise is annoying, but we're not talking casual laptops. These are VERY high powered laptops, some of the fastest you can buy. They have to be cooled, thus fan noise. If you want quieter, waiting won't help, you have to buy a lower end machine that doesn't run as hot. Thus, cannot run games in as high resolution and graphics. It's just life. I've been on the cutting edge of PC gaming for 15 years and once CPU and GPU temps got over 40c, we had to have fans. Now that 60-80 is normal, fan noise is part of PC gaming life.

 

TheFrawg has said it best

Fan noise and vibrations are part of Sager's system test before each system is shipped. The noise level is within acceptable range for the system specification by both Sager and Clevo.

The only objectionable vibrations you should feel from the Optical Drive would be from a warped disc, and you have to really be very sensitive to feel any vibrations from the fan when it is working properly.

Those of you that have not had a high performance laptop before should compare what you are experiencing with the NP5793 with any other high performance laptop out there and you will see they all sound about the same.

As a matter of fact if you go over to the NP9262 threads you will see that people are saying that it is surprisingly cool and QUIET. Now the interesting thing is that the NP9262 is actually slightly louder than the NP5792/3...so I can only conclude that those who are complaining about the amount of noise the NP5792/3 makes either have never had or heard a high performance laptop, or there is actually something wrong with theirs.

If anyone feels that their system fan noise or vibrations are overly noticeable after comparing it with other high performance laptops, they should contact their Vendor's support team to verify if what they are experiencing is defected hardware.

 

Now I don`t know where you`re getting at, but ALL notebook based on the Clevo D90xC are super quiet during idle operations.


I don`t mean to contradict you Donald, but I`ve placed my laptop RIGHT NEXT to a 9260 and trust me, THAT THING is mute, compared to my 5791. And I`ve also placed it next to another 579x and they`re identical in noise.

True, a super duper laptop will have a good cooling system. But for the love of God, they couldn`t have come up with quieter fans for a 2500$ machine? I don`t buy that. And since I`m studying electrical engineering, I know that they can get quieter fans in more ways just one. No doubt about that.

 

eleron911, are you comparing SAGER NP579x to SAGER NP926x laptops?

We also did the side by side test, and they were virtually identical with the only exception that the NP9262 was slightly louder.

Please review what I said about: "...so I can only conclude that those who are complaining about the amount of noise the NP5792/3 makes either have never had or heard a high performance laptop, or there is actually something wrong with theirs.

If anyone feels that their system fan noise or vibrations are overly noticeable after comparing it with other high performance laptops, they should contact their Vendor's support team to verify if what they are experiencing is defected hardware."

 

hmm if I may interject here:
I don't think the issue is so much about noise but rather over aggressive fan settings.

For example on thinkpads and dells using certain freeware utilities you can control the fan so it'll only max during games. It's definitely louder but while gaming its highly unlikely that the noise would bother you. Then when you're back to windows, the fans throttle down, it still goin but not as much making noise not much an issue.

Why can't something like this be done on the 570RU?
In other words the ideal scenario would be to give users a utility that basically have the same type of functionality as powermizer but for fans.


just my $2

 

I don`t think that my 579x is defective or has any problem with the fans. I`ve listened to lawlz_XD`s fan noise and some more on the net, and the one next to mine, and mine...I don`t really think all of them are broken.Besides, temps are exactly as they should be... And if you say the 9262 is louder during normal browsing and such, well then, the guy with the 9260 got the best 9260 ever..lucky him, huh?

I`m only bothered by NON gaming fan noise. That is when at school or studying or such.If I could raise the bar from 48 C to say 60 when on battery mode and run powersaver and powermizer, I should basically never have to hear the GPU fan. So why is that not possible stock?

 

I have an NP5792, and I don't have these noise issues. Its quieter than my desktop . . .

 

its more of a mechanical engineering issue.

 

its not that bad... but it could be better

 

My Idle Temp for my 5791 is ~44°C... Will I physically HEAR a difference If i were to buy a Zalman NC-1000?

 

I got my laptop today and have been playing with it... I have no problem with the fan noise.. what so ever. especially since usually when it turns on high i am in game with my headset on. But even so, its not THAT loud.

 

I would love a program that would allow users to underclock their PC / graphics card and thus turn the fans down or off, and monitor the temperature so that they can be switched back on if neccessary .. i frequently play audiobooks or video from an external hard drive on my pc, or just use it to type wordpad documents, and for this i would not expect the fans to constantly be turning on and off, especially if the CPU / GPU can be underclocked to prevent heat generation. How hard is this to do? I mean, is there any hope for something like this? Would make this laptop absolutely perfect!

 

WHAT DID YOU SAY? I CAN'T HEAR YOU! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

 

Why isn't there a fan controlling program for Clevo, like there is for Dell??

 

I completely agree. I have no problem in fans being loud in the middle of a game, but for browsing / office work it does not have to be that loud. I don't understand why the GPU fan has to come on while one is just browsing. We should have more control over fan speeds - I've tried some fan control programs, such as speedfan, but they don't seem to work.

One solution would be to increase the size of the heatsink and have additional openings in the bottom of the case for additional airflow.

For comparison, my M1710 is really quiet during browsing, most of the time the fan does not even come on. However, while gaming, M1710 is as loud as 5792.

 

Its no louder than my Antec Chill Mat.... i dont know what u guys are complaining about.

 

Clevo does indeed have a fan control table in the BIOS that measures the temperature and tells the fans when to come on, when to speed up, slow down and shut down.

The firmware we are talking about here allows you to control turning the fans on full speed, and then toggle back to automatic thermostatic fan control.

 

Difficult, but not impossible. In fact, there's a whole website devoted particularly to silent (or silencing) pcs, called silentpcreview.com. The website is here: http://www.silentpcreview.com . They even have a primer on underclocking here: http://www.silentpcreview.com/article37-page1.html .

If you hunt around a bit, you should be able to find some utilities that will underclock.