NP5793 Crazy Deal?

Just wondering what the consensus was on the new, significantly lowered price of the 5793's. The new sub-$1400 price seems too good to be true! Are there new developments that I'm unaware of that are (will be?) driving other prices downward?

Basically, I wasn't in the market for a new laptop just yet. However, my desktop is literally about to implode and my current laptop was just an open-box necessity for grad school. I've always been an up-to-date technerd and would hate to miss out on a great opportunity to jump back into the fray. I just don't know enough about the current state of things to know if this is a ludicrous deal that I should jump at regardless of how badly it's needed or not.

Insight?!

Thanks!

 

Sager is trying to clean out the new-old-stocks, that's all. If you are looking for a lappy, act quick because the promotion won't last long. Probably another week or two.

 

The NP5793 is basically a child of the fact that the NP5796 has seen quite a price increase, and so Sager re-introduced this model for a limited time to have an affordable 17" on the market. In the future it will disappear once again (seeing as stock is limited) as NVIDIA re-releases the 9800M GT series to drive the prices of the now higher-priced laptops back down.

I know that's slightly confusing, but I couldn't think of a better way to word it.

 

Yeah that's what's been confusing me. The 5796 doesn't seem like enough of a spec increase to warrant the massive price jump.

As for a 9800m GT re-release, does that mean they're re-tooling it for better performance at a reduced price? Or literally just calling it a "re-release" of what's already on the market?

EDIT: Nevermind! Didn't notice the 1GB GTX in there.

 

you have to be out of your mind for getting GTX.

 

Hahaha yeah I wouldn't be going anywhere near the GTX. I was just initially confused as to why the 5796 was so much more coin.

I'm so torn with this 5793 .. I'm e-mailing every tech-savvy friend I have to check it out and give me a verdict. I'm assuming this thing will play virtually every game on the horizon ... although I'm not familiar with any of the new engine developments.

 

let me tell u this bubba.....this latptop is awesome...i know i kinda sound fanboyish or something, but its true....the only other laptop that can rival it is the gateway 7811fx...but that one has heating issues

 

Argh.

Well, after feedback from some friends I may just wait until next year. I don't NEED a new laptop by any stretch and was looking at this solely from a dollar-value point of view. Realistically, I wouldn't be in the market for another notebook for another year or so ... and I'm guessing that the new Intel chips next year will be a much larger step up than Santa Rosa --> Monte.

Bah. It's still such a good deal.

/wrists

 

I wouldn't count on Nehalem chips making it into laptops for at least another year, if not later, and likely early 2010 imo. This is a great deal, and will probably have a resale value around what you buy it for for a while yet. And yeah, it will play most (any?) games, and stay very cool. It looks like a great deal!

 

Generally I would agree, although I think that there's a greater chance that we might see a Nehalem-based successor to the D901C given that the desktop Nehalems will be released first, and the D901C uses desktop processors. The mobile Nehalem processors will be released later, and thus there will probably not be a notebook using those processors until late, late 2009 or 2010.

However, that being said, the current crop of processors may still be a better proposition, at least through the initial release of the Nehalem processors. I recall seeing an article (I think it was on Anandtech - someone else had posted about it and I followed the link; unfortunately, I can't find it again right now ) that described a number of games performing worse on the Nehalem processors than on current processors. Most likely that's because apps such as games have been optimized to work on the current architecture, including the FSB and the off-die memory controller - both of which will not be present in the Nehalem architecture. As a result, it seems to be a reasonable hypothesis that current games that have been optimized to run on a system with an FSB and an off-die memory controller will show significant performance degradation when run on a new architecture that completely replaces those components.

Bottom line is - if you're after performance, it is probably not worth waiting until the release of the Nehalem processors, certainly not the mobile Nehalems; the real performance gains from that architecture will probably not show up until the software - games and whatnot - have been recoded and optimized to run on the Nehalem architecture, which will probably take at least one to two years after the initial release of the Nehalem processors. That, to my counting, puts us at least two to four years away from getting any real performance boost over current processors from the new Nehalems, by which time most performance-junkies would be replacing their systems in any event.

 

A quick question:

How noticeable would the jump from the DDR2 to DDR3 RAM be? I quit working at a computer store just as DDR3 came out and have zero experience with it and how it compares in actual applications.

 

My advice is to wait for Nehalem. The NP5793 is interesting if you are on a low budget and want a portable gaming notebook. Personally I would consider it if it were available with the x9000 oc'd for max performance on the cheap. The NP9262 really needs an updated chassis and the LCD that both it and the NP579x come with is a lousy TN screen. Hopefully the Nehalem refresh for both Clevo's will include a RGB LED S-IPS based LCD, as well as an updated and improved chassis/form factor and I/O set-up, etc...

 

There is going to be a Nehalem update for the 9262?

 

Oh boy, that's how rumors get started. The simple answer is no. Since Nehalem is a completely different, incompatible architecture, the Nehalem processors would never fit the NP9262 motherboard.

To do that, you'd basically need to design an entirely new system. There's been no word, up or down, on whether Clevo's doing that; however, if they are, then it would stand to reason that, at some point in the future, there will be a system from Clevo, built on desktop Nehalems, that is essentially the successor to the venerable 9262.

But, and here's the important part - that's just pure speculation at this point.

 

So I just stumbled across the Gateway 7811. Looks intriguing. I'd be torn between the faster CPU/RAM in the Gateway VS. the Blu-ray (is it seriously going to be useful in the near future?), build quality and support of Sager. Plus, it sounds infinitely more kickass to respond "Sager" when someone asks what brand the computer is as opposed to "Gateway".

I'm a little put off by the posts of people complaining of issues with the 7811, though.

Any quick, knowledgeable advice regarding the two?

EDIT: Seems this thing is impossible to find in Canada (I'm in Toronto) ... bah. Researching a new computer is annoying.

 

the major arguement between 7811 and 5793 was the price, but with a huge discount like this only a madman will take 7811 over 5793.

 

Hahaha

I like the cut of your jib.

 

Just as a note, the NP5793 is very upgradeable - you don't have to stick with what your reseller is offering if you decide you need more power.

 

Ahhhhhhhh very cool to know! I didn't even think about that.

So, for me I'd go with the T8100 methinks. I'd only be gaming and doing normal menial tasks .. no serious encoding or anything along those lines. Doesn't really seem worth the extra $175+ for performance that I'd rarely, if ever, notice.

You guys think it's pretty much mandatory to get the 1920x1200 WUXGA considering the Blu-Ray drive? It would defeat the purpose by going with the WSXGA, no?

Christ I've been out of the game for too long .....

 

The difference between 1050 (which is the length for 1650x1050) and 1080 (the length for a HD movie) is 30 pixels. I have been told that the blu ray movies are letterboxed by this measurement, 15 pixels above, 15 below. The quality remains the same. Or so I have been told. I will confirm when I receive my blu ray drive.

But honestly, I edit HD footage on this laptop, from that alone, crystal clear, clean footage displaying on my laptop. So if that's any indication. You don't need 1920x1200.

 

Sweet! Thanks for the heads-up.

 

Actually, the last number is the height. 1920x1080 (1080p) is 1,920 pixels wide by 1,080 pixels tall. While the WSXGA+ screen has only a little less height than the resolution of a blu-ray movie, it's also 240 pixels less wide.

Personally, I don't really care about the difference (it's all high quality to me), but if you really need the highest resolutions there should be a definite difference between the two screens.

 

Hi there,


I've got a couple of questions here.

Any idea as to how long the -$600 deal on the NP5793 will last ?
I'm still saving up, so I'll have to wait a little bit longer.
I definately want it though.

Is the upgrade to Vista Ultimate worth the 80 bucks or should I rather spend it on an external hd (or more hd space) or an extra battery pack for instance ?
Or maybe the WUXGA screen, of which I'm still wondering if it would be worth the buck.
I'm going to install Ubuntu in dual boot for regular activities while using Vista for gaming and other graphic intensive windows based apps.

If I order it through XoticPC, will I be able to wire the money from Belgium, Europe ?

And last but not least, does the ac adapter have a european power plug ?


Thx in advance,


Greetingz,

:-[ Brampyr ]-:

 

let's see how fast can u save in 2 weeks.

 

The Sager NP5793 promo is expected to run while supplies last. It is a limited time offer. The AC Adapter does not come stock with a European Power Cord, but one can be purchased with the system or you can pick one up locally in Belgium.

Wire transfers can be sent from nearly anywhere, it would be best to check with your bank to confirm they can send out wire transfers.

 

This is a good deal right now - you should get it.

 

Hi,


I have another question.
Is it possible to get the NP5793 with an azerty keyboard ?

It would matter a lot since I'm used to it.
I can type blindly, but I don't know the placement of all the special characters.

Thanks in advance.


Greetingz,


:-[ Brampyr ]-:

 

Yes, the 5793 is normally available with an azerty (french) keyboard. Talk to your reseller and they should be able to source one.

 

nvm I found it

 

Is there anywhere selling this thing without the Blu-Ray? I really like the deal on Xotic, but I don't really need a Bluray drive. I am hoping I can score it for a little less without the bluray.