NP5793 v NP9262

I know there have been a few threads on this already (As I read them multiple times) but it's hard to find good benchmarks and I have a few questions.


SAGER NP9262 Ultimate Custom Laptop (Built on Clevo D900C / D901C)
- 17" WSXGA+ "Matte" Super Clear Ultra Bright Screen (1680x1050)
- ~Intel Core 2 QUAD Q6600 2.4GHz w/ 8MB L2 Cache - 1066MHz FSB
- 512MB PCI-Express nVidia GeForce 8800GTX DX10 (User Upgradeable)
- None Standard
- ~ 4,096MB DDR2 800 (2 SODIMMS) Dual Channel Memory (Requires Vista 64-Bit to recognize Full 4GB)
- Standard Finish
- ~Combo 8x8x6x4x Dual Layer DVD +/-R/RW 5x DVD-RAM 24x CD-R/RW Drive w/Softwares
- ~ 160GB 7200RPM (Serial-ATA II 300 - 8MB Cache)
- Internal 7-in-1 Card Reader (MS/MS Pro/MS Duo/MS Pro Duo/SD/Mini-SD/MMC/RS)
- Internal Bluetooth 2.0+ EDR
- Built-in Intel® PRO/Wireless 4965 802.11 a/g/n
- Built in 2.0 Megapixel Camera
- Sound Blaster Compatible 3D Audio - Included
- Integrated System Speakers - Included
- Basic Black Business Case - Included
- Smart Li-ion Battery (12 Cell)
- 110/220V 120W Auto Switching AC Adapter - Included
- ~Windows Vista Home Premium 64-Bit Installed (64&32-Bit CD Included) w/ Drivers & Utilities CD's

@ 2,794.00

vs

Sager NP5793 Custom Laptop (Built on Clevo M570RU-U / M571RU-U)
- 17" WSXGA+ "Glare Type" Super Clear Ultra Bright Glossy Screen (1680x1050)
- ~Intel® 45nm "Penryn" Core™2 Duo T9300 2.5GHz w/6MB L2 On-die cache - 800MHz FSB
- 512MB PCI-Express nVidia GeForce 8800GTX DX10 (User Upgradeable)
- ~ SPECIAL~ 4,096MB DDR2 667 PC2 5300 (2 SODIMMS) Dual Channel Memory (Requires Vista 64-Bit to recognize Full 4GB) $75 OFF When Purchased with 8800M GTX
- 1GB Intel® Robson Turbo Memory (Vista Only)
- NP5792/5793 Orange Frame Trim Color
- ~Combo 8x8x6x4x Dual Layer DVD +/-R/RW 5x DVD-RAM 24x CD-R/RW Drive w/Softwares
- ~ 160GB 7200RPM (Serial-ATA II 300 - 8MB Cache)
- Internal 7-in-1 Card Reader (MS/MS Pro/MS Duo/MS Pro Duo/SD/Mini-SD/MMC/RS)
- Internal Bluetooth 2.0+ EDR
- Built-in Intel® PRO/Wireless 4965 802.11 a/g/n
- Built in 2.0 Megapixel Camera
- Sound Blaster Compatible 3D Audio - Included
- Integrated System Speakers - Included
- Basic Black Business Case - Included
- Spare Smart Li-ion Battery (8-Cell)
- 110/220V 120W Auto Switching AC Adapter - Included
- ADD Car Adapter
- Integrated Fingerprint Reader
- ~Windows Vista Home Premium 64-Bit Installed (64&32-Bit CD Included) w/ Drivers & Utilities CD's

@ $2,674.00 (With extra battery and car adapter)


As far as I understand the pros and cons are:

NP9262
Pros:
Higher Quality Build
Better Cooling System (Not as loud)
Desktop Processor
DDR800 Ram
Future Proof with the capability to go SLI or add HDs in the future.

Cons
Heavy (11.5 lbs)
Power Hog (1h to 1.5 Battery Life)
No car adapter (Power Inverter possible?)

VS.

NP5793
Pros:
Mobile (8 lbs)
Car Adapter
Better Battery Life (2 to 3 hours on one battery + spare battery)

Cons:
Slower Ram DDR667
Much Slower Processor
Loud Fans

This computer will be replacing my desktop because it will be faster either way.

Has the mobo and cooling revisions to the NP5793 reduced the noise level/heating troubles?

How much performance would I lose by using the mobile processor versus a quad?

How much performance would I lose by using DDR667 instead of DDR800?

The traveler in me is realizing that unless I have somewhere to plug it in the NP9262 isn't going to be much help to me and there are a couple places for a couple days at a time where I won't have anywhere to leave the NP9262 besides the car and leaving laptops in cars in the summer doesn't sound like the safest thing to do theft wise or heat wise so I would have to lug it around with me.

The hardcore gamer in me is sorry to lose the quad core and the SLI/HD adding capabilities.

I'm going to be at home for the majority of the time but the reason I am getting this is to be able to have a computer to travel with and it doesn't seem like the np9262 is very travel friendly considering I'd only be able to get on the internet for an hour to an hour and a half without it being in a wall socket.

With the spare battery on the NP5793 I can charge one and then swap it out and charge the other right? So 4-6 hours of web use on the go?

 

Okay, let me break it down to you.

Mobile processor VS Quad Desktop Processor, you would be losing a lot of performance in the very end. The question is, do you need the quad core for extreme gaming? If I were you, I would answer no. Since Dual core came out, The bottleneck of casual and extreme gaming didn't came down to processors, but GPU. And Most games cannot take advantage of Quad Core yet anyways. They just adapted dual core, so you would have two (or three even) cores sitting on idle doing nothing while you are gaming. That doesn't mean you woudln't see better performance in Desktop Quad Core processor (crippled, but still desktop) VS a dual core laptop processor. If you have X9000 in one of your 5793 configuration, I would go for that.


As for DDR2 800 VS 667, I would pesonally say that yes, it is an loss, but it is not that much loss. I have an AMD laptop that could take advantage of both DDR2 667 and 800, and I tested both ram out, certainly Vista index points when up by .3, but if you have 4gig of it why need a faster ram

 

try a few hundred threads and 10 in the past 6 days.

let ME break it down for you.

one is for Extreme Hardcore Gaming/Applications.

the other is for casual mobile gaming and good mobility.

that's the ________Line.

 

You will not feel the difference in RAM speed at all. Vista is not a benchmark for RAM.
There isn't going to be much of a gaming difference between these two models and with recent firmwares the fans on the 5793 are not that loud anymore.
dexgo you're wrong. Besides a desktop CPU they will perform the same in games. Today's modern games don't even need quad cores. For extreme multi-tasking the 9262 will be the best but for the rest of the tasks, the 5793 will do more than fine (close to the 9262).

 

I second what everybody else said up there

I have a few tips for ya too.

Get 2 GB of memory on one Stick of RAM and upgrade later. Cheaper usually

Remember to get a 64 bit version of Vista to enable all 4 GB of memory. You did enable it just reminding

Do not waste $40 on Robson Turbo Memory

The Quad is much more future proof IMO also

As for your statement about the faster ram. You will not really see much of an increase although THEORETICALLY 800 RAM is faster then 667 RAM.

 

It is more future proof, but definitely will not kick a mobile CPU's ass so bad that it would justify the comments above. For gamers both CPUs would do fine.

 

Fade To Black, your Wrong. The 901c has 2 video cards, incase you haven't heard . That's why it's more of an extreme gaming rig. and the latter is more casual. ;D

 

Hahaha Ok i will simplify this for the 1 post newb.

*Both will be fine for the next 2-3 years.

*Quad cores will "Arguably" be better for the future as apps evolve to support more and more cores on 1 Processor.

*The N9262 is more of a pure "gaming" computer. Desktop Replacement.

*N6292/3 is more Mobile and you sacrific some options with the CPU, SLI, and HDD enclosures.

*Robson Turbo Memory is a waste of $ if you have 2GB of Ram or more.

*Do NOT base your choice on the fact one has 133 MHZ faster speed when it comes to RAM. You will not see a difference unless your SYNTH benchmarking!

 

If I bought a Sager with a 160GB 7200rpm HD, and later switched it for two 200GB 7200rpm HDs, would I be able to configure them in Raid 0, or can that only be done by the manufacturer?

 

yes,you will be able to do that!

 

There is software that will allow you to configure into whatever Raid Format your hardware will allow

 

Thanks so much for all the quick replies.

I had already pretty much settled on the 5793 due to mobility and battery life concerns (especially considering I couldn't charge the NP9262 in a car.) but it was nice to hear about the fans and the ram not being a big deal.

As nice as it would be to have a desktop processor in my laptop when I am at home it really isn't worth the hassle when I am traveling, at least for me.


I just ordered my NP5793 from Xoticpc!
I went with the 200gb hd over the turbo memory, thanks for the tip.
The memory was only +35 because of the deal going on with the 8800 but I imagine you were talking about the NP9262 when you said that.

 

Congrats on the purchase! Im sure you'll love it. Im waiting a few months until I get mine. A little deal I have with my parents and my next report card hahaha. Anyways post up a review when you get it man!