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    NP5796 w/9800M GTX Has Arrived

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by emike09, Sep 4, 2008.

  1. Geforce2go

    Geforce2go Notebook Consultant

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    What is the GPU temp under load?. I've heard it's quite high.
     
  2. emike09

    emike09 Overclocking Champion

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    Could not compare directly to the XPS, but the screen is very nice and bright, crisp, clean, and interpolates very well. 7.1 cannot be compared system to system, as its a PCI-Express Slot card. But it is good.

    The temps are really good actually. Depending on my ambient temp, the load usually runs anywhere from 65-75C. Never seen it go above 75C, and that was with the FSB and shaders OC'd.
     
  3. Donald@Paladin44

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    It is 65nm
     
  4. emike09

    emike09 Overclocking Champion

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    Thanks Paladin. I was dissapointed to find that out. Everest actually shows the fab process. I'm curious to see how it overclocks compared to the 9800M GT. More shaders equal more heat and power requirements, so it might not go quite as high.
     
  5. E-wrecked

    E-wrecked BANNED

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    Found the thread again! Adding to favorites now.. :) Lemme grab a screen shot.. brb.
    This one is a bit higher..but not gonna cry over a couple points.
     

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  6. eleron911

    eleron911 HighSpeedFreak

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    The Sharp in the XPS is awesome, the LGs and the Samsungs are disasters.
    However, in my older M570RU , I had an LG which was amazing.
    It depends on the manufacturer, I guess, and not so much on the laptop name.
    That's even higher than mine, nice :) I get a little under 11 000.
    But then again, I can play any game on high settings at WUXGA without breaking a sweat :p
     
  7. emike09

    emike09 Overclocking Champion

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    Your just askin for trouble when we can OC our GPUS as you can...
     
  8. E-wrecked

    E-wrecked BANNED

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    LOL. Didn't I tell ya already..the GTX won't OC as much as mine can. Just like the 8800m GTX vs. 8800m GTS. No competition when it comes to OC'ing.. But you will likely get a higher 3dmark, maybe 11167? :p My card is just getting broken in..it will be hitting 12k in a bit :)
     
  9. kobe_24

    kobe_24 Notebook Deity

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    Would you be so kind as to post a screenshot of a Crysis benchmark all high 1920x1200? 1680x1050 all high would be nice, but only if you have time?
     
  10. Johnksss

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    i got mad props for ya e-wrecked, but ummm..... that sager will eat cha up my friend. your running at the top of your class and can't get any real super gains unless you over clock the cpu. (you know im still working on that..lol) his sager isn't even setup for top of the line. his cpu alone is dropping at least 1400+ points off his score alone. (x9100 can be clocked at 3.53ghz) remember, your running 2.9 or 3.06/x9100 he is running at 2.5 ghz. not to mention how the 3d settings are set. most people have them set to quality and then go running bench mark test for speed... guaranteed 400 plus score drop right there.so that's about a 2k spread there..... (speculation of course).

    not sure if the sagers got past the gpu over clocking hump yet...ill have to look, but if so...then that's another 1500+ right there.... so they definitely have room to over clock


    but congrats on all the new np5796 owners!! must be nice to have
    9800GTX:
    112 Stream Processors
    420 Gigaflops

    vs

    9800MGTS:
    64 Stream Processors
    240 Gigaflops
     
  11. emike09

    emike09 Overclocking Champion

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    Thanks for pointing that out johnksss. E-Wrecked is proud of his system and went on a rampage throughout NBR about his kick-A system and how awesome it is. I eventually ignored him as he doesn't really seem to know or care. But its wonderful to have somebody point out the differences there.
     
  12. Johnksss

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    no problem. i just like to see how fast these systems can run. right now...im running my system stock..lol. done really over clocking on this till i figure out the cpu over clock.
    im an overclocker...and i read between the lines...and them sagers/clevos have allot of lines to read between...*LOL*
     
  13. kobe_24

    kobe_24 Notebook Deity

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    So you ignored him because he is proud of his system?

    For some reason, that just doesn't sit right bro, why hate on a fellow member for being proud of his system?
     
  14. narsnail

    narsnail Notebook Prophet

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    maybe starting a thread in every forum including offtopic, is slightly annoying to some, including myself. I am not sure what the point of trying to prove an inferior laptop is better then a highly superior one, but apparently there is one.
     
  15. emike09

    emike09 Overclocking Champion

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    Like narsnail said, it wasn't so much about him being proud, its about him posting everywhere and putting others down about their systems. Lots of us are proud of our systems, but we don't try to prove to everyone were better. Thats all. Make sense?
     
  16. E-wrecked

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    Excuse me? I think you may have taken something the wrong way.. if anything I will ruffle a feather to get some friendly competition..but I don't degrade anyone. And yes, I am proud of my system.. and if I decide to boast about the fact it performs as well, if not better than a system that's at least $1000 more..that makes me a bad person? If you look around some of these forums, and see where I post.. you'll notice that my intent is not to hinder, but to assist. And I may not be the most tech savvy, so when I decide to participate in or start a thread, it is going to be based on my knowledge or experience of that topic. I haven't read back through this thread..but I will shortly, and I'll try seeing it from your perspective. But, I think you may have taken offense to me not kissing your @$$ about your new Sager. Which, by the way, *is* a great machine..and it was a tough choice to purchase the Gway over your Sager. So, I apologize that my boasting(not always humble, otherwise its an oxymoron) in regards to my 7811FX has offended you in any way. That was not my intent. But, pride, conceit, and being an @$$hole are 3 different things. And sir, I have pride in the fact I can be an @$$hole when I intend to be..and conceit is reserved for those who are too ignorant to be prideful. By the way, did I mention I lack ignorance? If I see anywhere I may have offended, I'll be sure to apologize. But I'd like to ask that you do the same. Thank you.

    and thanks alot johnksss :p can o' worms here buddy ;) - but hell, I never knew anyone perceived it as though.. My bad..maybe I should participate more in overclockers.net :err:


    The off forum thread? It wasn't started there, by the way.. I'm not going to go into details. But one of the lovely NBR moderators relocated it there without consulting with me. Thanks for your concern though with what threads I am involved in.. And there is nothing to prove. Just an FYI. Kinda like football, or soccer, or any other competition.. high score wins. If score didn't matter..at least to someone, then we wouldn't keep track.
     
  17. emike09

    emike09 Overclocking Champion

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    Sorry didn't want to make you look bad or anything. Just how it was perceived. You also have a good system, which cost quite a bit less. Just keep in mind were running stock here. The GTX core is a brand new varient of the G92 and as such lacks any OC support. And you have the X9100, which gives quite a boost in performance. If you would you post your stock and overclocked vantage scores we might see a more accurate comparison to our systems.
     
  18. MastaMarek

    MastaMarek Notebook Evangelist

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    So my other laptop Sony FJ 270p with an integrated graphics wont even start 3dmark 06. However it runs AOE2 maxed at 1280x800.

    EDIT:
    Thats a joke, just in case someone didnt catch my pro sarcasm skills ;)
     
  19. Kdawgca

    Kdawgca rotaredoM repudrepuS RBN

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    Guys,

    Please stay on topic. Some posts have been deleted.

    -Kdawgca
    NBR Mod
     
  20. emike09

    emike09 Overclocking Champion

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    Ah lame! ^^^ My southern accent was at its prime!

    Either way though, lets see some stock vantage scores since we have no way of overclocking yet. I believe Vantage will give the best representation of what performs better.
     
  21. kobe_24

    kobe_24 Notebook Deity

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    The point of overclocking is to see how far one can take a system that is at a disadvantage over one being superior at default. As long as I’ve been overclcoking, it’s been to get the same if not better performance than something that cost more. If you accepted a little 3dmark competition, then high score wins no matter what you’ve done to achieve that. I remember back in the day, you could go around in stores looking at how small computer shops were building systems just to run 3dmark03. They could careless what the system did afterwards; they just wanted to get the highest score. They would post scores with only 3 test being performed (actual number of test 10), because the computer would not be able to make it thru the entire test. If it were a competition about a synthetic benchmark, then that is what it is all about. If you want to know how well something really fairs, then start posting Crysis benchmarks! Since I’m a fern believer that talk is cheap, posting proof is far better than just word of mouth.

    @emike

    Vantage will give a better perspective of the video cards performance, but you can also look at the SM scores in 06 that will show which card does great in graphics rendering. Heck, I might just dual-boot Vista just to have a go at Vantage, since I never waited long to tweak that operating system before ditching it for the far superior XP operating system.

    @E-wrecked

    Keep doing what you’re doing, nice to see what the Gateway can do falls I might want one. I just wish you would post a link to the score, as it seems when you do post one, it’s lower than the actual test score you claimed to have achieved.

    No matter what the 9800 series GTX has only 12 shaders more than the GT, while the GT has 32 more shaders than the GTS. From that stand point alone, we know which is better out of the box. The real test comes after you take it to the next level and see what happens when default is not the standard.
     
  22. E-wrecked

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    Orb wont allow me to post public cause it says my driver is not fm approved..but I'll post some links this afternoon. And I'll throw some other benchies up there as well, inlcluding Crysis.
     
  23. Johnksss

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    you have to go in and set it to all.
    i had thought my scores got deleted, but they change things a round a bit. it's like a few sections you have to put in the word "all" and not default. try that and see if they let you post then. (speculation of course)

    edit: yeah, i still dont see any 9800m series results.
     
  24. E-wrecked

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    You cant post em public unless its a FM approved driver..I think it was that fiasco with vantage and the earlier Nvidia PhysX driver..where you could basically cheat the vantage engine to give you insanely high scores. Since, it has been fixed. But, now Orb is more focused on preventing the same thing from happening again. I guess. :)

    Here's my vantage screen shot.. seems kinda low if ya ask me.
    Oh, and it is not overclocked..just stock using the 177.85 XFastest drivers.

    http://usera.ImageCave.com/e-wrecked/vantage1.jpg P4304

    Ok, I'm a bit confused. I am posting screen shot below with my GPU OC'd to 706/998/1820 - these are stable to game crysis with..so I figure they're fine here. Now, my GPU score went up of course.. but also, my CPU scorw jumped about 2k. Umm.. I use RMClock to undervolt the CPU when I add overclock to the GPU. This in essence cutse out my 11.5 multiplier and reduces to 11 with a clock of 2.9 or so. Why did CPU go UP? Anyways..insight is appreciated. Link is below.

    http://usera.ImageCave.com/e-wrecked/vantage2.jpg.jpg P5246
     
  25. Johnksss

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    i think the 9800m series are not really programed in yet.
    here is mine which isn't fm approved.
    http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dmv=187724

    and i looked all over the place to find an fm approved driver. and there seems to be none for a laptop. (speculation of course)
     
  26. Zenica

    Zenica InterArmaEnimSilentLeges

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    ---Hey Johnksss

    Nice to see you over here....
     
  27. E-wrecked

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    Very nice john.. Is there any OC on the GPU?
     
  28. Johnksss

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    hey zen, long time no see.

    thanks!
    yeah. if you look near the bottom it will show what over clock i used. nice feature of vantage. it seems to read most of the clocks.
     
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