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    NP5797 vs NP5793

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by geto, Feb 23, 2009.

  1. geto

    geto Newbie

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    Which would you purchase?

    I like the newer technology on the NP5797, but the price point of the NP5793 is nice too (Also looking at the MSI GT 725-75 too). But I believe these offer a better build.

    Just some peace of mind before I configure something and buy. Thank you.
     
  2. hanko panko

    hanko panko Notebook Evangelist

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    Well, I have been using the NP5793 for one year and am almost perfectly happy with it.

    The fans make a lot of noice. I would expect Clevo/Sager to have eliminated the problem by now...

    Just make sure to check that!
     
  3. geto

    geto Newbie

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    Almost 1000 dollars more, it's a tough choice. I want to upgrade the processor, vista ultimate, the HD, ram, the display to 1920x1200, and
    to bluray.
     
  4. theriko

    theriko Ronin

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    The 5793 is a great machine, and at the current price point, hard to beat. The 5797 has slightly more power (depending on configuration), and you can put a quad core in it, but apart from that, there really isn't much real world performance difference
     
  5. emike09

    emike09 Overclocking Champion

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    Unless you need quad core, faster DDR3, and the 9800M GTX, the NP5793 is a wonderful machine. I had the 93 before I traded it in for the 96, but I've just got to have the best of the best and money wasn't an issue to me.
     
  6. theriko

    theriko Ronin

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    the DDR3 is no faster performance wise than the DDR2 due to the higher latencies. Also the 5793 can take a 9800M GTX, although it'd have to be a user upgrade as sager doesn't offer it as a config option.
     
  7. Varadero

    Varadero Notebook Consultant

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    Blue Ray is not worth it at the moment until we know exactly how the fiendish encryption will pan out if you want to rip a short scene out of films here and there (from various labels), or change video drivers.

    Esata is not worth it because unless you have a SSD, mechanical discs will melt at speeds of only a fraction of esata's capacity. Only slightly better than firewire in practice.

    HDMI is also a marginal benefit - how many times are you going to use a 17" monitor to play HD or to connect to a HDCP TV?

    Vista - topic best avoided! Wait until Win7 - it promises to be lean like XP which is obviously very important for a laptop (unless the evil DRM that 7 inherits from Vista bothers you as a point of principle).
     
  8. emike09

    emike09 Overclocking Champion

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    Very opinionated post, Varadero.

    Bluray is great for those wanting Bluray storage and the ability to take advantage of their High-Res screens. Can't think of a time I'd ever want to 'rip a short scene' from a film.

    eSata is also great if you are running external RAID or have a drive that supports eSata. Just another port to extend flexibility.

    HDMI is awesome for those of us with HDTVs. Simply plug in the cable and you instantly have flawless quality 1080p HD and 7.1 surround audio.

    Vista is now a strong and reliable, high performing OS. It didn't used to be when it was first released two years ago, but it better than XP in many ways. 7, of course, trumps Vista and XP both. The DRM has little to do with the OS and more to do with the company that includes DRM in their media. XP and 7 suffer the same DRM mechanics that Vista does.
     
  9. Varadero

    Varadero Notebook Consultant

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    Maybe I am missing the plot, but I thought that was what a forum was for - lively opinions (backed by reason, of course, which I tried to do after each sentence, maybe failed). The limit on opinions IMHO is where you turn them personal (eg 'you are stupid' or 'you are opinionated'). The OP asked for people's opinions on whether the 5797 was worth the premium over the 5793. I somehow don't think he wanted the specs and dry facts (those can be found on all the reseller sites).

    I agree with a lot of your points - they are all absolutely valid, but I wouldn't pay $1000 for the benefits you listed, with hindsight (I have a 570TU). We all know that there is some benefit to BR, esata and HDMI or they would not be there! The OP asked if we thought they were worth $1000. In my humble opinion they are not, even in the manner you so eloquently put. Of course it ultimately depends on how much $1000 means to you.

    As to DRM, in XP at cmd: "sc stop Secdrv && sc config Secdrv start= disabled". DRM gone. Can you give me the equivalent command for Vista, please? Let's leave it at that before it becomes another XP vs Vista thread with all the links to backward compatibility and performance etc etc :)
     
  10. icon007

    icon007 Notebook Evangelist

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    i have just gotten my 5793 a month ago and i love it. great price and does great with most or all games. don't really care for blue ray, tends to shutter in certain dvr dvd's.
    however, if you want some something a little newer and with last in the long run and don't have to worry about video memory, i would go for the 5797 which you can option it to the way you want it.

    also a future note, get a good laptop cooler if your system is going to be stationary. just put it in search and you will see everyone opinion on the matter.

    just remmeber, a laptop is like a car, there will always be something better on the horizon so look at what you want as to future proof it as to what you think you will need.
     
  11. Charles P. Jefferies

    Charles P. Jefferies Lead Moderator Super Moderator

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    The primary reason to upgrade to the NP5797 is for the faster 9800M-GTX video card.

    Check out some benchmarks for the 9800M-GTS, which is in the NP5793, and see if that's fast enough for you. If so, get the NP5793. Other than the video card, the performance difference between the two is negligible. The new Centrino 2 platform (Montevina) is only very slightly faster than the 'old' Centrino platform (Santa Rosa).
     
  12. rdalev

    rdalev Notebook Evangelist

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    Personally impressed with the 9800 GTS benches. Not top of the line , but close. Especially, if compared to my former chip, the defective 7600go !
    You can chase the best hardware month after month and never keep up. The trick as far as I'm concerned is getting the best bang for the buck !
    Which right now is the 5793 !

    BTW, puchased a PS3 7 months ago to watch Blu Ray movies on my 61" JVC, pc gamer here, but adding in the blu ray player on the 5793 was a bonus for me ! :) I never would have upgraded a pc to blu ray capable !