NP8153-S Review

Update 9/29/2016: I wanted to apologize for incorrectly using the term "IPS glow" in the video as I should have been saying "back light bleed". They are very different and on this laptop it is very much back light bleeding.

This laptop I reviewed is currently on its way back to Sager in California so that they can look at the monitor. I've asked if they can take a look at the strong lighting coming from the monitor on the top right.

Good Evening Everyone,

I did a video review of this laptop recently and thought some of you out there might like to check it out. I think this laptop is a beast. I go over several pros and cons from a gamers perspective. Laptop had a few issues with it, but overall I've been incredibly happy with this purchase. If you're out there considering purchasing this and have more questions don't hesitate to contact me.

 

Thanks! It was pretty thorough, seems like a solid build. I'm getting an NP8173 soon, hopefully it doesn't have that backlight bleeding, and hopefully overclocking the screen to 100hz helps enhance the gaming. Do you have the latest bios and ec profile?

 

Yep thats not IPS glow.

This chassis has had issues with the lcd frame pinching the lcd.

 

Hmm.. would taking it apart and cushion it around the edges work?

 

You mentioned a 3G/4G inbuilt modem.
I have requested this off Metabox for the R670RS and been informed that they do not offer them.
Can you please confirm that it is a working 3g/4g modem, and if it is possible to add it in after purchases?

Thank you,
Wofen

 

There doesn't appear to be any released firmware upgrades at the time of this posting.

For sure. In fact, if I gently put my nail under it and lift is a bit, it goes away! Not sure how I could fix this though. Sager did say they would take a look at it and offered me a RMA and UPS label in less than an hour. Hopefully they can swap it out or fix the current one?

According to the manual, it is absolutely possible to add it in after purchase. Using mobile data cards on a laptop is something I've never done before, so I am going to give you a link to the manual. Search the PDF for "HSPA" and you'll get everything you need to know about it for this particular motherboard and how to use the 3G/4G modules with it.

Link: https://www.sagernotebook.com/drivers/manual/Manual_NP815X_NP817X.exe

 

Thanks for the link to the Manual, I have sent a more detailed request to MetaBox to explain why there P650RS is different then the NP8153.

Also, Loved the review as I am looking at getting that exact laptop.

Wofen

 

At 11:30 of this video, he explain that the "g sync is about 98 percent useless because no title will run at an effective g sync range at 1080p". Can someone elaborate or explain what he meant. .

 

XMG has a newer bios than probably what you are using, they also have an updated EC profile too for the fan, lots of people are using it and it works well:

http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...s-owners-lounge.795090/page-231#post-10350519

if one day people say they fixed their back light bleeding on this laptop on newer shipments I might consider sending mine back for replacement, but for the time being, I think this is as good as its going to get.

Also Gysnc is broken on the newest drivers, you have to run the nvidia drivers supplied by sager to make it work, not sure if you ran into that or not, Gsync is not worthless at all on this laptop, its just limited right now.

 

A better choice of word would be "unnecessary" instead of "useless".

G-Sync provides beautiful image stabilization for a nice, crisp, smooth game play experience below the monitors refresh rate. The problem with this laptop is that the monitor is a 60Hz panel. The GTX 1070 is so freaking powerful that in most games, even with the highest settings, it is spitting out 100+ frames per second. This means that the moment the frames per second exceed 60, G-Sync stops working. So the only way to actually utilize G-Sync on such a low refresh panel is to either choke the GTX 1070 with a frame limiter, run downsampling/DSR, or a mixture of both. The X34 predator in my video review is G-Sync and is a 100Hz panel. My main PC setup makes more sense because at 3440x1440, my GTX 1080 on the desktop averages a little under 100FPS in most titles so I get to see G-Sync working almost all the time.

I hope that explained it better, but don't hesitate to ask for more clarification.

 

Hey Gooface,

I'm not sure if you caught my comments on other forums, but the laptop is on it's way back to Sager in California. I'm really crossing my fingers they can get me a better panel or at least improve the existing one by readjusting the plastic trim.

 

I'm not optimistic about that, seems like the problem is more related to the screen type than anything controllable in the manufacturing process. Maybe when OLED/AMOLED gets cheaper.

 

I'm pretty sure the issue is related more to the panel type than the laptops themeslves, and if the biggest issue you have with a laptop is some IPS glow, then I'd say you're doing quite good with a laptop. Nothing is perfect and no offense but it is a little bit unrealistic to expect perfection.

 

Help someone like me understand the technical differences, aside from G-Sync, of the panels between the GL502VT and the 8153-S that caused the GL502VT panel to have zero back light bleeding, and the 8153-S panel have a lot?

You both indicated that it was the panel type. What are the differences between the two that causes this difference in back light bleed. Teach me so that I can educate others down the road.

 

I've seen bleed in every make and model with an IPS. It's not really isolated to any particular brand. I'm sure there's other complicating factors involved too, but no manufacturer, asus included is going to guarantee no bleed. Also, I don't know who each manufacturer uses for their panels, but there's very few panel makers that all the laptop builders use, so it's possible those two panels came from the same factory, as different as they may have looked.

 

Well answered and thank you for taking the time to respond to that.

While it's still unfortunate, that explanation makes me feel less like someone saw it and simply didn't care and more like I just got unlucky.

Had nothing but good conversations with XoticPC team. Thanks again for the sale.

 

I'm not wrong. You can do the research for yourself, IPS panels are prone to bleeding, this is not something that is new. I'm not a sales person so you don't have to like my answers, I'm just an informed consumer who is very passionate about Clevo laptops, that's all. My P770ZM has an IPS panel with some glow, and some are just more prone to it than others. That's just how it works.