NP8170 / P170HM Owners: CPU Temperature and Clock Speed Comparison

Kivnul and I have had some PM discussions about CPU temperatures as we have nearly identical systems. Although our results are a little different.

Just for the sake of clarity if users would like to post their CPU and GPU temperatures it would help understand how the SB CPU's throttle better.

Please utilize these tools and procedure for consistency sake:

CPU Testing:

Downloads:
Prime95 (stress test) - GIMPS Home
HWMonitor (Temperature Monitoring) - CPUID - System & hardware benchmark, monitoring, reporting
CPU-Z (CPU Info) - CPUID - System & hardware benchmark, monitoring, reporting

Procedure:
1) Open and run HWMonitor and CPU-Z while system is idling
2) Run for 10 minutes and note idle temps
3) Press Fn+1 to activate max fan speed in order to get consistency. That is Fn + NUMBER 1 key (above Q) and NOT F1.
4) Run Prime95 choose "torture test", select 8 threads (should default) and "In-Place Large FFT's". Run for 15 minutes and note temps
5) In CPU-Z please note the CPU speed. Watch to see if if fluctuates or remains steady too.

Please report:
1) Laptop Model (Clevo, Clevo rebrand, or Sager)
2) CPU type (i.e. i7-2720QM)
3) Thermal paste type and self or factory applied
4) Ambient room temp
5) Idle temps (10 minutes idle) with automated fan cycling (default)
6) Stressed temps (Prime95 15 minutes)
7) CPU speed while stressed

Thanks!

 

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My results:

1) Laptop: Sager NP8170
2) CPU: i7-2720QM
3) Self applied ICD7
4) Ambient: 22C
5) Idle: 33/38/32/34
6) Prime95: 70/71/70/69
7) CPU Speed: 2.4GHz

 

1) Laptop : Malibal Satori (HM170-S1)
2) CPU: i7-2720QM
3) Factory ICD7
4) Ambient: 19C
5) Idle: 40/40/36/37
6) Prime95: 64/63/61/61
7) CPU Speed: 2.6GHz

 

Any reason this is just for the 8170? Do think yours has an issue with coing or somethin?

 

Well you could include 15" machines too, but it's hard to draw any conclusions since their cooling systems are different, in a different package, etc. It's really to see how the CPU's perform and if there's any consistency between temperature and performance.

 

Someone should do this for the 8130's......don't look at me! Lol, I haven't even received my unit.

Mr. Mysterious

 

Well if you want 8150 numbers with the 485m, I ran the tests you were looking for.

 

Feel free to post, we can just sort through the data. Having 8130/8150/8170 together will just tell us which cooling system is better, worse, or same.

 

1) Malibal Lotus P150HM
2) i7-2720
3) Stock paste
4) 21C
5) 44C/45C/43C/42C avg
6) 66C/68C/67C/67C avg (never broke 70C on max scores, min scores are ~3C less)
7) Max speed at 3.0ghz (~30 seconds). 2.4ghz avg

alt (Using SF-19 cooler on full blast as well)

5b) 45C/46C/43C/44C
6b) 64C/65C/64C/65C

 

The sf-19/alt + 1 doesnt hardly make a diff? That's a bit disappointing I figured it would do a bit more then that.

 

I thought so too. I didn't test the GPU any though, and that's what cranks out the real heat. The CPU is pretty light comparatively, and prime95 is CPU only.

 

That's true.. Guess we'll see. Wanna try it with 3Dmark or somethin to see?

I understand these things are supposed to have good cooling, but dang this cooler cut the temps of my Dell by 10-15c across the board. Can't believe the 8150 doesn't benefit. I'm tempted to take it back, but I got it for like $45, and I like the angle it puts my keyboard at. Helps me type better..

 

1) Laptop: Clevo P170hm (from german reseller Mysn)
2) CPU: i7-2820QM
3) Self applied coollaboratory liquid ultra
4) Ambient: 18 C
5) Idle: 28/29/26/27
6) Prime95: 63/65/64/64
7) CPU Speed: 2.8 GHz

 

Whoa, 2820qm runs at steady 2.8GHz after maxed for 15 minutes? Plus your temps are considerably lower, granted ambient is also 4C lower than mine, plus different thermal compound. Maybe I'll consider trying that liquid ultra TIM.

 

Hello everyone! Just received my P170HM and I noticed it was running a bit hot. Here are my results:

1) Malibal Satori P170HM
2) i7-2630QM
3) Factory ICD7
4) Ambient room temp 25.3C
5) 66-82 (Min-Max) after 10 minutes, Cores avg 69 at end
6) 76/79/79/77 w/ Fn+1
7) 2194.9-2195.0

What are the safe operating temperature for this model of notebook?

When using max fan (Fn+1), I can hear the fans surge. Is this normal?

Didn't know about the Fn+1 shortcut before running into this thread, could someone list more of the "hidden" shortcuts?

When playing games the fans don't seem to kick to max even though it's under heavy load. Are there any drawbacks to using Fn+1 while gaming (other than noise/battery)?

My numbers seem to be quite a bit higher than everyone's, could this be due to higher ambient room temperature? Any other causes?

(Also, I ran the Idle test w/o Fn+1. Was this the correct thing to do?)

Thanks!

 

For one your room temp is somewhat higher than others.

Also 5) should be idle temps, as in not running anything for ten minutes.

And yes the fans can "surge" as you stated. It's a little annoying if you listen to it, but not problematic I think. Nothing wrong with Fn+1 for max fans for gaming if you can stand the noise, but with headphones on it doesn't bother me a bit.

 

That's one thing I was concerned about. I was only running wordpad and the two diagnostic programs, but the idle temps were still really high.

 

heard that stuff was difficult to work with. good luck

edit: idk. doesn't look toooooo bad based on the video on their site. still kinda squirrelly lookin imo

 

I dunno, looks easier than ICD7 which is super rigid and hard to deal with. Granted ICD they recommend just putting a blob and letting the heatsink clamp force do the work, but I'm always leary of that. They also have a pad that looks like you just clamp it under the heatsink.

 

yeah, i saw the metal pads they have.. wonder if they're worth a shot? maybe you can be the guinea pig lol?

 

If those are idle temperatures, I would seriously consider repasting the heatsink. It looks almost as if you don't even have any! While your high temperatures do indeed seem high, they are not too far out of spec. Still wouldn't hurt to repaste.

 

Yea, we thought about having the option for the liquid metal thermal interface, but then we remembered that its metal, and mobile proc's don't have heatspreaders and there are bridges etc on the top of the chip, and we didn't want to risk the drip (we've seen it move a little before) as the drip could be very bad times indeed =)

But that stuff does work

 

There is also one thing that is better than liquid mettal ....

Pure 99,9999% Gallium

1) buy a bit
2) heat it till it melts ( ~~ 40 °c)
3) spread it over the cpu with a hairfree brush
4) put the heat sink on
5) heat the heatsink (do not power on the notebook) for about 5 minutes
6) hope that you havent used to mutsh
7) wait for the whole thing to cool down and settle a bit
8) get a coffee
9) power it up
10) enjoy the tempratures or if you have done a mistake or used to mutsh cry

Regards

Bastian

ps. sorry for my bad englisch ... (google Translator is my friend )
pps. hizzaah dont use the pads .... they are suecid for mobile cpu´s
ppps. i have used the above method in my new ... but i DO NOT recommend it! Its far to risky ...

 

Ah, good, thanks. Maybe I won't bother. Don't want to risk frying something else. I guess IC Diamond is best non conductive there is that I know of.

 

Anyone else find it odd how cool these laptops are? Mine runs cold.

1) Clevo Satori (Malibal)
2) i7-2920XM
3) Factory ICD7
4) 20C
5) 40/32/41/35
6) Prime 95: 73/73/76/75 with FN+1
7) 2.7938 Ghz usually but it would spike randomly to 2.8394 Ghz so basically 2.8 Ghz

 

1) Sager NP8170
2) i7-2920XM
3) Factory ICD7
4) 23
5) 38-37-42-37
6) 74-77-80-77
7) 2.8Ghz

It seems that most of your 2720 are cooler than my 2920. Does anyone know if the 10C higher is normal because of 55W vs 45W?

 

More W = More heat

1) Laptop: Sager NP8170
2) CPU: i7-2630QM
3) Factory toothpaste
4) 24.7C
5) 47/45/44/42
6) 71/71/73/70
7) 2.
7) 2.195Ghz

With Fn+1 temps = 65/68/69/65, speed = 2.295

 

1) Clevo P170HMx
2) Intel Core i7-2720QM @ 2,2 GHz
3) Stock paste
4) 22ish C
5) 38 | 37 | 38 | 37
6) 61 | 68 | 67 | 68
7) With 8 threads it turbo boosted up to 2,5 GHz

 

With lid CLOSED using external monitor:

1) Laptop: Sager NP8170
2) CPU: i7-2720QM
3) Factory applied standard paste/pad
4) Ambient: 23C
5) Idle: 36/37/37/34 (34/36/34/32 with FN-1 for a few minutes)
6) Prime95: 74/80/80/76
7) CPU Speed: 2.8GHz peak, but 2.4-2.5GHz through most of test

With lid OPEN (because some say heat is vented through keyboard):

6) Prime95: 74/79/79/76 (the middle cores fluctuated between 79 and 80 constantly, but with lid closed it was constant at 80)

Edit: in case anyone cares, the fans audibly downshift to slower speeds at about 58, 53, and 48 degrees.

 

UPDATE:

I changed out my factory applied standard paste/pad for IC7.

1) Laptop: Sager NP8170
2) CPU: i7-2720QM
3) Self-applied IC7
4) Ambient: 23C
5) Idle: 38/38/38/36
6) Prime95: 75/77/77/73
7) CPU Speed: 2.8GHz peak, but 2.4-2.5GHz through most of test

I'm not sure why my idle temps went up, but it's OK because my Prime95 temps went down.

 

1) Clevo P150HM
2) CPU: i7-2720QM
3) Gelid gc extreme (applied today)
4) Ambient: 22.8c
5) Idle 10 min Fn+1: 31/38/28/33
6) Prime95 15 min Fn+1: 58/65/58/60
7) CPU speed 2.5ghz all the way.

With no Fn+1: 68/73/67/69

 

So far we're getting 2.2-2.6GHz with 2720QM even between P150 and P170. Actually temperatures seem to be better in the P150 than the P170 too. Something is up there.

The 2630QM is even doing decent with 2.2GHz at load.

 

Why wouldn't my 2720QM go higher than 2.2GHz? When I push it, shouldn't it boost up? Can I control the speed manually? The Intel Extreme Tuning utility shows that Turbo Boost is enabled...

 

Well, using CPU-Z (or any other CPU monitor), you should see it spike up to around 3 GHz, then slowly ramp down to its "stable" clock. Mine is about 2.4GHz. Actually it tends to flucutuate between 2.4 and 2.5 GHz.

Here's a YouTube video, watch in 1080p to be able to read CPU-Z speeds.

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Oh! I wasn't looking in the right spot. I was looking at the "2.20" under the Intel logo on the specification line. I'll have to re-run the test now so I can watch it! lol

Edit: I updated line 7 on my above posts.

 

Seems mine is the slowest then so far.

 

I just got my Sager NP5165/Clevo W150HR w/a 2720qm and I am getting temps in the low 90's for prime 95 and idle temps in the low 50's. My i7 920 oc'd to 4ghz doesnt get this hot.