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    NP8651 case construction

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by yjacket2001, May 6, 2015.

  1. yjacket2001

    yjacket2001 Notebook Geek

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    Greetings,

    I am a tight engineer and futures trader, and found this to be the best for (my) money option.
    2 things I demand are Windows 7 Pro OS and an aluminum case 15.6" to 13" range.

    ** Sager NP8651 is a complete aluminum shell, all sides construction isn't it?

    The pics are hard to tell anything from except, 'buy, buy, buy, ...", and NONE of the pc's except Mac advertise case materials. I've found a few candidates, but this is the one I want to keep until 2020, at least :) Unless you get one with this pc's capabilities, it is easy to get outdated by technology; and many of the other pc candidates were the minimum requirements or already about to be obsolete (even new products - ie - 8gb ram!)

    THANKS!
     
  2. octiceps

    octiceps Nimrod

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    It's a mixture of aluminum and plastic
     
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  3. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    It gets hard too cool higher end parts in a uni body machine anyway. Apple keep their specs conservative to get away with it.
     
  4. yjacket2001

    yjacket2001 Notebook Geek

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    So then, no matter what laptop I choose or how much I spend, the screen is going to be hanging because of the broken plastic hinge supports in couple of years if I use it, no matter what?

    So maybe the HP Spectra x360 from Best Buys at less than half the price is the best laptop deal and just save the investment grade pc investments for the home computer. I know my Acer S-3-391 from wmart has been great, but its still running like brand new going on 5 years (w/ Win7 Pro upgrade and Business Office 2010 upgrade.) Even if it is 4gb ram, It runs cool as a cucumber and has never missed a beat: never, including all the many drops (stuff happens.) Reliability is the most important thing to me in ANYTHING I buy, so I was mistaken.

    I was just getting ready to pull the trigger too: Thanks! I can't afford to pee money away.

    Regards.
     
  5. octiceps

    octiceps Nimrod

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    Have you looked at mobile workstations?
     
  6. yjacket2001

    yjacket2001 Notebook Geek

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    They don't sound mobile or like a value purchase: but no, I have not looked at them since around 2002 and they were expensive underpowered gorilla's from my perceptions at the time: for deep pockets with convincing engineers justifying them Only on whims.

    IF that is so, then they would last forever, but would be technological obsolete in a couple of years. It is different causes of death (since they seemed obsolete new), but the value of a cheap all aluminum mainstream pc case w/Win 7 Pro and the maximum ram and video card seems like a better deal if you can find it on a slippery slope of marketing values. And those suckers were heavy (kind of like an Alien?)

    And with the automatic batteries (no ups energy bills) and convenience, I thought the laptops would be a perfect economical solution for a mobile trading workstation, Fat chance. However, the HP Spectra x360 seems like it might be an effective alternative to 2020 possibly, while getting a redundant home workstation. And that way, I would not have to carry my expensive laptop with me everywhere I go anyway :)

    Dammit, nothing's easy.
     
  7. octiceps

    octiceps Nimrod

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    Oh, OK. Just making sure since you said reliability is the most important thing to you. TBH with you that sudden outburst and jump to conclusions was pretty funny. Maybe you should get a Razer Blade, but then you'd really be pissing money away. :D
     
  8. yjacket2001

    yjacket2001 Notebook Geek

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    And just briefly carousing the web, "workstations" are software based plastic pc's with slower hard drives and memory WITH THE PLASTIC HINGE SUPPORTS that will break in a couple of years anyway. So they have nothing: no (relative) speed or reliable case support for the extra money, except the name "WORKSTATION." So with the reduced heat from the configurations, they do not reinforce their cases at all. I know they are faster than 2002, but the bottleneck in reliability is the al case (metal vs plastic, and the coolest and lightest metal too.)

    All of this cooling tech, and it can't happen w/ all AL cases? NOT only that, but AL cases most effectively shields microwaves from the radiation beasts, so it is a safety issue as well (destroying your body cells from the nucleus - instant destruction in muscle atrophy and brain damage as well). Being skeptical, I think it is more a matter of planned obsolescence (like Cheverolet's.) I know this is an oversimplification of a complex assembly, but there is some basis of truths here. Where is all the wasteful overhead going to?
     
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    yjacket2001 Notebook Geek

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    Thanks greatly. You have saved lots of time catching up 13 years. I'm sorry I did not punctuate all the minutia details, but I did not have time for the psychological games. Sagers are maybe the best of the best, but quite possibly maybe not the best value for every situation. Good values in pcs' are very hard to ascertain and as well, execute a good purchase decisions. Again, I appreciate your help and kindness and I may use their towers or notebooks in the future. I try to keep an open, but logical mind paretoing on the essentials. The glossy photos of misty pcs behind spotlights keep misting my brain with cloudy images though.
     
  11. ugaboga313

    ugaboga313 Notebook Consultant

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    The hinges are quite good compared to the gx640 which I did have hinge problems with (after dropping it off a bed)
     
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    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    True workstations have a few advantages over regular machines, they will usually have internal metal frames allowing for greater abuse, tighter component control reducing failure rate and higher quality plastics (that survive impacts better).

    Also they will use quadro/firegl chips designed for CAD programs. Legacy ports will be used for greater backwards compatability and they will have docking port connectors to expand their connection options. Cooling will usually be over provisioned for extra reliability.

    Are they for everyone? No. But there are good reasons why they exist.
     
  13. kevjitzoo

    kevjitzoo Notebook Enthusiast

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    I always felt Sager had great durability. The plastic isn't flimsy at all IMO.