NP8660 WUXGA and WSXGA+ Screen Brightnesses (quantitative)?

Do any resellers have information regarding the screen brightness (cd/m^2 or "nits") of these displays? I couldn't find any information on Sager's website or websites of resellers. Also, would anyone happen to know what brand of display (manufacturers -- LG, Samsung, etc.) will be used for each type? I know that Sager is much higher quality than most OEMs, which sometimes have variability in display sources (one person gets an LG, one a Samsung, and the quality is claimed to be noticabely different).

If the information isn't readily available, would someone mind asking Sager?

My pre-order is for the WUXGA, but I'm having second thoughts and some of this information may help to stop the vacillation.

All the best and thanks in advance.

 

Nobody knows anything about or is also curious about this?

 

I'm very curious but I doubt anyone at all has an number for you. I don't think people will even know who's making the sceens until they start receiving the unit.

 

No one has a number on this yet unfortunately. Gavinh is correct, we will have to wait until units start shipping. I am sure there will be allot of reviews up right away once it is released and shipping. Once the units are in stock we will try to get these specifics.

 

Thanks guys

I think that by the time there is a review, mine will almost be at my door , so it won't really help in making a decision before I get mine. That's okay, though; I won't let specifics impact my decision too much.

I just find it a bit odd that nobody will know until units start shipping. Sager has to have a gameplan at this point for which screens they will be using, given that they are estimated to receive the chassis in less than a week. Maybe there is a separate, super hush-hush NDA regarding the screens! :laugh:

 

You can expect standard 15 inch LCDs to be in it, LGs, Phillips or Samsungs.
Better pray for an LG.

 

Hi eleron,

Do you suppose when the laptops become available Sager or the Reseller(s) would tell lil old us what Brand of Screen is in the laptop!?!?

G!

 

The brand of the screen is not the only thing that's important. The brightness, the maximum contrast, the picture quality, the viewing angles are equally important.

They should offer an option for a 1680x1050 matte screen. We'll just have to wait and see. The 1680x1050 glossy screen may not be that bad either.

I just hope that Sager's notebook screens will be comparable in quality to Sony's notebook screens. Sony makes incredible screens.

 

I had WSXGA+ Glossy in my 2092 and it was AWSOME ... looked 10 times Better than Sony's HiBright or whatever is called. I think it was a "Chi Mei" LCD. I am not not sure if I would have been as happy with the Matte version of it!!!

I was originally going for the WXGA ... but I am glad I was talked into the WSXGA+ ... no comaprison.

G!

 

Those things are all important, but the reputation of some brands over others in delivering good performance of those characteristics prompted me to lump them all under a brand. Like eleron said, LG has a great reputation, so that would be a sweet screen to get.

Unfortunately, I really don't think that they will be offering a 1680 x 1050 screen; if they did, I'd get that one in a heartbeat. It definitely won't be an option before my laptop arrives in a few weeks ... but demand is what's driving that from being offered. I'm sure that glossy would be okay, but where I use the laptop may cause a glossy screen to be vexing.

And, I agree: Sony screens are pretty sick.

 

Hi MetroMike,

May be when you get your 8660 ... you can post back and let us know what Brand of screen yours came with.

Thanks,
G!

 

Sure I will let you know

 

1. Was the glossy screen on your NP2092 reflective?
2. Have you compared the screen on your NP2092 to a Sony screen, such as the one on the FW series notebook (Hi-color version)?

Thanks!

 

Justin/Paladin -

With the units in Sager's hands within the next few days, could you please contact them to get specifics about the displays? The WSXGA+ will be in stock, and they probably know what WUXGA screens will be available due to their delay.

The brightness and manufacturers of these displays are still deciding factors for me; if the WUXGA matte screen is substantially less bright than the WSXGA+ glossy screen (as it has historically been, in general, for 15.4" screens (for Dell, etc.)), it could still steer me toward the WSXGA+.

Please see what you can find out to aid us fence-sitters in deciding?

Thanks!

 

Hi Cossack,

Sorry I haven't gotten back to you any sooner .... I usually check my messages regularly ... somehow this one slipped by ... anyway here are my answers to your Qs

A1) I used my Sager NP2092 only in an office or at home ... so indoor ... for indoor use the screen WAS NOT reflective to me. Just plain beautiful ... and I got a lot of people at work going ouh ... aah ... they loved the screen.

A2) I have not seen teh FW screen ... I understand you can find Sony FW laptop at this time in "Best Buy" ... BUT, I have seen both Sony FZ XBRITE-ECO and XBRITE-HiColor ... and as you know the Sony's ECO version screen stinks compare to their XBrite ... if you are getting ECO screen might as well get a Toshiba or HP or whatever ...The only Sony screen worth mentioning is the XBRITE-HiColor... AND my NP2092 beats the Sony's XBRITE-HiColor hands down. Cossack the 2092 WSXGA+ screen is really nice.

Hope this helped!

G!

 

Hi MetroMike,

If GLARE is an issue ... I would say wait till some folks get the Glossy and report back their results ... but also, what is Glare to you ... might be A-OK with somebody else ... so how do you account for that ... See following posts ... although they are not about Sager (Compal) laptop ... but close enough discussion and different point of views ...

Look at Post #9 on this URL
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=57328

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=280041

MetroMike ... I wonder if Justin of "XoticPC" and or Donald of "Power Notebooks" when they get their Matte and Glossy Screens they can check them out for the folks and post back

1) How bearable is the Glossy Screen in outdoor situation?

2) How Bright is the Matte WUXGA?

G!

 

Hi gonwk,

Thanks for your suggestions. I have done extensive research into the matte vs. glossy issue which, as you pointed out, is user-specific and all opinion. I have used glossy screens before, but only the really bright ones seem to have reduced reflections to a level tolerable to me. Perhaps to me, even your Sager's screen, which you have had no trouble with and is gorgeous, would be distracting and eye-fatiguing to me (there are also differential opinions on eye fatigue -- some say glossy causes less strain, and the majority say matte is easier on the eyes). I just have no way of knowing, and there isn't any way to extrapolate your specific reaction to extended use of one or the other without experience. I have experience with matte and know I tolerate it well, but even that is fatiguing on my eyes after a few hours.

On the other hand, I don't want a WUXGA screen. I would prefer the WSXGA+ if it were matte, but I might also prefer it if the glossiness is tolerable and the screen is very bright -- say at least 250 nits. This notebook will be for productivity 95% of the time, and though I can increase the DPI and zoom in web browsers / Office to enhance usability at that high resolution, I am also buying this thing to game with -- otherwise I'd pick up a Thinkpad. When I do game, I'm sure it will look good with either display, but I will be able to play future games better at WSXGA+ than WUXGA.

I won't be using the glossy screen outside, so that isn't really a concern for me; I just use my computer in labs and my apartment. Do you use yours outside much?

Anyway, I have been vacillating about this for weeks and I still can't make a decision! I still have the machine configured for WUXGA. If I do change it to WSXGA+, I could always try that for a bit and then exchange it within 30 days for a machine that had matte. That way I could gain experience with the glossy and see if it really isn't for me in the environments I use it most.

All of that aside, if Justin or Donald can get some stats on the screens, please post them

 

speaking of amazing screens, I was just in a sony store, and i say a stand titled "tv of the future"
It uses organic light diods (dont know what that means)
It was only small, about 12inches wide screen but only 3mm thick. Now thats petty impressive.

 

metro. I'd say just try it out and return it if you don't like it.

 

Oled - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oled
They say sony already made a 27 in panel...

 

Hi Metro ... I use my laptop in office and at home ... I have never tried it outdoor. I would hate to shell out $80 to $100 just to try out something and return it. From what you wrote earlier ... I would definitely wing it and go with WSXGA+ ... because I think the fatigue on your eyes from WUXGA resolution it would be more than the Glossy fact ... and I know someone will say well increase your DPI on WUXGA screen to 120% or something and that will fix your problem ... but to me the darn icons then look kind of funny ...

Either way ... you have to post back with your experience ... I am dying to hear it.

G!

 

Gonk, you might want to check out Sony's Hi-color screen on the FW series. I recently saw the notebook at a Sony store. The screen is amazing.

I just hope that the screens in Sager's new notebooks will be just as good, or even better.

By the way, I've heard of Chai Mai and their brand of notebook screens. A lot of people have been saying positive things about these screens.

 

Hi Elite,

I have seen the Sony's FZ XBRITE Hi Color ... and if FW is the same then YOU will LOVE WSXGA+ screen (at least the Chi Mei one) ...

I don't know what brand screen will go in the NP8660 (Clevo M860TU)!

G!

 

The FW series notebook had a double-lamp Hi-color screen. The only difference in comparison to the FZ is a 16.4" screen with a 1600x900 resolution.

I've heard of the Chi Mei brand and it makes some great screens!

As for the screen that the NP8660 will come with, it may vary, but I'm sure Sager/Clevo won't dissappoint. It's a gaming notebook, so it should be coming with a high-quality screen.

 

gonwk --

I will definitely post back with my experience. Chi Mei has some nice screens, but I didn't see that they offer a WUXGA version. I really just fear getting one of the grainy, 175 nit Samsung WUXGA displays that is randomly installed into some Lenovo T61p and Dell m1530 machines; recipients of this particular display are very unhappy with it and many exchanged these units hoping for an LG-Philips or swapped out the displays themselves.

If I knew that I were going to get a Samsung display and couldn't request otherwise, I'd opt for the glossy version to save $150, swap it out with an LG-Philips WUXGA I would buy from a 3rd party, and then sell the Samsung display on eBay since it would be brand new.

What do you mean that the icons look odd when you scale up the DPI? That is exactly what I am planning to do, actually, so I am curious. Are you running Vista? My old man's T61p has a WSXGA+ display and when he increases the DPI to 120 (or a custom setting for that matter), everything scales cleanly (from what I've been told -- I haven't witnessed it in person). I don't think XP handled this nearly as well. The icons can also be increased independently of DPI increases, and they scale well in Vista due to vector scaling. Please let me know

 

Thanks for your reply. Its good to hear that the NP2092's screen is better than Sony's Hi-color screens.

 

Hi metromike,

1) My Chi Mei was WSXGA+ ... so I haven't check around to see if they offer WUXGA.

2) Yep, I was running XP SP2 (go figure ... old timer) ... reason for me preferring XP over Vista ... it is because most of my software that I do Video Work with run best on XP.

Hope that helped! Now I gotta run and beat the dog for chewing my slippers again!

G!

 

Thanks gonwk.

Don't go too hard on the dog! I'm sure s/he... means well?

 

My NP3790 screen was very disappointing =(

OLED is definitely the future.

 

NP3870? What computer is/was that? Is it a much older model; if so, display quality has probably increased a lot since then.

OLED is the future, but it won't be in laptops at an affordable price for 2-3 years yet probably.