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    NP8662 vs. NP5793: Which one?

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by jmoore2001, Apr 9, 2009.

  1. jmoore2001

    jmoore2001 Notebook Guru

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    I'm trying to decide which one to get, as the 5793 has a deal going on right now.

    Except for the CPU and video card, everything else I have configured almost exactly the same (4GB memory, 320gb 7200rpm hard drive, etc.)

    So my question to you is, which deal would you opt for?

    1. NP5793: 17", T9300, GeForce 9800M GTS for $1639 (includes Blu-ray but isn't a big factor for me)
    -OR-
    2. NP8662: 15", P9600, GeForce GTX 260M for $1979

    Difference of $340

    Obviously #2 is better, but what about for the money? Is it really worth the extra money to go for the P9600 and GTX 260M over the T9300 and 9800M? The other difference is the size of course. Please let me know what you think! :eek:
     
  2. Texanman

    Texanman Master of all things Cake

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    go for the np8662 mainly because it uses new technology so it will become obsolete later then the 1st choice...2ndly your already spending at least that much already so you might as well just go all the way :p
     
  3. ThmsLngbrd

    ThmsLngbrd Notebook Guru

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    Personally I think the size is the most important factor here, as the difference in performance is not really that big. If you'd like a large 17" screen, go for NP5793. If you'd like portability, go for NP8662. If the size doesn't matter then I'd have to agree with Texanman; go with the best performer if you have the money.
     
  4. jmoore2001

    jmoore2001 Notebook Guru

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    With the P9600...is that going to give me a noticeable boost in battery life since it uses less power?

    Also, with the video card, any difference at all that I'll be able to notice between those two? Does the 260 use a newer technology that will be important later on?
     
  5. Kevin

    Kevin Egregious

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    The GTX 260M will be at least a 25% boost over the 9800M GTS.
     
  6. Cookie

    Cookie Notebook Evangelist

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    25%? More like 5%...Which would equal about 2-3FPS in most games.
     
  7. WebRender

    WebRender Notebook Consultant

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    Well if that's all it is then perhaps it's not worth an upgrade.
     
  8. yotano211

    yotano211 Notebook Evangelist

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    its the same GPU but clock a little higher, yea 10% tops.
     
  9. LaptopNut

    LaptopNut Notebook Virtuoso

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    Nvidia claim a 50% performance increase which is of course very unlikely but I don't think the performance increase will be as little as 10%.

    The GTX260M supposedly has less power consumption and allegedly runs cooler than the 9800M GTS.
     
  10. jmoore2001

    jmoore2001 Notebook Guru

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    hmm so the 260M uses less power also? so that coupled with the P9600 would improve my battery life significantly you think?

    another question...if I got the 8662 and got the P9600; would I be able to upgrade it later to a higher clocked quad core? Because I'm assuming I wouldn't be able to upgrade to a quad core from the 5793. If so, I guess that would be more future proof.
     
  11. LaptopNut

    LaptopNut Notebook Virtuoso

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    The NP8662 Motherboard is already Quad capable so you can upgrade later on if you want to. After a lot of debate and research I decided to go with the Quad on my NP8662 but I am not concerned with battery life.

    I am not sure if the lower power consumption that I have heard the GTX260M (allegedly) has is significant enough to make much difference to battery life. Apparently it runs cooler and with less power consumption due to the smaller die size.
     
  12. Kevin

    Kevin Egregious

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    Only 5% over the 9800M GTS, with a 112 vs 64 shader count? Yeah, sure. Let's make a $100 Paypal bet on that one. Even the 9800M GT has a 5% lead over it.

    About power consumption, the GTX 260M consumes as much power as the 9800M GT.
     
  13. yotano211

    yotano211 Notebook Evangelist

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    the only extra battery life you might see is about 5 extra min if not less than that or a little more. they are both rated 75 watts so i dont even think the battery life will be improved any.
     
  14. souroull

    souroull Notebook Evangelist

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    going for the 5793 and upgrading to a 280m when the new lines come out and they're dirt cheap is not a bad idea for a super long term bang for the buck solution.

    i guess if you wanted a quad core monster you wouldnt be looking at the 5793 anyway
     
  15. theriko

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    Except that the 5793 is highly unlikely to support the 280M...
     
  16. GamingACU

    GamingACU Notebook Deity

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    you could just go with the 5797, which does support the 280m and offers quad processors.
     
  17. souroull

    souroull Notebook Evangelist

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    i'm pretty sure the 5793 will support it. just not the quads
     
  18. eqmiami

    eqmiami Notebook Consultant

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    Why does Clevo have to make so many NICE laptops and WHY can't somebody just give them out as charity!?

    I wish I was rich :S
     
  19. theriko

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    What makes you so sure of this? The 5793 does NOT support the 9800M GTX, so why would they let it use the GTX280M?

    The reason the older models don't support the newer cards is because then if you want the best performance, you have to buy the new models...
     
  20. souroull

    souroull Notebook Evangelist

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    so the "upgradable" line is just shoved down our throats for nothing? isnt quad processor support the only difference between the two, or am i missing something here
     
  21. eqmiami

    eqmiami Notebook Consultant

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    So then technically, can a person just buy a new motherboard whenever there is a slight difference in it to make his "FutureProof" machine upgradeable?
     
  22. Oiad

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    "Technically", yes you can. Good luck with all the requests and hard work that goes into it if you decide to go down that route.

    Correct again. The Quad support is really the only difference between the two. It's funny because most of the 8662 buyers (looking at this forum) so far have opted for dual-cores instead.
     
  23. theriko

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    NO, the 5793 is the older santa-rosa model, which tops out at the x9000 processor, the 5796 is the new montevina which tops out at the x9100 and can handle 9800M GTX & will take GTX280M, but can't take quads, the 5797 is exactly the same as the 5796, but can take quads.
     
  24. souroull

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    oh there we go ok i completely forgot about the 5796, confused it with the 5793

    when did the 5793 come out and how long did it last, anyone know?
     
  25. theriko

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    5793 came out ~jan 2008 (mine was one of the first :D - though obviously not officially a 5793, it's based on the same machine), and they are still selling it.

    It's strange really, I can't think of any other clevo notebook that has continued to be sold once its successor has been launched...