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    NP8662: What would help run Crysis better?

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by CrazyLink1, Aug 17, 2009.

  1. CrazyLink1

    CrazyLink1 Notebook Consultant

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    I have the standard CPU when you order this laptop from XoticPC, the p8700 2.53GHz. I have 4GB of DDR3 in this thing.

    Which would help this laptop run Crysis more efficiently? Increase in RAM, or CPU to a slightly higher Duo like one that does about 2.8 or so, or better, or the best Quad this thing can take?

    From what I understand, Crysis doesn't take advantage of Quad cores, so getting a Quad that has 2.0GHz per core would be lesser for me then my current Duo that does 2.53GHz. Is this true?

    I plan to do both, upgrade RAM and CPU, but can only do 1 at a time, and wondering which is the best upgrade.

    And regarding CPU, what would be the best CPU upgrade that this laptop can take?

    Thanks.

    Please supply any links to the proper RAM and CPU's. :)
     
  2. ChinNoobonic

    ChinNoobonic Notebook Evangelist

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    4gbs of ram is more than enough. the price of ddr3 ram is very expensive once you pass 2gb sticks. its more worthwhile to upgrade your cpu. crysis however is more gpu dependent so overclocking your gpu will yield more performance.

    i'd recommend a p9700.
     
  3. CrazyLink1

    CrazyLink1 Notebook Consultant

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    P9700 over the T9900?

    Also, is 2.0 quad at all better then 2.53 duo? I mean, again, I heard Crysis only utilizes Duo, so does that mean it would basically be like 2.0 duo if I played Crysis with the Q9000?

    I am not sure how it works. Also, is the Q9000 the only Quad that works on the NP8662/M860TU?

    Yea, I have been slightly Overclocking my GPU, trying to get better results. What do you have yours overclocked to?

    Mind you, I am an extreme graphics , so I MUST have the highest resolution possible, and I put EVERYTHING to Very High. My main Very Highs are Post Processing, Shaders, Shadows, and Water. I can put anything else to just High, but as you can see, the ones I prefer on very high are the killers.

    I get 15-20fps...to many that is HORRIBLE, but to me, very playable in Crysis. But I would love to somehow achieve maybe 20-25 or so. That would be great. The 3 ways I can get those frames is by either knocking down 1 of the following: Post Processing, Shaders, Resolution. But they all seem to much of a difference.

    Thanks for the quick reply btw
     
  4. ChinNoobonic

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    well the p9700 uses less power than a t9900 and its cheaper. if you have the money then go ahead with a t9900.

    since crysis isnt cpu intensive you wont see much of a difference with a q9000.

    the m860tu supports all mobile quads (q9000, q9100, q9200, qx9300) so you wont run into problems installing one in it.

    i run my card at 600/900/1500 (keep the shader clock 2.5 x core clock and dont put your memory clock past 950mhz, you wont get any performance benefit from memory clock going above that). you dont have to run it at native res. you will get more frames at lower res, so experiment with it.
     
  5. Soviet Sunrise

    Soviet Sunrise Notebook Prophet

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    You will get an enjoyable fps at 1440x900 with all settings set to medium.
     
  6. ChinNoobonic

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    what Sov Sun said.
     
  7. Oiad

    Oiad Notebook Evangelist

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    You should be able to leave the res at native. My 9800M runs @ WSXGA native, all medium no AA with out stuttering/ lower than 35-40 FPS. A 260M should be better able @ handle those settings.

    It's still a beautiful game at medium settings.
     
  8. LaptopNut

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    Considering that some powerful gaming desktops will struggle with the same settings you are using I think you are not being realistic.

    Crysis still looks great with a mixture of high and medium settings at native resolutions. Upgrading your CPU is unlikely to make a difference and neither is your RAM.

    As mentioned before, a GPU overclock is about the only thing that will make any noticeable difference.

    I recommend that you do a search for Custom Crysis configurations and test those out instead.

    Crysis can't be very CPU intensive since I am getting the same frame rates as you on my Q9000 Quad when I set every single setting to Very High and disabling 2 Cores doesn't really effect performance like it does on some other games.
     
  9. Deathwinger

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    what the heck are you doing asking this for a laptop right now, get a desktop and put the same money's worth into that for the experience.

    If you want that power from a laptop, I suggest you wait another year and then play Crysis (and not its sequel Crysis 2 or whatever other hardware pushing game comes out)
     
  10. da1writer

    da1writer Notebook Evangelist

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    Unlike the poster above, I'll be a bit more lenient :p!
    You could give CUDAATS a try. It causes the game to look better than [stock] very high settings and runs better as well (better optimizes the code). The best choice in the config/mod is to set it at level 4 (which kills Post Processing) or level 4+ (has Post Processing) - you can simply choose one or the other that you like (and give you the frames you want).

    Check out the pics in the link below and you'll see a difference. The gray clouds by the way is if you also install the Time of Day addon as well, the color of the ground and the clouds color are determined by the ... time of day (and how the sun is set).

    http://incrysis.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=23117
     
  11. anothergeek

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    If you're serious about getting Crysis to run as smooth as possible, get the T9900, overclock your GPU, and try Dox's 182.46 driver. I can run everything on high (DX9) 8xAF at 1680 x 1050, and finish the game 100%. It's not always 30 FPS but for the most part it is.

    Very high settings are really just out of the question unless I'm playing at 720p on my TV, but even then 1080p on high is arguably prettier (stressing the GPU a little too much here).
     
  12. da1writer

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    Before you go out to buy upgrades (save a bit of money for now), try my suggestion first (a post or two back). Patch the game up to the newest one helps and You'll find out CUDAATS gives you a bit more frames as well.

    I still don't understand why anyone would be still using stock/vanilla High-Very High settings from Crysis, CUDAATS mod makes the game look way better and play faster than very high settings on Crysis. CUDAATS mod is the first thing EVERYONE needs to grab if they get Crysis and should be using!
     
  13. maozdawgg

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    With the CPU and RAM you already have, I highly doubt you will see any noticeable difference.

    The only thing that can noticeably improve your FPS would be improving the GPU, which is true in most computers given that they don't have miniscule RAM and archaic CPUs.
     
  14. CrazyLink1

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    I installed the CUDAATS mod, overclocked my GPU SLIGHTLY to 600/900/1500 and the game hits 20-25, lowest about 19, hits up to the 30's sometimes, and looks fantastic, my only nitpick are the shadows, but thats being REAL NITPICKY, it looks GREAT and runs fantastic!
     
  15. Soviet Sunrise

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    I am assuming this is on all high settings?
     
  16. CrazyLink1

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    It is basically custom settings. Its the framerates of High settings, however they retain many visual effects from the Very High settings, such as parallax mapping, object motion blurs, those God Rays projected from the Post Processing effects.

    The shadows are the only effect most obvious that it isn't "Very High" The edges of the shadows are sharper then that of the softer edges the Very High settings give, but its still softer edges then High settings. Its in between.

    Some things even look better then Very High Settings, such as the Water.

    Its a great Mod and runs with great FPS.
     
  17. Soviet Sunrise

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    Ah, I see. I'll have to check out that mod sometime.