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    Need Help, Sager NP 9262 3DMark06 score 8888?

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by Asheth, Feb 25, 2008.

  1. Asheth

    Asheth Notebook Enthusiast

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    I am somewhat new to getting in-depth in the Notebook area I have lurked and read for a while here. I know some people have different configs for the Notebooks. But I know some are saying they have achieved scores above 9,000 or 10,000 Out of the box.

    My setup is in my sig.

    I have tested with stock drivers 167.44, 174.12, 174.26, 168.28 Have installed the ATI tool but havent read up enough on overclocking the GPU so I want to learn more before I attempt that.

    Right now I am using 174.12 drivers at Max Resolution 1900X1200

    I installed Kaspersky but I dont know if that is running oh hogging system resources. When I tested I didnt disable Aero, and before I installed the new drivers I ran Driver Sweeper.

    My question is how can I raise my score? I've tried the popular drivers. Only thing I can see is overclocking GPU I dont know if I should attempt it in a laptop I have read various opinions on that. CPU overclock which from what I read the E6850 can be pushed to 3.8GHZ safely right now mine reads at 2.9GHZ? Im on Vistax64 thanks in advance for any help!!
     
  2. Fade To Black

    Fade To Black The Bad Ass

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    AT what resolution are you testing?
     
  3. Asheth

    Asheth Notebook Enthusiast

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    When I ran the 3DMark06 my screen resolution was at 1900X1200.

    I have the NVida control panel set to let the application to control the setting. Does that have anything to do with it?

    Thanks for the help
     
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    Fade To Black The Bad Ass

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    Did you change your 3DMark resolution from 1280*1024?
    Do you have any CPU intensive programs in the background?
    Try and disable Kaspersky's File Scanner and then do another test.
     
  5. Asheth

    Asheth Notebook Enthusiast

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    No I didnt change the resolution for 3DMark andI left all Kaspersky options running.

    Thanks for the Tips I will try this when I get home.

    What about Vista Aero do I need to disable that?
     
  6. Ufoman

    Ufoman Notebook Enthusiast

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    concerning your sli question...it is not ready as far as I know... end of february if no delay...

    regards
     
  7. suneee

    suneee Notebook Geek

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    The first logical thing seems like the cpu. I'm scoring around 3500 with q6600, and i've seen test with extreme just around 3000 at max. Just seems logical.
     
  8. lastrebelstanding

    lastrebelstanding Notebook Evangelist

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    CPU and drivers make a big difference!
     
  9. Stroxuss

    Stroxuss Notebook Enthusiast

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    Your CPU's stock speed should be 3.0Ghz. I have my 9262 setup with a dual boot config. Vista Ultimate 64 3DMark2006 is 9687, Windows XP Pro 3DMark 2006 is 9824. I've only had mine for a week now and I've using just the drivers that came on the disk when I got it. How much RAM is installed and what speed is it?
     
  10. Asheth

    Asheth Notebook Enthusiast

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    Ok after killing a few more background processes, changing the resolution to 3DMark06 default Nvidia control panel to allow application to decide.

    Score went to 8995 with 174.12

    Then I uninstalled the drivers restarted in Safe Mode ran Driver Sweeper.

    Reboot installed 167.44 from Sager CD

    Killed same background processes and received 8969 rebooted again killed processes and received same exact score.

    Note: When I chose show all process for all users I got all the way down to 54 before I ran 3DMark06. Some of the process I wasn't sure about that I would crash the system if I were to kill them.

    I am trying to get into the 9,000 range and I'm close but struggling when with this machine I shouldn't be.

    So far 174.12 has yielded the best results but only slightly higher than 167.44 with background process killed.

    Any other suggestions? I'm starting to think maybe it could be just my processor. Funny thing is when I analyze my results from 3DMark06 it always says my processor is at 2.9GHZ and Not 3.0GHZ.
     
  11. themanwithsauce

    themanwithsauce Notebook Evangelist

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    You *might* just have odd components. Remember that this notebook was tested to work but not necessarily as good or better than the others. Sometimes a video card just won't go as fast as it should or in your case maybe, just a very slight chance, that your processor does not quite reach 3.0ghz and its FSB is lower too. And maybe, again a slim chance here, your 8800 just can't go as fast as it should. It sucks but it happens. In my asus my E6420 can go all day and night but I think I got a bad 8600gt, it posts poor 3dmark score compared to other C90s with similar spec and it seems to handle overclocking poorly.

    Speaking of overclocking have you considered using a program like Rivatuner or Ntune to overclock? It is fairly safe if you go in small increments and keep an eye on the heat. I don't know what the stock speeds are for the GPU core and GPU memory (both have their own speed and will need to be adjusted separately). That will help determine your problem or boost your score. If your computer seems to crash a lot with even small increases of the clock speeds then you have a bad video card. If it is stable then you should see improvements.
     
  12. wobble

    wobble Notebook Evangelist

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    I believe you should be getting 9300-9400 with your configuration without struggling too much with turning processes off. You might want to compare your three scores (SM 2, SM 3, CPU) with this test to see where you're falling short: http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=211816
     
  13. Asheth

    Asheth Notebook Enthusiast

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    I dont know if Raid-0 setup would help my score when I ordered my 9262 I still didnt have the basics down exactly and read about how if one goes everything stored goes. So I didnt get a raid setup but now I am reading up on the process and will probably set it up tomorrow. I have 2 100GBHDD @ 7200RPM



    Here are Snippets of my Setup and Scores from the 3DMark06 Analyzer

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  14. Gophn

    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

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    That score seems fine actually... especially for x64.

    It will get better when a week or so, when the new 8800M GTX drivers comes out.
     
  15. Asheth

    Asheth Notebook Enthusiast

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    Really? I know its only around 364 short of where it should be give or take a few points.

    So do you think a Raid-0 setup would help also?
     
  16. Gophn

    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

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    no, the 300-400 score difference is not significant at all.

    If you optimize your OS (disable resource hogs and stuff), you can reach a higher score, but there is no need really.
     
  17. NotebookNeophyte

    NotebookNeophyte Notebook Evangelist

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    I think sometimes we all forget that this is just a number lol...it is a representation of performance under certain variables...trust me I know we all like to see the highest number possible...but in real world performance, I don't think a few hundred points will make much of a difference. I'll probably eat my words and be on here asking these same questions after I get the chance to test my new Sager 5793 lol. It came last Friday and I literally have only been able to use it for like 30 min. so far. because of an extremely busy week with work lol...can't wait to dig into it.
     
  18. dexgo

    dexgo Freedom Fighter

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    my t7600 core 2 duo gets just over 2000 CPU marks.

    the q6600 gets like 4000 CPU marks.

    you get 2600 marks. i believe your processor is hindering you in the 3dmark test.

    but the 3dmark test is stupid anyways because you only need a certian ammount of CPU to run the GAME. it's more GPU dependant anyways.
     
  19. eleron911

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    Point taken.
    Anything above the 8500 points mark is sufficient to play ANY GAME ON HIGH nowadays.
     
  20. Asheth

    Asheth Notebook Enthusiast

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    Thanks Yea I know it is all just numbers or competition one of the 2 lol. When I got my 9262 I was not to worried about it as I am fairly new in this arena. Then I downloaded it just to see what I would get and now its like trying to get that last bit or best performance out of your car once you do one Mod it becomes semi-addictive in a way.

    But thanks to everyone for there advice you guys are really helpful and dont bash people for asking questions even if they do forget the search function sometimes. I learned from other forums about this basic rule :) thanks
     
  21. Asheth

    Asheth Notebook Enthusiast

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    Well after a Clean install and Raid-0 setup I now score 9405 :) So I guess there is a real advantage to a Raid-0.

    For Backup purposes I have a MY Book 500GB External and Im running Norton Ghost. So I dont have to worry about the Raid Array failing and losing everything.
     
  22. wobble

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    Perhaps, but I think it's more likely that there was something wrong with the initial install.

    Anyway... glad you got it solved.
     
  23. mlongrie

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    I'm planning on doing a reinstall to solve my clevo troubles. I'm getting a 7400ish score with 3dmark06, and the wprime time is much higher than what others are posting. I've poked around in the bios and such and I haven't seen anything blaringly incorrect. I'm still reading and trying to figure out whats wrong.

    I'm concidering updating the bios when I do a new vista install. It has to be done to run a sli configuration anyways.

    If you get a second could you post your bios version?
     
  24. dexgo

    dexgo Freedom Fighter

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    I have been seeing alot of people getting low 3dmark scores. I myself.

    see my other posts.

    it seems that DELL with weaker processor vs the quad in SINGLE CARD mode.

    and in VISTA x64 beats us with the same clocks.

    in sm2.0 and 3.0, but not CPU of course.

    but even with the faster CPU, their cards are clearly better.

    same drivers too btw.

    I have tested this a few times and came to this conclusion.

    Clevo's Cards are not that good.
     
  25. Asheth

    Asheth Notebook Enthusiast

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    Yea I can do that, I am waiting to see how everything plays out right now. I am interested in seeing what people will be getting in the SLI configuration and if its worth it for me. Price is really not a problem I just need a good performance increase to make hand over the cash :)