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    Need to replace 485M in P150HM

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by Greenbee, Nov 21, 2016.

  1. Greenbee

    Greenbee Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hi All - Ive had great serviec out of my clevo P150HM over the past four years but the graphics card has finally given up the ghost.....dodgy screen glitches went by and finally nothing. It boots in safe mode but nothing else.

    So I decided, if possible, to "simply" replace the old card with another 485M.

    I couldnt find a simple walk through on here so if anyone has such steps that would be ace. Other than finding a replacement and sticking it the correct slots is there anything else I should be wary off or is necessary ? Are all 485M that I can buy going to be compatible with the P150HM ?

    Cheers for the help !
     
  2. jaybee83

    jaybee83 Biotech-Doc

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    to be on the safe side, i would recommend to only buy 485M gpus pulled from a clevo machine :) other gpus compatible with HM machines include the Nvidia 400M, 500M and 600M (without MX cards) series, as well as AMD 6000M and 7000M series. beware that AMD 7000M need a specific vbios to function properly in HM laptops, whereas 600M cards potentially need modded drivers and/or a specific vbios to work.
     
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    If you find a compatible replacement that doesn't require any flashing, all you really have to do is pop it in and redo the thermal paste (might want to redo the CPU thermal compound also while you're at it). A card that's not ready to go right out of the box, as long as it's still compatible, may require the vBIOS to be reflashed.
     
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    If you live in Europe, reach out to @clevo-extreme! He should be able to provide you a nice, pre-flashed 7970m or 680m.
     
  5. clevo-extreme

    clevo-extreme Company Representative

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    Exactly, we have plug&play cards with 12 months warranty, not 90 days

    CEG-Hardcorecustom 》Fastest Gaming Clevo Notebooks & High-End Mobile Workstations 《
     
  6. clevo-extreme

    clevo-extreme Company Representative

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    Anyway have worldwide shipping free.

    CEG-Hardcorecustom 》Fastest Gaming Clevo Notebooks & High-End Mobile Workstations 《
     
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  7. jaybee83

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    seriously? free worldwide shipping? dayum...
     
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  8. clevo-extreme

    clevo-extreme Company Representative

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    Yes

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    If it's already dead and you have nothing to lose, try baking the graphics card in the oven for 8 mins at 200C (375F). I had the exact same symptoms with my PH150HM/6990M. Baked it, repasted and it has been going strong ever since. A lot cheaper than buying a new card for a 4/5 year old laptop. Worth a shot, I think.
     
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  10. darkarn

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    Wow nice, I guess we don't have to use eBay lol
     
  11. jaybee83

    jaybee83 Biotech-Doc

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    that is indeed an option. but please beware that this is a temporary measure at best. expect your gpu to fail again sometime soon-ish.
     
  12. Sanderxpander

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    Stories seem to be going both ways on this. I suppose it depends a lot on how heavily you stress the GPU. But as it's essentially free, I would definitely recommend trying it before spending money. If you stretch it a few months and save your money, you may be closer to a new laptop altogether.

    Anyway, just sharing my experience :)
     
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  13. jaybee83

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    oh yes, absolutely. just making sure all aspects are covered ^^
     
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    I still have the 485M I pulled from my P150HM lying around. It was working when I took it out. PM me if you are interested.
     
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    Thanks for all the replies - have been flat out last few months so not responded sorry !

    Will PM you Belegdol in case you still have that 485M.
     
  16. Greenbee

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    Okay I need 5 posts to be able to PM !
     
  17. Greenbee

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    2 more....
     
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    Final one ! sorry. BTW whats a decent widely available thermal paste for when replacing the card ?
     
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    Hi. We can provide you ati hd 7970m

    CEG-Hardcorecustom 》Fastest Gaming Clevo Notebooks & High-End Mobile Workstations 《
     
  20. jaybee83

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    IC Diamond, Gelid GC Extreme or Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut, those are the best non-metal pastes :)

    Check the link in my signature for more details on thermal pastes and thermal pads ;)
     
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    Cheers - i'll drop you a PM for prices etc when I figure out how. Still not able to at the moment ?
     
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    Update and further help needed !

    So in the end I got a replacement 485m from a forum member (thanks!) all was great. I upgraded my ram to 16gb a month ago no problem as well. The battery needs replaced at somepoint soon but I generally have it plugged in to mains anyway.

    However... my daughter knocked the laptop from a table last week and after there was a code 43 in the GPU. I ran through a few troubleshoots and uninstalled the gpu drivers and download recent ones from NVidia site. However on reboot I cant even start without problems. The main issue is that the screen is now basically four mirror images of each other compressed with crazy colours - see pic attached. I can enter boot and setup but cant make out the characters due to weird display. Is something up with the integrated graphics or drivers ?

    Any way I can boot from usb or restore etc ? Any ideas greatly received !
     

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    A drop wont have caused a software issue, does it happen on an external display too?
     
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    The display was fine after the initial drop....other than the code 43 and windows disabling the 485m. It had reverted to the integrated graphics and was fine. I think this is something to do with me trying to restore settings unfortunately. Could it have something to do with the battery ? When I found the laptop after the fall the battery had come out.

    Can the P150HM boot to an external display ?
     
  25. Danishblunt

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    Screen indicates vram error, you might have broken the card or it might have killed itself. Fermi cards are dying left and right and so are HD 6xxx and HD 7xxx cards, so I honestly wouldn't be suprised that it died on you again.

    I highly doubt it's the screen, since as you already stated the notebook runs fine when drivers aren't installed. Your notebook has no integrated graphics by the way.

    Best thing you could do is boot into safe mode, uninstall NVIDIA drivers, run the card like it is and use the notebook as an office notebook. I really wouldn't recommend doing anything else with it considering how fast the GPU's die on you.
     
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    Cheers for the reply. I totally forgot it doesn't have integrated graphics, thanks for reminding me.

    I'll try boot in safe mode and uninstall the drivers if I can. It's pretty difficult to see what I'm up to due to the screen though.
     
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    If it's doing the same on an external display then the card is likely damaged.
     
  28. Greenbee

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    I can't get it to go onto an external screen. I'm thinking something is goosed.

    Ah well time to recover the files. I take it I can just take the SATA HDD out, put it into an adapter and copy the whole thing over onto my desktop ?