New 120hz Laptops Displays = Gorgeous!

For anyone wondering,
the new 17" Sager Displays with 120hz refresh have beautiful, clear colors.

When i calibrated my display the factory color gamut was the closest match to a post calibrated laptop display ive seen. Very good color gamut out of the box.

Most noticeable however is the crisp, clean, clear colors especially with graphics and fast moving gaming.

Laptops and displays, especially the 17" models are heavy, but its worth it do to screen quality.

Dont hesitate on getting one of the 120hz screens. Gsync isnt needed. As graphics seem to mesh well and tight with these new 120hz displays.

 

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Dont hesitate on getting one of the 120hz screens. Gsync isnt needed. As graphics seem to mesh well and tight with these new 120hz displays.[/QUOTE]

Interesting, what games did you try and what kind of fps did you get to keep it smooth? I'm researching laptps now and the screen/gaming performance is top of my list.

 

Interesting, what games did you try and what kind of fps did you get to keep it smooth? I'm researching laptps now and the screen/gaming performance is top of my list.[/QUOTE]
And most importantly, which reseller offered you this 120hz display option? I know some, but none have them in stock yet?

 

Which model of NB and screen do you have? P870DM3? and the LG Panel?

 

with Nvidia 1070 @ 1080p

ive played Planetside 2 - frames smooth and crystal clear action. unknown fps

World of Warcraft - Ultra 60-120
steady fps

Guild Wars 2 - 120fps

Ashes of Singularity - Gorgeous Crystal clear Action & Colors. unknown fps.

Compared to 970m + 1080p Gsync. No contest! The 120hz screens blow the prior 60hz gsync away with better colors, faster clearer motion graphics, and much better color gamut.

 

i have the Sager 9872S (Clevo P870DM2/Dm3) with the 120hz AUO panel.

 

thats what i wanted to hear, just curious you play some pretty fast paced games too like Quake Live or Overwatch, cause i want to actually get almost the same config, i just want to be sure the display has about 5ms response time

 

i purchased my laptop directly through Sager soon as they were released.

it makes sense all the 120hz screens are now sold out. Once you view one compared to any other prior laptop tech, youll see why..

On additional note: the 120hz AUO panels have a beautiful deeper black level. Similar to OLED black levels for televisions. The Colors are Truly Clear & Impressive

 

i have Overwatch and will test it out and report fps back. im sure fps will be 120 as thats what i max allow on most game settings.

 

How is the heat and fan noise on that model? HIDevolution has those in stock. http://www.hidevolution.com/new-laptops/shop-by-manufacturer/evoc-clevo/17-gaming-laptops

 

haha yeah i'M pretty sure you can do 120fps easily, even my 980m without OC hasn't any problems reaching that fps mark, but you pretty sold me now for the P870DM3, just need a competitive panel for scrims and matches. The 60/75 Hz LG the P77xDM/P870DM series has, is good in color but gsync is useless for me and the high reaction time, namely 25-35ms is pretty hard to not acknowledge for competitive gameplay

 

Thanks for taking the time to post this info.

I'm unfamiliar with any of theses games so could someone tell me how they compare to Witcher 3, Fallout 4 and Doom?

 

Witcher 3 and Fallout 4 are not that fast, but for Doom, if the screen is responsive yeah you can Rip and Tear there with godlike smoothness and no smearing and tearing.

 

Heat appears about same as older sager/clevo models. Nothing hot and can sit comfortably on lap or laptop tray.

Fans are louder when gaming then prior models ive noticed. i wear headphones so not much of impact on me.
When not under load, fan noise is greatly lessened and typical for most any laptop.

 

There is no Clevo P870DM2/3, it's Either the P870DM2 OR the P870DM3. They are 2 different models

 

if the dm2 is different than dm3, than i hav dm2. Sager 9872S to be specific

i was told cases/configs are pretty much the same. but maybe different resellers adjust things. For reference i just go by Sager models. was just trying to be helpful with the clevo notes.

 

NP just noting brah. They look the same but are different internally like they have different cooling and layout

 

I may upgrade my P770ZM to one of the new 120 Hz panels, maybe this year or next year. Should be quite a big upgrade over my 60 Hz IPS (even though, technically, my panel can OC to 96Hz/100Hz) even though I'm happy with the display already.

 

Just noting, the P870DM3 models in the EU also come with the same 60/75hz panel w/ G-Sync. Unless you want to import from the U.S., you could wait until Europe gets the 120hz panels, then it should be available for the P7 and P8 models. Personally, I'd favour the P775DM3 as its slightly lighter and all I dream about is a single 1080 anyway.

 

mmm not really... theyre identical machines, just gpu and heatsink is swapped out and voila, different model name. fun fact: reported mobo model, i.e. when u run futuremark benches is actually "P870DM2/DM3" just look at johnksss´s screenies

 

yep i know, and i will wait but after my P771DM throttle issues, i tend to want the P870DM3 more cause Prema's main rig so it only can be good then but i'm with you aesthetically wise the P775DM3 suits me much more.

 

@Scerate
Dreammachines.pl (also a Prema partner) just replied my email and stated that they will offer 120hz G-Sync displays in 4-6 weeks. Can't wait!

They offer prema's bios and vbios for the P775DM3 as well as payment in Euros if you switch the country when placing an order.

 

Ahh, I can't wait that long. I am struggling getting by with work on a 10" lenovo hybrid. It's killing me.

Do we have any responses times of the 120hz gsync panel coming? Also TN or IPS?

 

I just hope the 120 Gsync one isn't just a silly upgrade of mine LG LP173WF4-SPD1 and has the high response time of 25-35ms

 

I'm pretty sure they don't know exact specifications themselves as they haven't received any units yet, but it should be the AUO 120hz 5ms screen mentioned before with the only difference that G Sync finished certification and is enabled. My guess why only some resellers' P870DM3 models offered 120hz displays is that Clevo perhaps secured only a limited number of pre-certified displays to ship out to enthusiasts who can't wait, and therefore the screens were not available to the majority of resellers.

 

So you have the current 120hz without gsync DM2/3?

 

I'm happy to hear this. I cancelled my DM3 order to hold out for the g sync screen. I think I'm still going to wait in hopes that the info in the quote below is true. 4-6 weeks isn't too bad and maybe it will be even sooner for the U.S. But still, I'm glad to hear you think the screen looks so good. Crisp, clear and colorful are exactly what I wanted to hear. What software did you use to calibrate?

Thank you for posting this. Great news for me.

 

nah, i wait till i have more infos about the 120hz display, i heard that the 120hz ones just got certified for gsync dunno if it's the AUO one tho.

 

Gsync only helps with slow video cards and laggy displays, mostly old technology from what i was told. Gsync will mostly be a feature on lower tiered hardware (non pascal) (slower ms displays) as it was described to me.

As for 120hz displays, the AUO is gorgeous and is the one i have. i dont know the specs as ive not seen any manufacturer/ distributor release them yet.

nvidia knew what they were doing when releasing pascal and the force behind 120hz displays.

Im sure you will love any 120hz display. ive not seen a 120hz LG, but they are good manufacturer too at least with tvs.

 

ive had gsync displays, albeit 75hz and there is no comparison.

the 120hz AUO trumps 75hz Gsync by a wide margin in clarity, color, and responsiveness.

 

any chance u could share the display model with us? hwinfo should give u that info

Sent from my Huawei Mate 8 NXT-AL10

 

AUO 129D i think is display model, but not positive.

 

I contacted HIDEvolution and they confirmed this time frame and said most resellers should be getting it around the same time! Yes!!!!!!!! I'm glad it isn't too long, but the next month to month and a half are going to seem like forever.

 

Hi, are you sure about this "120hz G-Sync on P775DM3 "?

 

I'm not sure but I think it's likely that the screens on P870DM3 and P775DM3 could be the same.

 

Question, I assume in the first post the 120hz screen is the 1080p version. Assuming I buy from a place that doesn't offer it right now, say LPC, should I buy the regular 1080p screen now if I plan on upgrading later? Or are the 120hz panels thicker like how 4K is and I would need to buy the slightly thicker chassis for upgrade later?

 

They are 100% the same, however not available right now. The only 120hz screens in P870DM3 some models available now for some resellers are not G Sync certified screens.

 

Stupid question but thought I'd ask anyway: If you plan to use external gsync 144hz montitor for gaming, it doesn't matter what lappy screen type and refresh you have, right? --as far as being able to get the refresh and gsync to work on the external? (I did say it was stupid question, just fishing for weirdness I might not be aware of). Thanks.

 

Screen type matters, because only laptops with g sync displays come with g sync compatible GPUs. Those without g sync screens come with GPUs that lack a g sync chip.

 

So what about the 870DM3 models with dual 1080 SLI (which is g-sync compatible) with the only 4k screen currently in production as of time of post (not g-sync compatible)?

 

It only depends on the screen the notebook gets shipped with. If that 4K screen is not g sync compatible, the GPUs resellers will put into your system will lack the g sync chip. You could try to ask them really nicely if they would put g sync enabled gpus inside your notebook, but it's unlikely that they're willing to do that.

 

Advertising for the laptop can be misleading then, since many of the resellers claim the GPU is G-Sync ready when it really depends on a combination of screen and GPU together.

If you're right, it's still good to know (although it's the first time I've heard of G-Sync and non G-Sync GPUs of the exact same type).

 

It seems strange, even ridiculous, but that's just how things are for the mobile "desktop" GPUs according to our master guru Prema

 

Yes. I believe that is the case...

Perhaps @Meaker@Sager can confirm this, but I believe g-sync works with ALL external g-sync monitors regardless of the laptops's g-sync enabled monitor/GPU inside.

See http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...upported-display-option.780204/#post-10214635

 

All machines without optimus or with the ability to turn it off support external G-sync displays. My NP9873 with non G-sync 120hz display runs my Asus swift with G-sync just fine.

 

G-Sync at this point is more of a glorified gimmick hyped to no end.

 

I thought it was something like that. Thx for the confirmation.

Try telling that to @Phoenix. LOL!!

 

Ah man, if i could force feed him a 120Hz display with no G-Sync to see how much better it is and how G-Sync on FHD will not matter using 2 x 1080's, i would.

 

Perhaps @Prema has time to clarify this, but I was pretty sure I've read about the condition that non-gsync gpus get shipped with non-gsync displays. Aah wait, I think for external screens the g sync chip is embedded in the screen itself, and only if you want to upgrade a non G-sync notebook screen to a g sync notebook screen, you would have to exchange the GPUs. Is that correct?

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nvidia_G-Sync

Wikipedia isn't the most accurate source of information around, but what info there is in that article indicates G-Sync is a two-step process. The first is having a card capable of G-Sync with the right drivers and the second is possessing a desktop or laptop screen with the right hardware in it.

Quite a bit different than having G-Sync or no G-Sync variants of the same GPU. But then again, I could be wrong and someone who knows better can correct me.