New 2012 Models Speculation Thread - PxxxEM Series (P151EM, P150EM, P170EM)

According to this Turkish vendor:
A P150EM with the following as default configurations

- Intel® Core™ i7-3610QM 4-Cores; 6MB L3; 2.30GHz > 3.30GHz; 1600 MHz; 45W; 22nm
- 1GB GDDR5 nVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 660M; 128-Bit / 1.5GB GDDR5 nVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 560M; 192-Bit -> funny thing is both have the same price but the 660m has 128-bit memory.
-15.6" Full HD ( 1920 x 1080 ) Glossy LED . LED ? Seriously ?
-8GB; 2x 4GB; DDR3-1333; PC-10600
-500GB Seagate® 7200RPM 16MB ST9500420AS

Would be 2,297 lira (Turkish currency) or equivalent to $1,284 without tax

Then for upgrades:
CPU:
Intel® Core™ i7-3720QM 4-Cores; 6MB L3; 2.60GHz > 3.60GHz -> 220 lira ~ $120
Intel® Core™ i7-3820QM 4-Cores; 8MB L3; 2.70GHz > 3.70GHz -> 660 lira ~ $369
Intel® Core™ i7-3920XM 4-Cores; 8MB L3; 2.90GHz > 3.80GHz -> 2,140 lira ~ $1,200

GPU:
I really doubt the amount of VRAM the 675m and 680m have.. And what's with the insane 680m price !

2GB GDDR5 AMD Radeon Mobility HD6990M; 256-Bit -> 660 lira ~ $370
2GB GDDR5 nVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 670M; 192-Bit -> 660 lira ~ $370
2GB GDDR5 nVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 580M; 256-Bit -> 990 lira ~ $550
3GB GDDR5 nVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 675M; 256-Bit -> 1190 lira ~ $665
4GB GDDR5 nVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 680M; 256-Bit -> 1590 lira ~ $890

The rest such as RAM, Screen + HDD we don't really need to care about...
The price for lowest CPU + GPU seems reasonable, but I suppose opting for a 670m would be perfect.
Beside, we aren't sure that's going to be the exact details & price when it launches.

 

Looks like it will also support mSATA SSD's:
Technical Sheet

The Computex page:
CLEVO CO.'s on World's Leading ICT B2B Website - Computex.biz

Here's a P151EM for sale:
CLEVO P151EMÔ¤ÊÛ I7 3720QM GTX660M HM77оƬ chief river-ÌÔ±¦Íø

 

Nice find mate. mSATA SSD speed won't be the same as regular SSD though. Unfortunately we may see the "bad" illuminated keyboard like in Asus G74, which the key itself is not transparent for the light to go through.
NVIDIA Optimus 1.2 , wonder what it will bring

And there's an inconsistency with the GTX 660m. The Turkish site and some leaked chart show that it has 126 bit memory, whilst the Chinese site says it's 192 bit

 

I don't think those absolute prices mean anything as everything looks more expensive over there, even the current models. Maybe normalize everything against the ratio between the US 6990M upgrade cost and the Turkish 6990M upgrade cost

US 560M to 6990M = $145
Turkist 560M to 6990M = $370
Ratio = ~0.4

2GB GDDR5 nVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 670M; 192-Bit -> $145
2GB GDDR5 nVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 580M; 256-Bit -> $220
3GB GDDR5 nVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 675M; 256-Bit -> $266
4GB GDDR5 nVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 680M; 256-Bit -> $356

Maybe something like that. Eh, still looks off.

 

Every piece of reliable info I've seen on the 660M has said it's 128-bit GDDR5, so I'd treat that as a solid fact.

The 675M and 680M seem pretty ridiculous at this point, but I'll be shocked if they aren't two or three hundred cheaper in the US. The GTX 485M was... $495 more that the GTX 460M at launch?

There's no way the 7900M/7800M come out that expensive. This may be another generation of me sadly passing on Nvidia hardware.

Also here's some rumored Kepler specs:



I guess if it's accurate, and the 660M is GK107, that statement of it's performance being near the 580M could be true.

 

Talking about the different speculated prices now is like talking about the amount of rain that will fall tomorrow night in the Amazon rainforest.

Regarding the upcoming 3910XM Ivy Bridge, there is supposebly a bench done by Chinese forum guy: Intel's Fastest 22nm Mobile Ivy Bridge Chip "Core i7-3920XM" Tested

And I can't wait for the 680M/690M? I think, I don't really know, but I would presume it would deliver one big strong hit vs the current 580M

Btw, don't worry about the screens, better options will undoubtedly present themselves in the future!

P.S. Does anyone know if it would increase the batteries life time? I mean IV should useless energy and with the nVidia optimus that is supposed to be fixed, I mean the battery would therefore last longer, right?

 

Definitely looks off, 400 for 680m..

 

That's not so off.

The initial launch of the previous Clevo was:

GTX 460M + 0
6970M + 245
GTX 485M + 495

It wouldn't surprise me to see the GTX 660M, 7970M, and GTX 680M line up in a similar way.

 

Looks like it will be a fun Q2 this year! yay! I just bought my laptop last month and I am excited too!

 

We don't know what Kepler will be in terms of price yet. And you can't compare the U.S market and that Turkish site, the Turkish site is projecting for the future (late Q2/beginning Q3) with those new GPU & CPU.
The only way to get a near good ratio is to compare the pricing of that site months ago
And like said, we are not certain about the pricing.

Despite that uncertainty, the default price is very similar to current P150HM from Malibal and XoticPC, at $1,279 with the following configurations:

Intel® Core™ i7-2670QM, 6MB L3 Cache, 2.2-3.1GHz
NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 560M 1.5GB GDDR5

The rest are the same

 

The mSATA option is fantastic for a 15"

 

Guys i'm from Turkey and one of the customer of this site, owner of a monster .

The prices are not Tax included you have to add 18% tax.

Actually this prices gonna raise when they are oficially relesed,this is told us by the general manager of the company.

This is a little company and very user friendly. They are offering very frequent discounts.

For now there is 20% discount until 31th of January and even 3% discount if you pay in cache or money transfer

this means:

a system with
1GB GDDR5 nVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 660M; 128-Bit; DX11; PhysX; DVI-DL; MXM 3.0b; 65W

(im not selecting other options but leaving them untouched)

will cost you

2.971,20 TL normally

but with discounts (%20 + 3%) it will cost: 2288 Tl = 1274 $ TAX INCLUDED

 

Till next night discount ratio seems to be %25 . Next mont it will be %20 on march it will be %15 discount. I think lowest cpu with lowest gpu with 1600mhz kingstone hyperx 8 gb would be a good option. Than I could spend some money on the 120hz matt 3d screen. 2.369,56 TL 1323 u.s. dollars including %18 tax would be my choice. It is a very enticing price as any other brands msi or asus gaming laptops are around 4000 tl and does not match in gaming power.

 

Cant wait for the RAID 0 option

 

Getting more and more excited for whats to come. Still unsure if I'll buy a new laptop (P150EM) or go for a desktop and continue to use this laptop, but now that my budget allows a new computer, I'm super happy.

 

Just found some specification the P150EM, not much change really, just a extra USB 3.0 port instead of a USB 2.0 and a backlit keyboard. http://www.computex.biz/PhotoPool2/201201/201211713145015652.pdf

 

Intersting part is that even with the new optimus they only advertise 3hours battery life...

 

Which is a lot, considering that without the Optimus, the current model holds up for 1~1½ hour of juice It's impressive to say the least

 

there's no reason to expect a lower launch price, I agree.

 

There is an mSATA slot. As for battery it said "with NVIDIA graphic" ~ dGPU

 

Just noticed the slight increase in the weight too! 3.1 kilograms vs. the current 2.9 kilograms (both are supposedly w/o charger)...
Can't be the new illuminated keyboard can it? I sense something new

 

That PDF has a 2011/08 date on the bottom of it. I'd suggest taking it with a grain of salt. That being said, the created date in the PDF is from 12/23/2011 which is likely pretty close to when design might have finished and initial prototypes started given an April release perhaps.

 

The PDF is from Clevo's P150EM Computex page, it has 2011/08 at the bottom. August 2011 is still plausible, Clevo was showing off a prototype of the P150HM with a backlit keyboard a few months earlier at Computex 2011, and the chassis didn't change much; so they would've had a pretty good idea of how the P150EM would shape up by then.

On a sidenote, I have no idea how reliable this chart is, especially since Ivy Bridge was delayed:

 

I'd be shocked if we saw a new design, let me start by saying that.

As everything stands now, P150EM is supposed to be the strongest 15" on the market (as soon as it releases that is), therefore Clevo might delay it because of Intel and probably even because of nVIDIA. This isn't some game, the P1x0xM is their biggest hit and most selling (do correct me if I am wrong). I would imagine they would put a lot of effort on making it insanely strong and the less we know about it all, the bigger the publicity they get? Imagine all of the threads we are creating, if we had all of the information by now, no speculation would be necessary and we could keep it cool with one thread all along.

Those prototypes might be given out, but kid me not if that would be a while by now..

P.S. Just read the whole thing.. I'm definitely bad at clarifying myself Contrary to popular belief, I don't speak Newspeak nor Oldspeak.

 

The chart is kind of accurate, but the dates are a little misleading. Its not the latest version so some dates have changed, but remember those dates in the charts are when Clevo starts production final version production. So it takes a month or so to get things in quantity to start shipping and then qualification etc. So April'ish is still the current rumor on the block.

 

^^^^What that chart says about the P180HM is NOT correct.

The latest is that this model will not have that GPU setup because of being EOL. Sorry.

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What chance we p150hmx users have to use newer nvidia gpu's?

 

Clevo told the guy from Terrans Force on a conference that the new cards will be compatible with P150HM/170HM/180HM, but if they are going to give us bios updates or we have to hack something together is an other thing...

http://forum.51nb.com/viewthread.php?tid=1134855

 

nice share...

any news for p170em?

 

No sorry, also this thread is only regarding the P150EM

Back on topic, just found this thread: P4G / Sortie du P150EM / P151EM ???

I think it's French, but I used google translate and they linked me further to:
P151EM w150er 2012ÄêвúÆ· 22ÄÉÃ×´¦ÀíÆ÷Æعâ I7 3610QM - TerransForce/Clevo±Ê¼Ç±¾ÂÛ̳ ±¾±¾ÍøÂÛ̳
Which is a Chinese forum or something and they currently talk about the P150EM

 

Thats great, thanks. Maybe we dont need a bios update at all since the cards seems to be similar to current gtx580m. It shouldnt be the first time that a card works straight OTB, it happened in the past.

 

Does it say that gtx680 gonna score 20k in Vantage, gtx660m around 16,2-17k with flagship from AMD only in the range of 15,5K?? weird... If Nvidia's top card is that fast, AMD should really consider to launch 7990m for some bad competition)

 

There's many reasons to take zero stock in those Vantage numbers. For one, they're not even the GPU scores, so making comparisons is impossible.

Second, 7900M is coming from the desktop 7800, so a Vantage GPU as low as just 15k isn't happening.

 

yeah sure, np bro.. just checking coz u were sharing info regarding the new refresh model..

cheers mate, have a great weekend..

 

I'll post something if I do find though, but nothing new no, the P170EM is kept secret so far

 

3 hours is nothing w/ optimus. With Optimus the dGPU shuts down entirely and the intel integrated graphics takes over. All that would be draining power is the screen and the cpu then, it should last much more than 3 hours on a 76whr battery.

Edit: After further review and research, it says 180 minutes with Nvidia graphics.

http://www.computex.biz/PhotoPool2/201201/201211713145015652.pdf

 

We should notice one thing:

Fermi-->shader clock: core clock = 2:1
Kepler-->shader clock: core clock =1:1

So GK107 mobile(which means downclocked) should be nowhere near 580M.
Instead it may be of the same perf as an extremely OCed GTX560M.

 

wouldnt the GK106 be the desktop equivalent of the 680M? concerning the TDP it would make more sense than the GK107....

cheers

 

Kepler is supposed to be a new arch, and generally on die shrinks the parts are clock for clock faster period, so that shouldn't make much of a difference. Nvidia seems to think Kepler's performance is going to be amazing, I'm skeptical, considering what AMD did with the 7970.

 

We haven't seen the 7990 which is supposed to be the bomb from AMD, so they've said at least.

And nVIDIA tends to exaggerate from time to time, I guess everyone does, but considering what they've promised they should provide a solid and fairly strong product beyond the power of AMD's 7990 that is..

I could imagine better clock:temp variation, the current 580 & 590 (desktop version) run insanely cool, unfortanetly they ain't as strong as people expected..

 

AnandTech - Bench - GPU12 The GTX 580 gets quite warm.

 

Anyone heard about it and know if the Clevos are being affected? This is only a link among many over the web, some even say that the April chips will be few and more expensive than the mass shipments on June.
Mass Shipments of Ivy Bridge Delayed to June | techPowerUp

 

I love the gatway p809u fx! My first true gaming laptop! I had a 8800M GTS! It was pretty awesome!
Coming back to the thread! cant wait for the p150. It doesnt matter when they come out as I will only upgrade in Nov every year, though it will be cheaper for me if it comes out earlier!

 

Monster
Monsternotebook has corrected the vram amount.
Right now in the list
1.5GB GDDR5 nVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 670M; 192-Bit; DX11; PhysX; DVI-DL; MXM 3.0b; 100W
2GB GDDR5 nVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 675M; 256-Bit; DX11; PhysX; DVI-DL; MXM 3.0b; 100W

And from aida64 site we can get some info about these two GPUs.
Release Package | AIDA64 Extreme Edition (beta) 2.20.1812
-----------Click for release notes-----------------
GPU information for nVIDIA GeForce GTX 670M (GF114M)
GPU information for nVIDIA GeForce GTX 675M (GF114M)
preliminary GPU information for nVIDIA GK107
----------------------------------------------------------------
So GTX670M seems to be a rebranded GTX570M while GTX675M a rebranded GTX580M with higher clocks.

BTW: I think that GK107 refers to GT660M/GT650M/GT640M.

 

The rebadging game starts again.. sigh.

 

I'd slow down with that, because there's a lot of assumption being drawn from a tiny smidgen of information.

Multiple news sources are calling the 670M and 675M Kepler derivatives. For one, article on new Samsung with Ivy Bridge and GTX 675M.

Every GTX 600M is supposed to be Kepler.

 

I think there was the info on notebookreview about GTX670M/GTX675M having only 70-75W TDP! that could be just awesome for a 15" gaming rig) but even if its true most will desire the top of the line GTX680M, and there's a little to no chance it'll use less than 100W..

 

The 670/675M are definitely Kepler but right now yields are very low because of tsmc.

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I read the info provided by Kevin.

And notice that Samsung NP700G7C equipped with 3610QM and GTX675M comes with a 200W AC adapter.

I think it implies GTX675M may have quite a power consumption.

 

The GTX 675M sounds to be quite hefty..