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    New BIOS 1.00.23 FOR Clevo W870CU

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by The Revelator, May 10, 2010.

  1. The Revelator

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    Pkhetan reports that Clevo has released Bios 1.00.12 (April, 2010) for the W870CU which is said to solve “the CMOS setup screen shows incorrect ATI VBIOS version” issue.

    Can anyone provide any further information about the issue addressed and the urgency of the upgrade? Has anyone tried the new bios?

    The new bios can be downloaded from Clevo at:

    ftp://cftp.clevo.com.tw/ALLBIOS/W8xxCU/W87CU_BIOS12.zip

    Edit: A similar upgrade Bios 1.00.13 (4/30/10) was released for the W860CU which addresses the same issue.

    ftp://cftp.clevo.com.tw/ALLBIOS/W8xxCU/W86CU_BIOS13.zip
     
  2. Mandrake

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    Have they brought back bin OC'ing yet?
     
  3. Larry@LPC-Digital

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    Yeah, let's keep that before them! But I doubt it will come back. That first OC bios was very stable. The only reason I don't have it on mine now is the 5870 is not recognized. :rolleyes:
     
  4. KipCoo

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    So first OC bios doesn't work with the 5870? Anyone try this new bios yet? I'd try it but I don't want to risk bricking my laptop.
     
  5. Daniel Hahn

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    XMG7.c is the W870CU.

    Also this is interesting:
    XMG8.c is the X8100.

    Both infos dated May 7.
     
  6. KipCoo

    KipCoo Notebook Evangelist

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    Where are you reading the "overclocking and hyperthreading feature included."? I went to the clevo site and don't see it...and actually, the clevo site doesn't have a section where you can download the bios from.
     
  7. Daniel Hahn

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    Well as the "mySN" indicates, this is not from Clevo but from mySN's Facebook Site, mySN being one - probably the major - German reseller of Clevo notebooks. You can also download the bios from their site if you have a registered login.
     
  8. The Revelator

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    Do you have a link to the New #BIOS Version 1.00.12GH and EC 1.00.10 for
    mySN® XMG7.c ??

    Edit: Nevermind. I assume you are not a registered user?

    Edit 2: I notice that the XMG's listed at mySN all have nVidia cards. So we have the issue of whether the BIOS can recognize 5870m cards. Oops, the 5870 appears to be newly available for mySN's version of the W870CU and W860CU and is included in the configurator (for +250Eur over a 280).
     
  9. The Revelator

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  10. KipCoo

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    We need a guinea pig to try this bios. Also link to this mysn web site?
     
  11. The Revelator

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    Yes we do. Somebody will get curious enough to try. I would, but don't know how to recover from a bad flash. Going to do a little research.
     
  12. BaronGalf

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    Give a link to download it and I will try it up.
     
  13. The Revelator

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    I see -- the earlier link is dead.

    I downloaded the file this morning. Let me explore an alternate delivery method.

    New link:

    http://www.mediafire.com/file/ygnzyumwzvy/10012GH_EC10_XMG7C.rar

    You are the King. Can't wait to hear your impressions. Be careful.
     
  14. Daniel Hahn

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    We cannot give direct link to mySN because - like I said - you need to be a registered user there to access their download page. I was also wondering why they charge more for the MR HD 5870 than for the GTX 280/285.
     
  15. KipCoo

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    No one can confirm this bios is working and enables "overclocking and hyper threading" like this site suggests:

    http://twitter.com/mySN_XMG
     
  16. Neil@Kobalt

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    I can confirm that we are shipping with 1.00.13 for the 860 and 1.00.12 for the 870 so they work fine! Will have to report back RE the other points.
     
  17. BaronGalf

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    Are you selling those laptop with mySN bios on it ?


     
  18. mussadek

    mussadek Notebook Enthusiast

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    ok,i have tried the 10012GH_EC10_XMG7C Bios on my clevo WC870 , and it is indeed have advanced chipset control Enabled, in it there are HT enable or disable plus Intel VT enable or disable. that is it.

    i used i7 820QM, so maybe with 920X it will open OC option too.

    regards
     
  19. Daniel Hahn

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    There is no mySN bios. Clevo provides the bios. The reseller just offers it for download. mySN uses the same that other resellers use.
     
  20. CarlosGFK

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    Do you also have the MR 5870, and if so is it recognized?
    Interested because i have a 920xm to drop into a w870cu when i get it soon.
     
  21. mussadek

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    at the moment i have 280m and 285m only.
     
  22. KipCoo

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    If it is a new bios from clevo you would think the 5870 would be supported...still not willing to risk it.
     
  23. Mike570U

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    Eh, it's as safe as flashing your bios ever will be.

    I flashed (USB stick method) my W860cu with the mySN bios (1.00.13) and the only downside was it replaced the Sager logo with mySN's. That doesn't matter though because I prefer to see the boot post screen.
     
  24. Neil@Kobalt

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    As Daniel said :)
     
  25. KipCoo

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    So can you then confirm that this bios works with the w870cu with a 5870 graphics card?

    Are you going to try this bios? Let me know how it works out for you, I have the same set up.
     
  26. mussadek

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    yes i do, if its from clevo 5870 will be supported
     
  27. LaptopNut

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    To upgrade don't I need a separate EC file as well?

    My W860CU Bios version says :

    Bios Revision: 1.01.05S

    KBC/EC Firmware Revision: 1.00.06
     
  28. BaronGalf

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    Sure, as soon as I receive my new power supply. My w870cu is dead right now

     
  29. Mike570U

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    I only refer to it as MySN bios because it has their logo, I understand that otherwise it is the same as everyone else's from Clevo.

    No, you can update you bios without the KBC/EC if a new one is not provided. You just have to remember to do the EC/KBC first if is included as part of an update.
     
  30. sp-1

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    I did this bios update a few days ago works fine; no need to worry.
     
  31. LaptopNut

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    Edit:

    Updated to 1.00.13 with no issues but I updated to an older Bios that included an EC update first just in case since my current BIOS was so old.
     
  32. Mike570U

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    Wow, you have more patience than me. ;) I think you could have skipped the bios between 1.01.05S & 1.00.13, but yeah, get the latest EC before jumping ahead.

    On the other hand, I haven't seen anyone mess this up and have a problem.. EC/KBC refers to Embedded Controller/Keyboard Controller. Basically handles most of the input devices and low level power control among other things. However, assuming your Laptop's hardware hasn't changed, it shouldn't really brick anything. Of course newer pcs may have newer components released after you bought yours (Arrandale and 5870 for example) ,and they would NEED the newer versions.

    Judging by the number of people upgrading their bios, I'd imagine that is actually kind of hard to screw up. It's just the end of the world when you do so you hear lots of warnings.

    (Edit: HA! I was responding while you were editing..)
     
  33. LaptopNut

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    I figured a smaller summary would suffice so edited it lol. I have heard of a few who did Bios updates without doing the EC first and bricked but they probably did that after downloading a package and forgetting to do step 1 before step 2. My Bios was 2009 and is now fully up to date so all good now.
     
  34. Blacky

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    Right, so the latest BIOS for the W870CU is 0.12 and for the W860CU is 0.13 right ?

    I need to update the Clevo BIOS thread with them.
     
  35. Mike570U

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    Yes, but the W870's new bios is 1.00.23.
    1.00.13 is lastest for 860.

    Good job keeping that thread updated, it is very helpful.
     
  36. GMS0012

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    So guys..
    I updated my W860CU to 13 and I see no changes in the BIOS :)
     
  37. BaronGalf

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    So no OC or HT option in bios for who installed the MySN bios or sager one ? Someone can confirm ?
     
  38. GMS0012

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    my W860CU has no new option in the bios
     
  39. BaronGalf

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    and you have a 5870 ???
     
  40. GMS0012

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    yes. I have a W860 with Ati 5870.

    should there be new options somewhere in the bios?

    is there somewhere kind of a change log?
     
  41. pkhetan

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    The new BIOS for the W870CU is 1.00.12, sorry i had typed 23 by mistake. I have corrected my original post
     
  42. BaronGalf

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    Thanks for the info.

    Well someone in here said there is a advance tab where you can control OC and HT in the new bios. May only work with a 920xm
     
  43. The Revelator

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    Man, what an adventure. Started by flashing the mySN BIOS to check out the alleged overclocking options included per the Twitter message(s). All went well except that the only Advanced Options were to disable/enable hyper-threading and the option of enabling VT. None of the original overclocking options were included (surprise). The final result was I had the 1.00.12 BIOS, but also had the mySN splash screen. That seemed sacrilegious on a Sager, so I flashed the 1.00.12 BIOS downloaded from Clevo. That was a mistake. The update went fine, but now I get a Style Note splash screen and worse, Windows unleashes popups warning that I may be running a counterfeit version. I follow the links to validate, but it says my Product Key is invalid and wants me to buy Windows again. Then an overlay appears (and remains) in the corner of the screen which says that Windows 7 is not genuine, plus I get regular reminders of that fact and demands to validate or buy a new release. During this time Win 7 continues to function, with some minor annoyances (themes not implemented at boot, some menu choices limited, nothing major). After prowling around Microsoft support, I ended up in the Win 7 forums, which has a whole (very active) section on problems arising from the genuine Windows qualification mess. Some good people there who helped. Ran a diagnostic program and posted results which showed that when the Clevo BIOS was flashed the revised BIOS did not read and include the OEM SLIC Table from the prior BIOS, which in short validates the OEM’s licensing data and therefore my OEM based license. With that SLIC Table data missing, Win 7 assumes I’m trying to install on another computer, and I was screwed.

    The Forum gurus suggested the easiest method would be to get a copy of the original BIOS that came with the computer. Downloaded the only BIOS file in the Sager 8760 download section, but the .iso was corrupt and would not burn to CD. So I sent an email to Ken Lee and the service section at GenTech explaining the situation and asking for a copy of a working Sager BIOS with the appropriate licensing data. I am sorry to say I heard nothing at all back from them.

    There’s a way around it. You can do a telephone re-authorization deal, but that wouldn’t work because MS again said my Product Key from the COA was invalid. Lot of frustration. Then, one of the Windows gurus notices something wrong with the Product Key number. One of the 25 digits was off; what I reported as an 8 should have been a B. Still looks like an 8 to me, but we reran the phone authorization routine with the revised number, and it worked. They did something to validate the computer and, after rebooting, the screen overlay and all the nag popups disappeared, and I am returned to normal.

    As I look back at this, I realize how boring it must be to anyone else. But it’s been a real pain in the @ss and teaches that there is more than one way for a BIOS flash to create havoc. Since I have seen no similar reports, I assume the Clevo 1.00.12 package is fine, but somehow got corrupted during installation on my computer. Be careful out there.

    Edit: After sending another email telling him the issue was resolved, I heard back from Ken Lee at GenTech. He was pleased that the problem is fixed.
     
  44. othonda

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    Man All I can say about your flashing experience is Ouchhhhh.

    Glad you didn't brick your machine. Good work on the recovery!
     
  45. KipCoo

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    That's too bad, was really hoping this laptop would have an advantage at least with the extreme processor. Guess just use the evga el33t utility to oc
     
  46. Mike570U

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    OH! Dang it. That explains why under the properties for My Computer there is a timer to activate Windows. I got worried about it, but when it ran out it just started over...

    I haven't seen windows compaining otherwise.
     
  47. fzhfzh

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    Well, last time I RMAed my 8690, they flashed my bios at Sager side, it used to be a plain pheonix splash screen, after they flashed it, it became a style-note splash screen. Yes, Sager themselves flashed me a style-note bios.
     
  48. BaronGalf

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    So the advenced option show up only in the mySN and not the clevo one ?
     
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    Just to know that the original BIOS that come with the shipped machine from the manufacturer don't have any OEM license; So it's useless to ask the reseller for the original BIOS since there will be no trace for your license. The Win7 license install after the first use by the end-user or by the reseller. So if you ask for an original BIOS, it will be also without the license. Another thing, the flash utilities (PHLASH16.EXE and ph161700.exe) don't overwrite the SLIC table, at least the utilities come with the Clevo Co. BIOSes (Style Note splash). I think that your problem came from the flash utility used by mySN.
     
  50. KipCoo

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    Wait a sec, didn't the previous bios from clevo have the advance options. My w870cu had the advanced options already in the bios when I got it. And I got the laptop before this bios released. Just no OC options.
     
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