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    New Clevo 4K 17.3 inch ?

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by Blacky, Nov 27, 2013.

  1. Blacky

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    NEver mind, delete it.
     
  2. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    Not in 17inch+...
     
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    Why not ?
    They have 4K and 3K on 15.3 inch .
     
  4. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    I guess because they are gaming Notebooks and 4k isn't actually easy on the GPU. They will have 3200x1800 but afaik not on P-Series.
     
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    I guess they will have it on the work station version.
    Gaming or no gaming, at 220 pixel density, down scaling is no longer an issue.

    Alienware will most likely have 4K or 3K screens in the next generation laptops and so will MSI.

    It's Clevo's loss here.
     
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    It would be interesting. But then there are those who insist on gaming only at native resolution. I like higher dpi myself, assuming the os can scale so fonts are not tiny.
     
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    3k 17.3" screens on the dual card models would be very nice.
     
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    I'm waiting to see the MSI 15.6" 3K, we havent gotten any here yet but as soon as it does arrive I'm all over it.
    No real content to view on it yet to see its full potential though, may put some pics from my camera on it.
     
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    They can always opt for a lower-resolution screen, I don't see what the problem is.

    I think it's more of a psychological issue. When you want the best laptop around, you will definitely want the 3K or 4K screen, but then you also want to boast that you are playing at native resolution and you can't.
    So since you can't have both, you just complain that 3K or 4K is a no-no.

    There is simply no reason why laptop manufactures shouldn't offer a 3K screen, or for instance 16:10 screens as an option (this I know is more difficult). Especially since this choice can be left entirely to the system builders.
    I think another issue could be related to the display port. A 3K/4K screen needs an eDP port, which in turn forces even lower/cheaper resolution screens to be a tad more expensive and more difficult to find, since most are LVDS.

    It somewhat puzzles me that Clevo hasn't moved to eDP on all it's models, they used to always implement the latest technology...
     
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    I think 4K would be perfect, as you could always divide each resolution by half. You could use it as a FHD screen or a 4K screen. The best of both worlds. There is that additional cost though... I wonder how much it would increase costs.

    Good point on eDP. They could just limit external resolutions to what DP can handle. I wonder if people would complain about that.
     
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    Clevos 3D/120Hz capable models all come with eDP connector. At least until last gen Intel iGPUs didn't support eDP signal so Optimus systems couldn't use it, that's why they where all still LVDS.
    Some tech is moving too slow, like HDMI 2.0 not even capable of 120Hz/3D at 1080P is a joke...
     
  12. Blacky

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    I know 3D models have eDP, but they currently only have one 3D model. I wished the had a P170SM with 3D... or eDP.

    So does this mean that next year's Clevos will come with eDP ?
    That would be great... since even if they don't come up with a 3K screen, we should still be able to upgrade later. Right... right ?
     
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    It all depends on what support intel puts on the CPU.
     
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    I agree, as far as I know only the DisplayPort is capable of 120hz. I could be wrong though.
     
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    It's by far the simplest way, don't forget thunderbolt since it's effectively displayport can do that too.
     
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    Ah I didin't know that. :)

    So it would the monitor need to have a TB port, or are DP and TB the same?
     
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    Here:

    FAQ | DisplayPort

    IDC estimates that DisplayPort will be on 89.5 percent of commercial desktops in 2014 and DisplayPort’s penetration in commercial notebooks will increase to 95 percent in 2014.

    DisplayPort - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    I guess all new notebooks launched in 2014 should have eDP ?
    Sounds good.

    In other news:
    http://www.extremetech.com/computin...ape-indicates-major-improvements-over-haswell

    http://news.softpedia.com/news/Intel-Cherry-Trail-T-14nm-Atom-Processor-Coming-in-2014-400612.shtml
    - support eDP 1.4 .


    I guess all future generation intel chipsets will support eDP 1.4

    Oh... great time to upgrade... great time.
     
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    Thunderbolt is a native mix of DP and pci express and it can just be used directly as a display port with the same cable and everything.
     
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    Excellent!! Will definitely be getting a 120hz Monitor after I install the 2nd Radeon HD 8970M in my P370SM. :D
     
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    I would be tempted by those cheaper korean 2560x1600 panels which you can overclock to 120hz. No 3d but that's not the point.
     
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    Hmm.. I might have to explore that possibility... not sure if they would fit on a P370SM though.
     
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    Lol, I mean to plug in while you are at home, I don't think a 28" panel would fit a 17" notebook very well :p
     
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    Ah lmao, just a misunderstanding haha

    Could you link me to one of these magic displays??
     
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