The Notebook Review forums were hosted by TechTarget, who shut down them down on January 31, 2022. This static read-only archive was pulled by NBR forum users between January 20 and January 31, 2022, in an effort to make sure that the valuable technical information that had been posted on the forums is preserved. For current discussions, many NBR forum users moved over to NotebookTalk.net after the shutdown.
Problems? See this thread at archive.org.
 Next page →

    New Np8662 with GTX 260M!

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by L4d_Gr00pie, Mar 11, 2009.

  1. L4d_Gr00pie

    L4d_Gr00pie Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    94
    Messages:
    579
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    That's right, I just saw the pre-order for the NP8662 on xoticpc is now possible! I was going to buy my M860TU with the 9800GTS, but seeing now that I can get for the same price a 1Gb GTX 260M and a 2ghz quad-core, I think I will wait till april. =)
     
  2. DRevan

    DRevan Notebook Virtuoso

    Reputations:
    1,150
    Messages:
    2,461
    Likes Received:
    1,041
    Trophy Points:
    181
    moar threads like this pllleeeease.
     
  3. dtwn

    dtwn C'thulhu fhtagn

    Reputations:
    2,431
    Messages:
    7,996
    Likes Received:
    4
    Trophy Points:
    206
  4. jonhapimp

    jonhapimp Notebook Virtuoso

    Reputations:
    353
    Messages:
    2,115
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    cool
    10chars

    no cosmetic change though
     
  5. Kevin

    Kevin Egregious

    Reputations:
    3,289
    Messages:
    10,780
    Likes Received:
    1,773
    Trophy Points:
    581
    Wow and it's less than $1400. Thank you ATi.
     
  6. najim

    najim Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    145
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
  7. dtwn

    dtwn C'thulhu fhtagn

    Reputations:
    2,431
    Messages:
    7,996
    Likes Received:
    4
    Trophy Points:
    206
    Page says ETA Early April.
     
  8. naticus

    naticus Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    630
    Messages:
    1,767
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    What is the 260m comparable to? 8800M?9800Mgtx?
     
  9. Gophn

    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

    Reputations:
    4,843
    Messages:
    15,707
    Likes Received:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    456
    There you have it folks, the newer M860TU revision for quad-core support.

    the support for Nvidia GTX 260M is just known already, no new MXM slot in the M860TU.
     
  10. Bluemercury

    Bluemercury Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    4
    Messages:
    305
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Do we know if the M260 is compatible with the old revision?
     
  11. Bluemercury

    Bluemercury Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    4
    Messages:
    305
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30

    Also i thought the old revision supported the quadcore x9000...
     
  12. Eivind

    Eivind Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    87
    Messages:
    668
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Yes, but it needs a BIOS upgrade.
     
  13. Bluemercury

    Bluemercury Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    4
    Messages:
    305
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    What does needs a bios update? the quadcore support or the m260??
     
  14. Gophn

    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

    Reputations:
    4,843
    Messages:
    15,707
    Likes Received:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    456
    it supported the X9100.... but had issues with the Q9000/Q9100 tests.

    pretty much what happened with the first M570TU revision... then the modification for full quad-core support... making it into the M570ETU.
     
  15. WebRender

    WebRender Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    56
    Messages:
    138
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    so can a NP8660 be upgraded with a m260? I heard that there is a different motherboard on the NP8662
     
  16. Gophn

    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

    Reputations:
    4,843
    Messages:
    15,707
    Likes Received:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    456
    same motherboard, just small adjustments/modification for fully quad-core support.

    same MXM videocard slot.
     
  17. Justin@XoticPC

    Justin@XoticPC Company Representative

    Reputations:
    4,191
    Messages:
    3,307
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    105
    From what we know at this time the GTX 260M supposed to drop right into the 8660 :)

    Edit: Just as Gophn said. Motherboard was only revised for Quad Support.
     
  18. Gophn

    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

    Reputations:
    4,843
    Messages:
    15,707
    Likes Received:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    456
  19. WebRender

    WebRender Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    56
    Messages:
    138
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    That is GREAT news!!! Looks like I may be spending a little more money soon. :)
     
  20. LaptopNut

    LaptopNut Notebook Virtuoso

    Reputations:
    1,610
    Messages:
    3,745
    Likes Received:
    92
    Trophy Points:
    116
    Me too, I can't wait to get hold of this one. I was going to get the original NP8660 but after hearing about this one, particularly quad core, suddenly I'm one of the most patient people on the planet.
     
  21. Bluemercury

    Bluemercury Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    4
    Messages:
    305
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
  22. WebRender

    WebRender Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    56
    Messages:
    138
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Well my NP8660 delivered this week...my money will be on the new video card. :)
     
  23. Gophn

    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

    Reputations:
    4,843
    Messages:
    15,707
    Likes Received:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    456
    according to Clevo, no quad-core CPUs are fully supported in the previous revision.
     
  24. Kevin

    Kevin Egregious

    Reputations:
    3,289
    Messages:
    10,780
    Likes Received:
    1,773
    Trophy Points:
    581
    No Quads with our motherboard Blue.
     
  25. icon007

    icon007 Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    2
    Messages:
    563
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    its crazy, but i love it....still i like my 17 in sager 5793 but can lean toward a 15in a yr and 1/2 from now.
     
  26. najim

    najim Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    145
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    is switching from the P8600 (2.4Duo, 3mb cache) to the Q9000 (2.0Quad, 6mb cache) going to be a significant performance gain? Is it worth the extra $170?
     
  27. Gophn

    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

    Reputations:
    4,843
    Messages:
    15,707
    Likes Received:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    456
    you can probably pop a GTX 260M/280M in that system too. :)
     
  28. Crave8891

    Crave8891 Notebook Guru

    Reputations:
    8
    Messages:
    62
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    Nah the 360M Gtx will be out by then ;D
     
  29. Gophn

    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

    Reputations:
    4,843
    Messages:
    15,707
    Likes Received:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    456
    there will be a gain if the programs/games you are using have multi-thread support.

    if they are older programs and games, you might notice a performance loss... since those apps/games are probably single-threaded.... depending on clock speed of a single core.
     
  30. Kevin

    Kevin Egregious

    Reputations:
    3,289
    Messages:
    10,780
    Likes Received:
    1,773
    Trophy Points:
    581
    A 2Ghz 6MB quad, with no option for overclocking, is not good for gamers. Take the P9600 if you're looking to spend more on the processor.
     
  31. terminus123

    terminus123 Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    4
    Messages:
    766
    Likes Received:
    4
    Trophy Points:
    31

    If you are gaming I suggest the P8600, maybe even the T9950 or P9600

    a lot of games atm do not support quad cores, meaning you will be running with a dual core 2GHz or single core 2GHz...obviously this is not very good.
     
  32. Gophn

    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

    Reputations:
    4,843
    Messages:
    15,707
    Likes Received:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    456
    newer games coming out and being developed right now are fully supporting quad-core CPUs.... like GTAIV and Unreal Engine 3 games (UT3, Bioshock, Gears of War 1/2, etc...)
     
  33. L4d_Gr00pie

    L4d_Gr00pie Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    94
    Messages:
    579
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    T9950 that would be nice ;)

    But will future games support quad cores and make it so that in a year people will make fun of little M860TUs with dual-cores that can't run COD7?
     
  34. Fordx4

    Fordx4 Notebook Guru

    Reputations:
    35
    Messages:
    61
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    Id like to know this too.
     
  35. Kevin

    Kevin Egregious

    Reputations:
    3,289
    Messages:
    10,780
    Likes Received:
    1,773
    Trophy Points:
    581
    GTX 260M is a smaller (55nm), higher clocked 9800M GTX (65nm).

    500/1250/800 vs 550/1375/950

    [​IMG]

    I'd love to try to overclock one to 675/1650/1100.
     
  36. Bluemercury

    Bluemercury Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    4
    Messages:
    305
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Im having a hard time trying to figure something, if one revision supports quad-core and another doesnt i assume everything else is the same???What about bios versions?
     
  37. LaptopNut

    LaptopNut Notebook Virtuoso

    Reputations:
    1,610
    Messages:
    3,745
    Likes Received:
    92
    Trophy Points:
    116
    Without a doubt, I will be going for the lower clocked quad cores. Even if a game cannot take advantage of the quads, that GTX 260M should still give it enough performance. You may be able to use third party utilities to over clock the quad cores to say 2.26 - 2.5 Ghz.

    I think more future games will support more than two cores and of course, games like GTA IV will perform better.

    I see it as less being more even though it is more of less. This one will make my 9500m GS look like an old 386 computer.
     
  38. Gophn

    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

    Reputations:
    4,843
    Messages:
    15,707
    Likes Received:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    456
    here is official Clevo M86xTU BIOS for GTX 260M support.

    Clevo M86TU BIOS 1.02.14:
    http://rapidshare.com/files/208124914/M86TU_1.02.14-Gophn.zip.html
     
  39. Slaughterhouse

    Slaughterhouse Knock 'em out!

    Reputations:
    677
    Messages:
    2,307
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    56
    Am I seeing this right? The quad core processors cost only $5 more than the P9600? That makes no sense whatsoever.
     
  40. Kevin

    Kevin Egregious

    Reputations:
    3,289
    Messages:
    10,780
    Likes Received:
    1,773
    Trophy Points:
    581
    That was Intel's purpose; a budget, low frequency Core 2 Quad. Thus the lowered clock speed and halved L2 cache.
     
  41. Bluemercury

    Bluemercury Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    4
    Messages:
    305
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
  42. Slaughterhouse

    Slaughterhouse Knock 'em out!

    Reputations:
    677
    Messages:
    2,307
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    56
    Do you know if higher end Quads will be offered anytime soon? It's theoretically possible right?
     
  43. Gophn

    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

    Reputations:
    4,843
    Messages:
    15,707
    Likes Received:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    456
    yes. BIOS's are the same
     
  44. fallingcat

    fallingcat Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    12
    Messages:
    281
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    31
    I was wondering if there will be any thermal budget problems if this setup is done with a 2.9 ghz c2d cpu ???

    And also will there also be thermal budget problems with the newer GTX260M cards ???


    And finally - whats the difference between this setup and the m865tu ???

    is the m865tu the system that is revised after this setup ???

    :confused:



    A Falling Cat named Spangky

    9 Lives only ...
     
  45. nerever_kuhn

    nerever_kuhn Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    20
    Messages:
    219
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    the m865tu only has outer case aesthetic changes
     
  46. Jrlrule

    Jrlrule Notebook Geek

    Reputations:
    2
    Messages:
    92
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    Im wondering if its worth the wait if i send my new np8660 back to get the 260m for the price of a shipping fee...I mean I dont play alot of intense graphics games (L4D is probably my most graphical? game I have..)..hmmmm
     
  47. Gophn

    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

    Reputations:
    4,843
    Messages:
    15,707
    Likes Received:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    456
    if you are not hardcore, then its probably not worth it.
     
  48. Jrlrule

    Jrlrule Notebook Geek

    Reputations:
    2
    Messages:
    92
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    yeah but just the feeling I have the newest things gets me excited lol..its weird, I still may consider it, but thanks for your input.
     
  49. Slaughterhouse

    Slaughterhouse Knock 'em out!

    Reputations:
    677
    Messages:
    2,307
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    56
    Shipping doesn't cost much, I say go for it.
     
  50. IKAS V

    IKAS V Notebook Prophet

    Reputations:
    1,073
    Messages:
    6,171
    Likes Received:
    535
    Trophy Points:
    281
    Wow!
    If you can order one with a GTX 280M I'm sold!
    I don't see why not, the GTX 260M and the GTX 280M have the same TDP so that would not be a problem.
    Through in a Quad core GPU and that would be even sweeter. :D
     
 Next page →