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    New Sager laptop buying question ?

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by MadRocker, Sep 30, 2011.

  1. MadRocker

    MadRocker Notebook Guru

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    I am looking at the 8130/8150/8170.
    I need some help deciding what is best.

    Any idea if or when there will be laptop motherboard + Sandy-e / 2600k updates to the larger laptops ?

    Screen: I need a mat 15"/17" glare screen is useless.

    I can not see why I need to be penalized with the 8150/8170 and the defective/wrong default GLARE screen "mat $195 Upgrade" instead of the correct already included 8130 mat screen.
    Same goes for the nv560m + mat default 8130 but can not do anything about the gpu later even though it is 100% the same as the 8150.

    CPU: Thinking 2630qm is a bit weak, 2760qm is okay and 2860 would be ideal, 12 or 16 core laptop would be perfect for now.
    Linux source code building / 3ds max rendering, web browsing / research while waiting for cpu.

    Ram / storage: 8GB is good, I have extra laptops SATAII ssd's + 7200rpm 2.5" drives or can get decent ram later. Samsung 470, OCZ, WD etc.

    GPU: Can not decide between the nv560M ??horrible / okay / what?? and a ATI6990M as with one I can get a i7-2860qm and the other stuck with a i7-2760qm or i7-2630qm. $$

    Gaming: FPS, 1~4hours a day.

    Carry bag: The backpack bags is a security nightmare to travel with. A wheeled, telescopic handle bag would be nice.

    Wifi: N or A+N would be good enough, bluetooth is not important.

    Fix-it plans: Traveling and living in many country's so need something USA/EU.
    Also no indication on websites of yes you can extend your fix-it plan up to X days before the current one runs out for max of 3 years total something ??

    Laptop: I need something that is somewhat future proof, ie: not needing to throw the nv560m away in 45 days because nothing will then run on it or it can not open a web page in 45days.
    It needs to have a decent CPU, good to decent GPU and a mat screen.

    Budget is closer to $1200 but will consider $1500 total including shipping to AZ as worst case price.

    Q's:
    1. Screen, surely someone has a fix for this Glare/defects on the 8150/8170 ?
    2. 2nd hd is there a caddy or is it extra on a capable laptop ?
    Dual laptop hd would be great but not a deal brake er.
    3. Why is there no shipping on most websites, I want to know this is cash out of my pocket ?
    4. Is the 2860qm + 560m a good option and will the 2860qm help the gaming limitations of the 560m vs a 2630qm/2760qm with 6990m ?
    5. Is the 2860qm a $$ worthwhile upgrade vs 2760qm ?
    6. This 2760/2860QM is based on sandy / sandy-e so surely it would run better with quad channel vs dual channel ram ?

    Any advice on a good mix of gpu + cpu + mat screen.

    Thanks for the help. Hope this is enough info.
     
  2. edit1754

    edit1754 Notebook Prophet

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    The 2860QM is not a worthwhile upgrade over the 2760QM regardless of what you're doing. It's a 3% increase in turbo clock and a 4% increase in base clock, plus a larger cache. You'd probably gain a larger performance increase by closing background tasks than you would by spending what it costs to upgrade.
     
  3. KC2PLL

    KC2PLL Notebook Consultant

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    Get the 6990m and 2760QM and you'll be very happy. I will also recommend you upgrade your wireless card to one of the Bigfoot Killer N Cards. You'd be fine with either the 1102 or 1103, but the 1103 is brand new and will probably last longer w/driver support and such, besides just the fact of 3 antennas over 2 for better signal and speed
     
  4. Migrainium

    Migrainium Notebook Consultant

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    quad channel ram? that, sir, is a marketing term used based on used to describe two dual channel sets of chips. Just get 8gb - 2 so-dimm from a reseller and buy another pair of 204pin 2x4GB Ram of the same clock frequency and do the upgrade yourself if you really want 16gb.
     
  5. tbert03

    tbert03 Notebook Geek

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    Like the OP, I'm looking at a 8150. From what I gather, the i7-2630QM is plenty enough. Most games are bottlenecked at the GPU, not the CPU. The cost/benefit of upgrading from the 2630QM is too high IMHO.
    As far as GPU, I'd get the Radeon HD 6990M. From gaming and artificial benchmarks, it's 5-10% faster than the Geforce GTX 485M. The GTX 485M is supposedly 2x the power of the 460M. The 560M is 10-20% faster than the 460M I'm guessing. It's a lot of percentages but I think the HD 6990M is 1.5-2x the power of GTX 560M.
    I'd say it's better to take the money you'd use for CPU upgrade and put it in the GPU.
     
  6. MadRocker

    MadRocker Notebook Guru

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    Thanks for the info.