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    New batch of Clevo notebooks for 2015-2016 wishes/expectations?

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by MichaelKnight4Christ, May 12, 2015.

  1. MichaelKnight4Christ

    MichaelKnight4Christ Notebook Evangelist

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    I got wind that new Clevo's are to be announced soon within this month so I want to know what do you all either expect or wish for in the next lineups? I also want your input on some of the models you currently have and what features you like and dislike and hope will be implemented or added to the future machines.

    edit:
    News from Clevo's Computex 2015 booth (thanks prema):
    shows off a number of new notebooks but details are sketchy atmwe do know some models have g sync and later models will have broadwell/skylake.
    http://forum.techinferno.com/clevo/10143-news-computex-2015-a.html
     
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  2. t456

    t456 1977-09-05, 12:56:00 UTC

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    Platform with X99 chipset and quad channel DDR4. Preferably with majority of ports to the rear ...

    Oh, and if it's a 17.3" or above; 100% sRGB gamut display, something that's a worthy successor to the Dreamcolors.
     
  3. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    High gamut screens do look to start being made so for those imaging professionals out there then hopefully there will be some options :)
     
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    franzerich Notebook Evangelist

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    Remove optical drive for the whole series.
     
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    baii Sone

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  6. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    I'm looking forward to see what some nice refreshes could bring as Prema was hinting.
     
  8. Blacky

    Blacky Notebook Prophet

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    UHD or QHD 17.3 inch displays...
     
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  9. octiceps

    octiceps Nimrod

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    STOP YELLING
     
  10. Jahar

    Jahar Notebook Consultant

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    Good gravy I'm excited for Skylake. Why only an announcement in Aug @ IDF15 and not in June at Computex Taipei if they're going to be attending there?
     
  11. LunaP

    LunaP Dame Ningen

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    Fixed <3

    the 72% NTSC's available now on most models are all within 100% sRGB usually off by about 2-6% BRING BACK THE HIGH GAMUT!!! (SORRY OCTICEPS)
     
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  12. t456

    t456 1977-09-05, 12:56:00 UTC

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    Don't often have use for CMYK accuracy, but sure, if it's on offer ... thing is, the new IPS panels are a mite poor compared to the older quality TN's when it comes to gamut, especially the blue end of the spectrum. Even mere sRGB would be a big 'improvement', sadly enough ...
     
  13. ShadowKntSDS

    ShadowKntSDS Notebook Geek

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    Wishes:
    • More screen options. 4k 17", higher color gamut, higher refresh
    • further size/weight reductions current models
    • magically enabling G-sync on internal screens, while enabling optimus in a way that doesn't screw up 3d, g-sync, etc.
    • some magical external bus, to enable external gpu's, real docks etc. Thunderbolt 2? USB 17? Some crazy M.2 bus + cable?
    Expectations:
    • removing the socketed moble cpu line (P150 etc)
    • refreshing the chipset/cpu options for the all soldered line
    • refreshing the chipset on the desktop cpu line
     
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  14. LunaP

    LunaP Dame Ningen

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    Well then you can already cross it off your list since they're all about 100% sRGB, and I'm not talking about CMYK, I'm talking for actual vivid colors. There's more uses than you might be aware of. + its just beautiful to look at. That's why you find the color low since sRGB means JACK.

    And yes, I'd love to see a true dreamcolor LCD thats NOT 50 pin ( PoS )I almost bought one till I found that. More 8bit and 10bit panels would be nice. I know 10 bit are high end, however we need more 8 vs 6 given the dithering, and on some CAN be noticeable.
     
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  15. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    As you increase bit depth the bandwidth requirements will go up and so will the pin requirements to run them.
     
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    baii Sone

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    edp 1.3 should plenty for anything. unless they go crazy on some 4k up high bit depth.
     
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  17. D2 Ultima

    D2 Ultima Livestreaming Master

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    As Luna who beat me to it said, 72% NTSC is 100% sRGB give or take.
    WHAT? I CAN'T HEAR YOU
    Now THAT I doubt, even though 17" are the best places to have those, 17" laptops are BY FAR the least in-demand laptop in the three main sizes (13", 15" and 17") and it seems people don't think there's enough profit to make such high resolution screens for the size.
     
  18. win32asmguy

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    I would happily purchase a laptop with an 18.3 inch 2560x1440 LCD. As crazy as it sounds, I would run it at 100% scaling. A screen like that would actually be useful enough for me to not desperately desire my external displays on the go. I agree though that will never see the light of day (even as a 17.3 inch model). We live in an era of weaklings that care more about style than performance.
     
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    Xifar Newbie

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    Am I the only one who wants them to make a successor to the W110ER?
    Something 11.6" or smaller with killer performance and a 1080p+ screen?
    I also wish they'd make something with an eGPU support.

    Off-topic: my text box (the area I write posts in) is pure black and I can't see what I'm typing.
     
  20. Blacky

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    One can only hope... QHD/UHD screen will eventually make their way in 17 inch models.
     
  21. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    No worries 4K 17" will come in Q4...

    I just hope Clevo manages to integrate the new 1.4 eDP standard (120Hz 4K and up to 8k) before freezing development. :D
     
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    I can't stop loving you Prema! Thank you very much.
     
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  23. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    120hz 4k, that would be awesome :D though being able to do 120hz 1080p would be more practical for gaming.
     
  24. D2 Ultima

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    120Hz 1440p with two 980Ms would be the dream.
     
  25. MichaelKnight4Christ

    MichaelKnight4Christ Notebook Evangelist

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    Does anyone have an idea when the new announcements will happen?




    EDIT, I guess not :rolleyes:
     
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  26. Ethrem

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    980M SLI still isn't strong enough to push 1440p in all games. There are still games that don't do 1080p@60 maxed out, let alone 1440p/120
     
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    Oh I know. But honestly most of them are either CPU limited or otherwise badly optimized (anything made by Bohemia Interactive, any high profile game published by Ubisoft, anything published by Bethesda). I don't mind the problem games for the most part, but with a 4.3GHz CPU and two 980Ms (or whatever comes after 980Ms) I'd sat 1440p 120Hz would be teh win.
     
  28. Ethrem

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    1440p/90 with some games but seriously, the unoptimized masses... No way you're getting 1440p/120
     
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    True true. But if the 980M refreshes are full 980s, then maybe ;)
     
  30. TonytotheB

    TonytotheB Notebook Consultant

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    It's just within reach for BF4
     
  31. Ethrem

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    That's provided that their Broadwell or Skylake chips don't hold them back.
     
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    Who said anything about using broadwell or skylake chips with that XD.

    Also, in a "new" system, I would expect a desktop CPU config like a SLI P770ZM. P775ZM or something maybe?
     
  33. Ethrem

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    Refreshes will use Broadwell. Otherwise I see no reason why Clevo is releasing a Broadwell ZM system BIOS. o_O
     
  34. Meaker@Sager

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    I don't know unless a game hated sli my tweaked 980m cards did pretty well on my swift.

    G-sync 1440p 144hz + 980m sli at 1266/1500.
     
  35. Ethrem

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    I said maxed though lol. I would rather game at 1080p with all settings jacked to the max than game at 1440p and make sacrifices.
     
  36. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    There will be no Broadwell refresh...for LGA models (ZM) they work via BIOS update:

    https://twitter.com/PremaMod/status/598547311816380416
     
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    Define maxed, you can get almost max visuals above 60FPS and that gives most people a better experience.
     
  39. Mr Najsman

    Mr Najsman Notebook Deity

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    Depends on the sacrifices imo. I could see dropping some Ultra to High and maybe less AA compensated by higher resolution. If my ZM had an option for 1440p Id have seriously considered it.

    Edit: Dont know if this is news but I got wind of upcoming Clevo SLI models with Skylake will have engineering samples "early fall 2015".
     
  40. franzerich

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    I'd like to know if the next batch of laptops only uses M.2 SSDs instead of SATA HDD/SSD?

    If so, then the removal of ODD and HDD drive would clean up the whole chassis. Only thing in there would be mainboard+fans+battery. Of course the whole system would be more lightweight as well.
     
  41. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    It's unusual to have chassis changes on a refresh.
     
  42. triturbo

    triturbo Long live 16:10 and MXM-B

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    You missed the best one of them all - LP171WU8-SLB1* :p Yeah, 16:10 is gone, it would never come back and etc, but one can Dream in Color, no? Wold love 2560x1600 (yeah, that 16:10 again) DreamColor type panel, since I don't see much use of higher res. This resolution at 17" seems to be the best fit, since 1920x1200 leaves me wanting a bit more room, but 4k... What's the point really? You have performance penalty, because all of those extra pixels, you scale down (or up, don't know exactly how it's properly to say it), because you can't see a thing at 100%. So really, what's the point. I see a point if you have 55" panel in the living room and your couch right in front of it. But in a laptop... you can only see that much. Those "Retina" iThings started this whole mess just because they render pixels differently than Windows machines as far as I know. Text does look a lot better, but that's if your OS can handle it. So far 4K in a laptop is just a performance hit in my eyes. If you can make use, good for you. We can all make use of more colors that's for sure. I really love the colors of my DreamColor, they could be a bit more for some, so as the saying goes - Be careful what you wish, because it would happen (but not exactly the way you thought). So a high-gamut display WITH color space control software is obligatory, because someone might want all the bells and whistles a high-end display provides, but not with radioactive colors, just a bit less than that. This way everyone can have it all :)

    * In all honesty the newer (16:9) ones are a bit better in optical department, but those 120 pixels and that aspect ratio...
     
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    1440p above 60hz is such a good match for the high end sli setups where as 4k is a stretch still.
     
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    1440p 144Hz is actually pushing more pixels per second than 4K 60Hz
     
  45. MichaelKnight4Christ

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    If your talking about a machine like lets say the sm-a style models then I can see why you would think this. The sm-a of the past and currently were socked and the replacement that I have in mind will be soldiered on the cpu side yet mxm for gpu. If its done this way then I would expect a slight change in the model design possibly making it slimmer than what was before it now that it has new chips including m.2. Then again as Meaker said they really dont touch the chassis much if at all.

    Now that I think of it I would like to see a follow up to the (Best selling and best bang 4 money upgradable notebook of all time sm-a) models with skylake and mxm in a smaller more compact shell but still having enough room to breathe as well as effective cooling and improved battery life that the new chips promise. Considering the new cpu's will have to be soldiered should be enough reason for a very slight redesign in the chassis. I don't want or expect anything drastically different but to be tad bit more slim than the previous would be ideal.
     
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  46. franzerich

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    I see. Wasn't sure if it was chassis refresh or internal refresh or complete refresh. Now it's clear. Makes more sense they only refresh the internals at this time.
     
  47. Meaker@Sager

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    To me 90fps 1440p with gsync is better than 40 fps gsync 4k.
     
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    I too would prefer a higher frame rate over a higher resolution but that doesn't change my observation, not to mention 144Hz requires a much more beastly CPU
     
  49. J.Dre

    J.Dre Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    I wish for them to keep everything as upgradeable as they are now for as long as possible. That's my main concern.
     
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    But then they won't be selling any more notebooks. (intentionally exaggerates) Unless they get into mobo upgrade and GPU upgrades.
     
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