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    New model PSU?

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by Bryanu, Jun 8, 2013.

  1. Bryanu

    Bryanu Notebook Deity

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    Do these new models use the same brand PSU and same plugs?

    It annoys me how close to the limit clevo runs these things.

    P150SM with a 780 & 4800 CPU = 11watt of power left. Well the screen alone will use half of that easy and we know HDD use around 2w if SSD and gosh forbid you populate all memory slots, wifi and all mSata and toss a Blu-ray drive and some USB devices... Over time PSU generally lose a small amount of efficiency/power. Why can't they just make the darn plug so we can use the bigger one or stop using them to the max.. I imagine the "fancy" model is even worse since it has the extra lights, which is another thing, back-lit keyboard, oh more power to suck lol.

    My current model is having issues now and I assume it's power related. I have a USB keyboard, mouse, sound card and xbox 360 wireless receiver. Ramp the fans on high and play games but randomly this thing just turns off. Turn it back on and it is charging the battery like it had to pull power from that..

    This thing has been RMAed 3 times and each time they have had to replace the MB due to various issues. (One the nic went bad, another a power phase went bad, another was DOA after they just replaced it...) I am starting to wonder if I am the only one that uses this thing full time for gaming and working so it gets a lot of heavy duty use... Temps are always great and I keep the fan stuff clean.. bahh. I want to buy a newer one but fear even worse with same PSU but more power hungry GPU and CPU, not to mention the other new stuff...
     
  2. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    If you are running a gpu oc maybe go to stock and undervolt? Or see if you can keep your oc at a lower voltage.

    The bricks are the same.
     
  3. Bryanu

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    I originally was 15% OC and undervolted to .85 (vs stock .87) and while the card was stable and temps great the card died about 8 months later. I know too little voltage is as bad as too much.

    So this card I am just doing 15% OC and stock voltage of .87.

    I do not do overvolting ever to reduce the risk of hardware damage as the hardware is designed for the stock voltage, not more.

    That said I have also backed off the OC now even but still have this issue at random. The math alone tells you these things are run right to the limit which while testing may clevo and sager don't exactly test these under true conditions with everything populated which furthers the PSU draw. Crummy part is we have no alternative as not like the offer a larger PSU... and any of the larger aftermarket ones either have the wrong plug or are lower quality.

    It's just annoying they do this is all. Why put some things randomly good quality and slack off on other things that are just as important. The 780m can peak at about 122w and the 4800 CPU is listed as 47w. How does enough exists left on a 180w PSU to properly use the system after backlit keyboard, display, wifi, msata, sata etc? With no external devices yeah it runs fine though still pushing it, but the second you start plugging things in you add to the draw. Seems like a flaw if you ask me. The over-strain causes the PSU to fail sooner or just wear out faster and become less efficient but they only have a 1 year warranty like the battery, even though I always buy extended warranty to cover the system, which thankfully I did as it has paid for itself many times.

    I work in IT for a living doing enterprise level hardware and networking security things. This just seems like a company trying to save a penny is all or that doesn't care about true longevity, yet my dumb but still wants the new one lol yet am in even more fear as if I am having and have had so many problems with this one who knows what is next lol
     
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    A card should never give out due to undervolting. You just got a bad card. Or your motherboard had a power regulation problem to the mxm slot.

    The 180w is good enough to cope with a cpu or gpu overclock. Doing both needs a custom one like my dell 240w slim which I put a 5.5*2.5 cable on.
     
  5. Red Line

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    What about the new 330w psu for p375sm model? Or it's just a typo in the specs?
     
  6. Meaker@Sager

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    No, that has been shown to be a 330w delta psu and smaller than the old one.