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    Nick name of Sager NP5796/5797

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by Sunnynight, Dec 10, 2008.

  1. Sunnynight

    Sunnynight Notebook Enthusiast

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    I know Sager NP9262 is considered as King of Laptop.
    So how about NP5796 or its bro 5797 ?
    Do you guys have any nick name for it ?
    :D
     
  2. Gophn

    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

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    lets learn the "real" ODM names first... Sager and other OEMs name them differently.

    the Sager 9262 is the Clevo D901C
    the Sager 5796 is the Clevo M570TU
    the Sager 5797 is the Clevo M570ETU

    if you want a name to the M570ETU...

    It is the fastest single videocard notebook on the market. ;)
     
  3. Sunnynight

    Sunnynight Notebook Enthusiast

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    No objection ;-). Do you think it's going to remain this name for years ?
     
  4. emike09

    emike09 Overclocking Champion

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    Well isn't the queen second to the king? Would that not make the 5797 the queen of all laptops?
     
  5. Gophn

    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

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    for the time being...

    It would be safe at that title with a mobile quad-core and MXM Type IV videocards. ;)
     
  6. dtwn

    dtwn C'thulhu fhtagn

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    Well, just to be fair, the Dell M6400 Covet came out before the ETU and has the same CPU and GPU available as well.
    Not MXM, but Dell's proprietary connector may offer future upgrades as well. So.. fastest?

    Technically speaking, right now they offer the same performance.

    Note, we're just talking about performance here, not price/performance, value/performance.
     
  7. Gophn

    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

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    ^^ true.

    but I would feel better with the cooling system in the Clevo than the Dell.... since the Clevo gaming notebooks have Fan Toggles w/o having to deal with software fan controls. ;)
     
  8. dtwn

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    Just throwing it out there to be fair ya know. :p

    On the bright side, the accidental warranty that the Covet can be upgraded with means you could drop it and have a new one sent in. ;) Not usually an option available with most sellers of Clevo notebooks.
     
  9. Gophn

    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

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    ^ true true... Dell's warranty is quite nice if you pay up for it. :)

    Nowadays I recommend those that want such a warranty for any notebook, look towards:
    - www.safeware.com

    They are extremely legit and works. :)
     
  10. Shyster1

    Shyster1 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    In terms of coverage for accidental damages, a policy from Safeware is most likely a better bet than a manufacturer's or retailer's default accidental coverage warranty, in part because those policies can be customized more closely to the user's individual wants and needs.

    However, the thing to keep in mind is that the policies from Safeware cover only accidents, not defects in manufacturing - those are covered under the manufacturer's or seller's basic warranty. Safeware is very open about this, and doesn't make any effort to mislead on this point, here's a good quote from their website (first FAQ):
     
  11. dtwn

    dtwn C'thulhu fhtagn

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    Ooh, just what I was looking for. I wonder if they do used notebooks as well. Let's have a look-see.

    Edit: They do.

    Hmm, standard perils and accidental coverage sounds awfully similar.
     
  12. plasma.

    plasma. herpyderpy

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    The 3700M should be a bit better than the np5796's 9800M GTX. The M6400 also has 4 RAM slots, making the M6400 "the fastest single card notebook".
     
  13. dtwn

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    Eh, I was under the impression that the 5797 was also available with the FX 3700M. Apparently not, I guess. :)
     
  14. Gophn

    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

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    I believe a few vendors (not Sager, Pro-Star, or Eurocom) is selling the system with the 3700M. Its still a fairly new card so I would wait a bit longer for more vendors to give the option for this system.
     
  15. Andy

    Andy Notebook Prophet

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    Upgradibility in the M6400 is at a minimum. I don't think the GPU is replaceable in the Dell. There is only one GPU option, and no replacement part available in their parts manual. Plus, the Q43 chipset used in the M6400 can address a max of 16GB, like the PM45 used in the M570(E)TU....though reaching 16GB is easier in the M6400.
     
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    No replacement part because nothing better than the FX3700M is available right now? As mentioned, if it's using Dell's proprietary connectors, it may have future upgrades, but since the discussion is about current performance, the two systems are essentially similar, with exception of the RAM slots on the M6400.
     
  17. plasma.

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    Considering the size of the M6400, SLI should be offered. Maybe 2700M SLI.
     
  18. Andy

    Andy Notebook Prophet

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    I was talking about replacement, not upgrade part. What if the FX3700M gets fried, then how is the GPU gonna be replaced, if there is no part available or made for it.

    The fact that there is no potential upgrade path, no replacement part and Dell offers only a single GPU option, shows and probably confirms in a way that the GPU is soldered on to the motherboard. In terms of performance, I would be inclined on getting the Sager mainly because of it upgradibility, considering that both perform nearly the same.

    The + point is that the M6400 has 4 slots, but both the M6400 and NP5797/7 will address upto 16GB because they literally have the same memory controller. Dell just wanted to make it easy for the end-users to reach 8GB.
     
  19. dtwn

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    Hmm, I see. I guess we can't be certain about the replacement of the FX3700M. I would be very surprised if it wasn't replaceable, but as you mentioned, the Dell manual does not have a part number. However, you can't be certain it's soldered on, especially when you consider Dell's previous higher end offerings usually utilized its proprietary connector.

    Just to chime in on the + point, it would be cheaper and easier to reach 8 GB. 4 x 2 GB sticks = substantially cheaper than 2 x 4 GB sticks.
     
  20. plasma.

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    Yeah and the Sager would have to wait for laptop 8GB RAM modules for 12GB and 16GB.
     
  21. Andy

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    Yes, I concur....as I said Dell just wanted to make it easier for the end-users to reach 8GB, though with the steady drops in 4GB module prices, it'll be fairly easy for business users to move upto 16GB.

    We probably might not see 8GB DDR2 modules, but 8GB DDR3 modules are due Q1 '10 (tentative) as I read on Nanya's Technical Announcement Bulletins on their Channel Website.