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    Notebook M570TU That I elect processor a P9500 or Q9000?

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by FUMETAMAT, May 27, 2009.

  1. FUMETAMAT

    FUMETAMAT Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hello that you would elect processor for this portable?

    Notebook M570TU Series, Which one of you create these two processors that he is better for games.
    1---Opccion Intel® Core 2 Duo P9500 (2.53Ghz/6MB/FSB1066/45nm/25w)
    2---Opccion Intel® Core 2 Quad Q9000 (2.0Ghz/6MB/FSB1066/45nm/45w)

    4096MB (2GB) DDR3 1066Mhz (2x2GB)
    500GB (7200rpm) Disco duro SATA
    nVidia Geforce GTX 280M 1024MB DDR3 Video PCI Express
    17.1" WUXGA (1920x1200) Widescreen Extrabrite
    Intel 5300AGN Wireless

    Am I thought in choosing the P9500, that you think ?

    I do not speak English very well, Sorry!
     
  2. Eivind

    Eivind Notebook Evangelist

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    Welcome to NBR :)

    P9500 will be better for games that does`nt support quad core and vice versa.

    The QC will be more futureproof. More and more games comes with support for QC and many games today support QC too.
     
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    Get the Q9000
     
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    and here we go again with the crazy debate..
    I second the q9000 though :D
    If you need battery life & don't focus on intensive CPU tasks such as video converting, extracting etc etc. Stick with the p9500

    If you do however do cpu intensive tasks. the q9000 will be the man for u.
     
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    I would say go with the P :D
     
  6. FUMETAMAT

    FUMETAMAT Notebook Enthusiast

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    Ok, Thank You Very Much For the answers, the notebook I will use it for whole, but overcoat to play on emulators of PS2 from games of PC and Game Cube.
    I do not care about the duration of the battery he goes to be always connected to the electric net, what that the Processor not warm up very much with which the P9500 itself interests me see it like the best choice in relation quality/price, besides that his consumption of 25W is quite interesting.

    I wait for what I do not like of the Q9000 the fact is that one has very low frequencies, good but advice yours.

    Greetings.
     
  7. morrison84

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    This comes up time and time again. People always say that the higher clock speeds on a duo will make games run better. The fact of the matter is that very few games are CPU limited. The true bottleneck for games lies in the GPU. The higher clock on the duo isn't going to be a monumental difference in frame rates when compared to a lower clock quad.

    I'd go with the quad.
     
  8. Deathwinger

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    I'd also say go with the quad for general use. It will be more beneficial to you than the p9500 especially if there is no care for battery life. You're gonna get better performance in games and complex software.

    These days I actually won't mind having a quad core computer especially with the workload I do. However, I will leave that for a workstation to be purchased soon and my m860tu will be, as always, my idea machine and general purpose.
     
  9. charger71

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    I'd say the 2.66. In testing, it still does better than the quad in GTA IV.

    2 NP8662's, same specs, one quad 2.0, one duo 2.66, duo gets more fps in gta iv benchmark. Take it for what its worth, some will argue thats not relevant, bla bla bla.

    If you're running emulators, then the faster cpu will be more beneficial as well.
     
  10. FUMETAMAT

    FUMETAMAT Notebook Enthusiast

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    No longer himself as electing among the two processors, you know some Mobile Processors - Benchmarklist, where go out comparisons among these two processors.

    Me this one costing plenty of to make a decision among the P9500 and the Quad Q9000, to help to me please.

    Thanks for everything
     
  11. LaptopNut

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    That test was a very quick benchmark, I am not even 100% sure that our settings were identical down to everything because mine had already been changed from the defaults and I changed them back for the benchmark.

    Also, you say 2 NP8662's of the same spec, do you also have an NP8662 that is running Windows XP SP3 with 3GB of DDR3 RAM?

    In the benchmarks, the P9500 got 33.14 fps with 98% CPU usage where as the Q9000 got 30 or 31 fps (dont remember exactly) with 78% CPU usage.

    I expect the Quad to provide a more consistent fps during the GTA IV game as opposed to a significantly higher frame rate due to how much CPU time is left over to deal with other events.

    I do recommend the Q9000 over the P9600 because I have already noticed how much more multitasking I can get done compared to when I had a Core 2 Duo. Gaming performance has also been great but that's to be expected considering where the bottlenecks are.

    charger71, please feel free to send me all of your GTA IV settings and your NP8662 spec if you want to do a more reliable comparison benchmark.
     
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    I've already told him do to a FRAPS bench. Both of you should do a rampage in the same area, 10 minute bench, and that would give the general performance grade.

    I'll do the same thing before and after getting the QX9300.
     
  13. stljeffbb

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    I thought P9500 = 2.53 Ghz, P9600 = 2.66 Ghz, and coming out in 1-2 weeks, the P9700 = 2.8 Ghz? :)

    ...I'm opting for the P9500 for now, with expectation of upgrading to a Q in a year or two if needed.

    Regards,

    Jeff
     
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    my mistake, I was thinking P9600 not P9500.

    As for the bench guys, QX9300 I'm sure will blow away a normal dual core in a laptop. I was only talking about the 2.0Ghz q9000.

    I digress though, I dont want to argue through the speculation.
     
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    Are you going to be putting a QX9300 into your NP8662?

    If so, please let me know how it goes. I am particularly interested in idle and load temperatures and very interested in your performance in GTA IV 1.03 as well as Saints Row 2 if you have that.
     
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    It's an NP5797
     
  17. FUMETAMAT

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    I believe that now I am but waverer than before, no longer himself as shopping if the P9500 or the Q9000.
    The P9500 has a minor consume electric, in addition to principal frequencies, while the Q9000 has a principal electric consumption and heat up but.
    But the Q9000 has 4 cores with what he should yield better than the P9500, although its four cores be to 2Ghz.

    do You know some comparisons of processors in which as show up the P9500's and the Q9000's performances?

    Thanks and greetings.
     
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    Thank you very much, I see that the difference is very little, I believe that that difference of performance does not merit the grief the Q9000 since this has a bigger TDP ( 45 ) with that heat up more than the P9500 that only ( 25 ) TDP has .

    I believe that at the end I will buy the P9500, although doubt of if I am doing the right thing I am left with side for one. :confused:

    Greetings.
     
  20. Blacky

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    Given the small difference and that you will be using the CPU for gaming I suggest you get the P9500, although the P9600 would be your best bet.

    Although games are starting to get more support for multithreating and will continue to do so in the future, it's hard to have them fully optimized to take full advantage of all 4 cores like Cinebench does (note that in Cinebench test the Quad was 30% more powerful than the P9500). Therefore I think for games, 3dmark06 is much more realistic in terms of what is the performance difference. If however you will be using other CPU intensive applications you might consider the Q. I personally will always stick with P-series as long as Quands do not become more energy efficient (probably from the 32nm onwards they will) as they really eat through your battery life.
     
  21. FUMETAMAT

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    Thank you very much for your answer, the P9600 no this one available at the store where I go for buying the notebook, if they have the T9600 but is overpriced.
    These are pricing:
    Intel Core 2 Duo P9500 ( 2.53Ghz/6MB/FSB1066/45nm/25w ) + 270 €
    Intel Core 2 Duo T9550 ( 2.66Ghz/6MB/FSB1066/45nm/35w ) + 280 €
    Intel Core 2 Duo T9600 ( 2.80Ghz/6MB/FSB1066/45nm/35w ) + 420 €
    Intel Core 2 Quad Q9000 ( 2.0Ghz/6MB/FSB1066/45nm/45w ) + 300 €
    Intel Core 2 Quad Q9100 ( 2.26Ghz/12MB/FSB1066/45nm/45w ) + 730 €

    I am thought in waiting even half-full of June to buy the notebook, to see if they take out new processors, or they reduce the pricing of present-day or they get new offers

    That he seems you the idea (intention)?

    Greetings.
     
  22. Blacky

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    Where are you buying from ?
     
  23. FUMETAMAT

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    I am Spanish and it I go for buying at one of my country's stores, here you have the link http://servicios.ahtec.org/index_menu.htm

    This one is the configuration of the notebook that I shop for myself:

    Sheet of Budget

    Model and Configuración selected:

    Notebook Ahtec Sense C570TU Duo Series

    Notebook Sense CM570TU Series (Sin stock. Entrada 15/06/09)
    Intel® Core 2 Duo P9500 (2.53Ghz/6MB/FSB1066/45nm/25w) ref9994429 [+1432.931€]
    4096MB (4GB) DDR3 1066Mhz (2x2GB) [+ 30€]
    500GB (7200rpm) Hard disk SATA ref9994950 [+ 90€]
    nVidia Geforce GTX 280M 1024MB DDR3 Video PCI Express [+200€]
    17.1" WUXGA (1920x1200) Widescreen Extrabrite
    DVD±R/RW Dual Layer SATA ref9994556
    Pasar a Intel 5300AGN Wireless [+ 20€]
    Webcam 2.0Mpixels
    Out HDMI
    Fingerprint
    Bluetooth
    Sound 3D SRSR WOW, micrófono , altavoces 1.5W, subwoofer 2W
    Ethernet 10/100/1000Mps
    Modem 56K MDC (V.90&V.92)
    Puerto e-SATA whit USB
    Express Card Slot
    Lector de tarjetas 7 en 1
    Port HDMI / Port DVI
    4 x Port USB 2.0 7 1 x Firewire
    297mm x 284mm x 22-44mm / 3.95Kgr con bateria
    Bateria de 8 celdas Ion-Litio
    Suitcase Ahtec Basic 17 standard ref9991154 (incluida)
    I value included VAT: 2056.60 euros
     
  24. Blacky

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    Yes, that is a good system and the price is on par with other EU resellers. (I am looking at the price without the VAT). All in all you are getting a good deal.


    Enjoy your new system.