The Notebook Review forums were hosted by TechTarget, who shut down them down on January 31, 2022. This static read-only archive was pulled by NBR forum users between January 20 and January 31, 2022, in an effort to make sure that the valuable technical information that had been posted on the forums is preserved. For current discussions, many NBR forum users moved over to NotebookTalk.net after the shutdown.
Problems? See this thread at archive.org.
← Previous page

    Novatech X1 GTX Pro (Clevo M980NU) User Review

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by henrybutt, Jul 16, 2009.

  1. Mandrake

    Mandrake Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

    Reputations:
    4,976
    Messages:
    12,675
    Likes Received:
    65
    Trophy Points:
    466
    If he's not OC'ing the T9900 stock 14K sounds about right. What ever happened to the OP? Wondering if the rig is OK now.
     
    Mandrake, Jul 17, 2009
    #51
  2. JasonNH

    JasonNH Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    45
    Messages:
    319
    Likes Received:
    14
    Trophy Points:
    31
    I have read good things about AVG.
     
    JasonNH, Jul 17, 2009
    #52
  3. Rob41

    Rob41 Team Pirate Control

    Reputations:
    896
    Messages:
    2,491
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    56
    It's low Mandrake. My X9100 (also 3.06) and my 3870's all stock get 14,000. With 280's he should be getting more.
     
    Rob41, Jul 17, 2009
    #53
  4. anothergeek

    anothergeek Equivocally Nerdy

    Reputations:
    668
    Messages:
    1,874
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    It's right on target... enter my vote for the "Stop using 3dmark06!" movement.
     
    anothergeek, Jul 17, 2009
    #54
  5. MrDJ

    MrDJ Notebook Nobel Laureate

    Reputations:
    2,594
    Messages:
    10,832
    Likes Received:
    363
    Trophy Points:
    501
    yup,AVG is good. im running the pro which comes with a firewall but im not sure if the free version does.
    do you trust windows firewall or can anyone else recommend one for dynamite2
     
    MrDJ, Jul 17, 2009
    #55
  6. henrybutt

    henrybutt Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    249
    Messages:
    211
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Novatech are swapping out this review unit which seems to be faulty (not just low benchmarks but artifacting (is that the right word?) when SLI is enabled so will get the new one on tuesday, but am away till next thursday so dont expect any updated benchmarks from me till then :(
     
    henrybutt, Jul 17, 2009
    #56
  7. Dazman

    Dazman Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    166
    Messages:
    470
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    I've found AVAST to be better as I've used both.
     
    Dazman, Jul 17, 2009
    #57
  8. dynamite2

    dynamite2 Notebook Guru

    Reputations:
    5
    Messages:
    59
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    Downloaded avg, thanks for the help!

    henrybutt did you check if there was some programm running on the backround which was/is causing the blue-bar-flashing-thing?
     
    dynamite2, Jul 17, 2009
    #58
  9. dondadah88

    dondadah88 Notebook Nobel Laureate

    Reputations:
    2,024
    Messages:
    7,755
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    205
    use avira. avast will slow down your computer no matter how fast it is.

    although it protects more.
    i'm using nod32.
     
    dondadah88, Jul 17, 2009
    #59
  10. kaltmond

    kaltmond Clepple

    Reputations:
    699
    Messages:
    1,454
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    56
    Same here, NOD32.
     
    kaltmond, Jul 17, 2009
    #60
  11. dondadah88

    dondadah88 Notebook Nobel Laureate

    Reputations:
    2,024
    Messages:
    7,755
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    205
    @kaltmond. nice. it fast and it doesn't slow down my computer at all. but i heard 2.7 is the fastest one but i have 4.0 and i don't want to back track.



    can any one comfirm overclocking on the cpu with this rig????
     
    dondadah88, Jul 17, 2009
    #61
  12. dynamite2

    dynamite2 Notebook Guru

    Reputations:
    5
    Messages:
    59
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    My bios has no option to OC or I just overlooked it.^^;
     
    dynamite2, Jul 17, 2009
    #62
  13. dondadah88

    dondadah88 Notebook Nobel Laureate

    Reputations:
    2,024
    Messages:
    7,755
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    205
    look again.

    if you have a camera can you take a screen shot of what features you have.
     
    dondadah88, Jul 17, 2009
    #63
  14. Rob41

    Rob41 Team Pirate Control

    Reputations:
    896
    Messages:
    2,491
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    56
    Rob41, Jul 17, 2009
    #64
  15. kaltmond

    kaltmond Clepple

    Reputations:
    699
    Messages:
    1,454
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    56
    I think clevo will unlock the multi option later like other products, if now it is still unavailable.
     
    kaltmond, Jul 17, 2009
    #65
  16. kaltmond

    kaltmond Clepple

    Reputations:
    699
    Messages:
    1,454
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    56
    It's windows program? Then useless when still in BIOS......
     
    kaltmond, Jul 17, 2009
    #66
  17. Dazman

    Dazman Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    166
    Messages:
    470
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Really that bad?
     
    Dazman, Jul 17, 2009
    #67
  18. dondadah88

    dondadah88 Notebook Nobel Laureate

    Reputations:
    2,024
    Messages:
    7,755
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    205
    i think it is. try them though.
     
    dondadah88, Jul 17, 2009
    #68
  19. nexuscom

    nexuscom Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    37
    Messages:
    252
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    i'm using norton 360 and it doesn't slow down. Everything is smooth and fast
     
    nexuscom, Jul 17, 2009
    #69
  20. sabricaze

    sabricaze Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    66
    Messages:
    666
    Likes Received:
    36
    Trophy Points:
    41
    Uh, no. Avast is fine. It does not "slow down" the system.
     
    sabricaze, Jul 17, 2009
    #70
  21. dondadah88

    dondadah88 Notebook Nobel Laureate

    Reputations:
    2,024
    Messages:
    7,755
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    205
    avast slows down the internet and seaching files because it doesn't load them up until avast checks them. it's good be sometime annoying. click something and then you'll see the a in the corner spinning around and when it stops, you'll notice the webpage will show.
     
    dondadah88, Jul 17, 2009
    #71
  22. Rob41

    Rob41 Team Pirate Control

    Reputations:
    896
    Messages:
    2,491
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    56
    That's right. :p
     
    Rob41, Jul 17, 2009
    #72
  23. dondadah88

    dondadah88 Notebook Nobel Laureate

    Reputations:
    2,024
    Messages:
    7,755
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    205
    yes use a camera or write everything thing down.
     
    dondadah88, Jul 17, 2009
    #73
  24. sleey0

    sleey0 R.I.P. AW Side Topics

    Reputations:
    1,870
    Messages:
    7,976
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    205
    So is there still a mid-August delay for the M980?

    Congrats to you folks who are getting them now! :D
     
    sleey0, Jul 17, 2009
    #74
  25. theriko

    theriko Ronin

    Reputations:
    1,303
    Messages:
    2,923
    Likes Received:
    4
    Trophy Points:
    56
    The delay is for the 3MP webcam it was supposed to be shipping with, the machines should be shipping everywhere already
     
    theriko, Jul 17, 2009
    #75
  26. dynamite2

    dynamite2 Notebook Guru

    Reputations:
    5
    Messages:
    59
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    dynamite2, Jul 17, 2009
    #76
  27. kaltmond

    kaltmond Clepple

    Reputations:
    699
    Messages:
    1,454
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    56
    hmm.....1.00.01 BIOS has everything locked and the VGA name is also changed to 280M.....
     
    kaltmond, Jul 17, 2009
    #77
  28. dynamite2

    dynamite2 Notebook Guru

    Reputations:
    5
    Messages:
    59
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    Would like to know if everyone got the same version as I do or not...

    edit
    Also did everyone else get a "rag" with it?=D
     
    dynamite2, Jul 17, 2009
    #78
  29. dondadah88

    dondadah88 Notebook Nobel Laureate

    Reputations:
    2,024
    Messages:
    7,755
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    205
    i hope they allow overclocking. the m17x has more features then this.

    i would complain and call and start a petition on this if i was you. Lol.
    i wonder if there is more bios versions out.
     
    dondadah88, Jul 17, 2009
    #79
  30. Dazman

    Dazman Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    166
    Messages:
    470
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    I'll look. How does this compare (USB slots upside down and Euro key) to yours?:

    Core Duo T9600 (will upgrade later when prices drop)
    4 GB RAM
    2x 320 GB 7200rpm (W/GForce)
    2x SLI GTX 280
    DVD Multi Burner
    Windows Vista Home Premium with upgrade to Windows 7.

    Build Quality

    Very nice! Yes, it's a finger print magnet, but I like it over Alienware's M17x as it looks and feels expensive. Mine has Celtic on the back lid, which I like.

    Keyboard

    It's absolutely fine and the location of the hotkeys doesn't get in the way. The mouse pad isn't the greatest as your finger has a tendency to stick to hit. However, it really doesn't matter because I prefer a mouse.

    Noise

    Overall pretty quiet and a bit louder than my ASUS, but the HDDs in the ASUS are only 5400 Rpm, so this is to be expected.

    Screen

    Nice and bright and colours are vibrant. Yes, the screen is glossy, but I've adjusted to this because my ASUS also has a glossy screen and quite frankly I prefer this over a matt finish. It also seems very ridged with minimal, if any, flexing.

    Sound

    Disappointed here a bit I must admit. Realtek sound card just like the ASUS and I find it rather quite. Some have reported the volume as being above average, but it seems quiet when watching movies.

    USB Ports

    These are installed upside down from other laptops, which I found odd.

    Performance

    Haven’t had time to test this yet.

    What I find odd is that Eurocom shipped a European cord with the laptop vice a North American one, but they have just shipped me a replacement one. This also happened to Nexuscom on this site. In addition to this, I have the sign for the Euro next to the dollar sign on the keyboard. So this came from overseas for sure, so I’m scratching my head on this one.

    Overall, I really like it! Better not be preproduction.
     
    Dazman, Jul 17, 2009
    #80
  31. dondadah88

    dondadah88 Notebook Nobel Laureate

    Reputations:
    2,024
    Messages:
    7,755
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    205
    you don't like the sound on it. i love the sound on the sager np9262 alot better then my whitebook by far. it can be better though.
     
    dondadah88, Jul 17, 2009
    #81
  32. kaltmond

    kaltmond Clepple

    Reputations:
    699
    Messages:
    1,454
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    56
    Preproduction should have english keyboard, not with that Euro. And Eurocom sometimes gets their products from other sources like europe.
     
    kaltmond, Jul 17, 2009
    #82
  33. Dazman

    Dazman Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    166
    Messages:
    470
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Well it's funny the USB ports are upside down.
     
    Dazman, Jul 17, 2009
    #83
  34. kaltmond

    kaltmond Clepple

    Reputations:
    699
    Messages:
    1,454
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    56
    I think it's normal, same like mine also 57RU and 86TU.
     
    kaltmond, Jul 17, 2009
    #84
  35. Dazman

    Dazman Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    166
    Messages:
    470
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Sound is only slightly louder on movies and the volume is cranked.
     
    Dazman, Jul 17, 2009
    #85
  36. Dazman

    Dazman Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    166
    Messages:
    470
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Dazman, Jul 17, 2009
    #86
  37. dynamite2

    dynamite2 Notebook Guru

    Reputations:
    5
    Messages:
    59
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    I live/bought mine in/from Euro(Ger). ^^

    USB ports on the left side? They are not upside down on mine.

    Upgraded to QX9300 ES (Core 2 Duo Prozessor P8700)
    4GB RAM
    1x 320GB 7200
    1x 400GB 5400
    SLI GTX 280m
    DVD Multi Burner
    Win7 RC 7100 (newer version didnt want to work when I tried to install)

    Built Quality
    Nice.

    Keyboard
    Gives kind of in.. especially the part which separates Keyboard from Hotkeys is pretty bad made. Can provide a pic later, maybe.

    Noise
    Okay?!

    Screen
    Decent!

    Sound
    I use headphones, all fine. Have to agree the "boxes" are a bit quiet.

    Performance
    So far all good.

    I am a bit disappointed about the reseller. When I upgraded to a better CPU I noticed the fan of the CPU had no screws in (was lose).
    On both GPUs no heatsink-paste...

    Overall, I like it. My first Notebook.
    and sorry for the bad review, haha.
     
    dynamite2, Jul 17, 2009
    #87
  38. Dazman

    Dazman Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    166
    Messages:
    470
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    My USB ports are fine. Man I was attacked so much I'm a basket case.

    Any way flex on the keyboard is very minimal unless you force down really hard on it.
     
    Dazman, Jul 17, 2009
    #88
  39. Rob41

    Rob41 Team Pirate Control

    Reputations:
    896
    Messages:
    2,491
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    56
    Sounds good. I'll start using Vantage when it's free. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

    Until then I'll stick with "Real world gaming".
     
    Rob41, Jul 17, 2009
    #89
  40. sleey0

    sleey0 R.I.P. AW Side Topics

    Reputations:
    1,870
    Messages:
    7,976
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    205
    The trial is free.....
     
    sleey0, Jul 17, 2009
    #90
  41. Rob41

    Rob41 Team Pirate Control

    Reputations:
    896
    Messages:
    2,491
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    56
    That's true, but with the free version of Vantage, you can only run it once.

    Futuremark says you can run it as much as you want but all runs after the first won't display a score. Hmm, isn't the score the whole point of running it?
     
    Rob41, Jul 17, 2009
    #91
  42. Quadzilla

    Quadzilla The eye is watching you

    Reputations:
    7,074
    Messages:
    8,376
    Likes Received:
    94
    Trophy Points:
    216
    Yeah you get one shot at running it and thats it .

    I got the basic version just because i used it so much but i can understand people not wanting to pay for benchmarking software as theres tons of other apps/demos out there that are free .
     
    Quadzilla, Jul 17, 2009
    #92
  43. Mandrake

    Mandrake Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

    Reputations:
    4,976
    Messages:
    12,675
    Likes Received:
    65
    Trophy Points:
    466
    I think there are more AW owners posting in this thread. lol! I bought Vantage ran it million times already. I'm taking a break until I see this system get higher scores.
     
    Mandrake, Jul 17, 2009
    #93
  44. Dazman

    Dazman Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    166
    Messages:
    470
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Here's my scores. One is 3D Mark and one is vantage.
     
    Dazman, Jul 17, 2009
    #94
  45. Mandrake

    Mandrake Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

    Reputations:
    4,976
    Messages:
    12,675
    Likes Received:
    65
    Trophy Points:
    466
    Plan on pushing it?
     
    Mandrake, Jul 17, 2009
    #95
  46. sleey0

    sleey0 R.I.P. AW Side Topics

    Reputations:
    1,870
    Messages:
    7,976
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    205
    What?

    I have run my trial vantage like 10 times now :) lol

    Anyway, a lot of ppl want to see 3dm06 die but I don't care. It's still nice to see different results from different benchmarks.
     
    sleey0, Jul 18, 2009
    #96
  47. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

    Reputations:
    3,973
    Messages:
    13,930
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    455
    wonder why sleey0
     
    The_Moo™, Jul 18, 2009
    #97
  48. dynamite2

    dynamite2 Notebook Guru

    Reputations:
    5
    Messages:
    59
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    So I was running that 3dmark thing.. and my screen started showing those blue bars flashing all over the montior (cant explain it better..). Is that normal? I remember henrybutt having the same problem but I didnt find anything which helped.
    Do I have to call the reseller and tell them that they blow for installing a bad gpu? =(


    Also the 186.03 driver is weird. When I press the rightmousebutton on the desktop it takes around 5 secs to open the menu. If I then press the nvidia systemmanager it takes another 5sec to open that.

    When I used the 179.79 version it instantly opened the menu.. and the systemmanager. Whats wrong ??

    Edit
    I was searching for a solution for this flickering in google and I found a thread which someone suggested to take of the "gpu-bridge" (I hope that is the right word...). Another guy in the same thread wrote that he used 2 bridges and it stopped flickering. Now Im confused.. :D
     
    dynamite2, Jul 18, 2009
    #98
← Previous page