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    Nvidia 280 in 570RU?

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by skeezix, Oct 28, 2009.

  1. skeezix

    skeezix Notebook Consultant

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    In the 'legal and business practice' thread, it was noted that the guy was promised by Eurocom at Nvidia 280m in his M570, and her got the 9800M gtx instead.

    Aside from all the thread details, the other thing that caught my eye was the M570 housing a 280m;

    I had thought that no one had the BIOS that coudl support those cards in the M570 (2 year old now!) machines, and we were capped at 9800M GTX. ie: Thermal budget and connector are fine for the 280m, but the BIOS was the limit.

    Is this nolonger true?

    I've got an MP5790 / M570RU from xoticpc, and I upgraded it to the 8800M GTX. It woudl be a significantg update to the 280m GTX as I understand it, so if I can do it..

    1) where do I get BIOS?
    2) is it a worthy upgrade in GPU?
    3) I've got the newer back panel and heatpipe from Sager when I got the 8800gtx, so I'm good for heat dissipation?

    Thanks!

    jeff
     
  2. rarden30mm

    rarden30mm Notebook Consultant

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    well if it is true thats what im gonna do,how ever is it a fact that our machines can take an 9800m gtx?Has anyone done so,What cpu have u got installed Skeezix as a lower one may bottle neck the gpu
     
  3. skeezix

    skeezix Notebook Consultant

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    CPU bottleneck is rarely an issue, but depends on the game of course.

    I've running an X9000 these days (3GHz I think I'm at these days), but was on the T7700 (2.4?) I think before.

    jeff
     
  4. skeezix

    skeezix Notebook Consultant

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    Anyone? A year ago it was 'no way, can't do, they'll never make a BIOS' :)
     
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    If a guy was able to cram a GTX 280 in his old m15x, I'm sure you should be able to do so in your M570RU... you may have to do a copper mod or something, though... or "flashing the bios" which I know NOTHING about.
     
  6. skeezix

    skeezix Notebook Consultant

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    Updating the BIOS is a piece of cake; the trick is in having the BIOS in the first place .. it is some voodoo in modding the BIOS in non-trivial ways (repacking art is one thing, but this would be another.) The BIOS has to recognize the MXM paramaters before allowing it into the system (I had the problem where I got the new GPU but no BIOS was shipped with it; had a lot of misery to get up and going that night, what with having to find the appropriate BIOS, then re-authorize Windows (!) on a weekend..)

    So if someone has a BIOS for the M570RU for the card, we're good; otherwise, not good :)

    If its good, that would be _very_ good news to a lot of people .. push back the upgrade cycle another year or two :)

    jeff
     
  7. Gophn

    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

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    I have been trying to figure out how to mod the Clevo BIOS's properly.

    My programming skills are not that great... since I was only able to disable and enable some hidden BIOS options in a few Clevo BIOS's.
     
  8. skeezix

    skeezix Notebook Consultant

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    Shameless bump? This is really a very interesting topic .. someone know for sure?

    jeff
     
  9. Soviet Sunrise

    Soviet Sunrise Notebook Prophet

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    Nobody has put the GTX 280M into their M570RU yet, but I'm pretty sure it will work.
     
  10. naticus

    naticus Notebook Deity

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    would it really be worth the upgrade 8800-280? Maybe a 15% increase in frames.
     
  11. skeezix

    skeezix Notebook Consultant

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    As always depends on cost versus disposable income :)

    Soviet -- I'm pretty sure it'd physically work, but the BIOS is the question; someone would need to hack one together, and thats a right pita :/

    naticus -- any idea how much a 280 costs?

    justin didn't reply to me yet :)

    jeff
     
  12. Soviet Sunrise

    Soviet Sunrise Notebook Prophet

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    If the M570RU can take the 9800M GTX, then it can take the GTX 280M. All the G92's share the same microcode as they are all the same chip with shaders lasered on the lower models. This is also regardless of 65nm or 55nmm fab.

    RJTech is selling the GTX 280M as a complete kit for ~$600.