Nvidia 40nm

Oops, yeah, 38w. That is really amazing nonetheless.

The mobile 4850 is not 25w bb.

 

What TDP are the 9800M GT? Is it 75W?

Congrats on your new comp Kevin. I have posted a HDtune test in the owners lounge thread on my 7200.4 500gb.

 

Wait, if its not 25w then do you know what it is? I just need a darned low TDP graphics solution to suffice my gaming + battery life desire.
If the GTS 250m can be overclocked to give similar specs to the GTS 260m then i will love it because 28W TDP is ALOT less than the 75W on the gtx 260m which has a TDP of 75W. 28W is 2.67x less compared to the gtx 260m. So im so happy

According to notebookcheck its supposed to be 65W

 

The 9800M GT is 65w.

This chart displays the Mobility 4000 series:



The 4860 is likely in the range of the GTS 260M and 4670.

 

yeah kevin i was looking in your sig and i saw it. congrats. how do you like it.

i'm looking for another card. is it noticable enough.

 

now im really excited for the gts 250 and 260

GO LOW TDP! Battery life + good gamer solution up ahead?

 

i like the lower tdp so i can overclock and push them father for benchmarking.

 

I just installed Win 7 and haven't had time to do anything yet. I'll let you know.

 

I just hope Clevo will properly support it. My fear is that they will just decide to give these a go on the new W series W870 and W860 and forget about previous models.

Oh well, if that happens, I will just have to fallow Cookie and start a thread on M570ETU to W870 mod ).

 

Unfortunately that's not going to be possible as the screen/chassis are a slightly different size

 

It's a bit above. Final TDP for the 4860 is 44w I believe. The 4850 is about 50-60w

 

Where did you find the 4860 TDP?

 

The 40nm cards are now official on Nvidia's website:
http://www.nvidia.com/object/geforce_m_series.html

Anyway, Nvidia says that these new cards have already been awarded in more than 100 notebook designs. This means, that in the next month there should be a flood of notebooks with these cards. It also makes sense because at 40nm they should be damn cheap.

Do you have detailed schematics of the chassis? The screen shouldn't be a problem.

 

I remember reading on this on a Chinese/Taiwanese website that discussed the RV740/40nm process. I just tried googling it like I did last time, but it's either not there or the page has been updated. They did say in CES that the target was 40w, but usually the final/actual spec is a bit higher than the target spec.

I read the info they have on nVidia's site. One thing I noticed is how they're advertising MXM 3.0 type B for the higher end cards (GTS 160M and up). This is a good thing, if they can push it harder. They have more control over the high end market and even ATi is following suit with MXM 3.0 cards.

 

i am glad i didn't place an order on np9280 last month.
i think i will wait till next spring and buy one. hopefully they release
either 35nm cpu or i7 mobile and decent 300 series mobile gpu by then
for $2500. guess my gateway have to hold on just a little longer.

 

With all that said above, main question for all of us current Clevo platform owners is MXM compatability, which is unlikely. But keep us posted, senior geeks, one never knows :]

Also, what do you thnk ultiamtely will be faster: GTS260m(38w) or current GTX260m(75w!)? First has 128bit but DDR5, second is 256bit but DDR3. Keep in mind that GTS is 96pipelines while GTX is 112pipelines.

But then again, possibility for OC of the first one might be higher. Low TDP is respectable indeed.

Cheers,

 

I would expect the insane clocks of the GTS to overcome the 16 pipeline difference. Notice that Nvidia isn't mentioning the GTX 260M anymore. The GTS is likely its replacement.

 

those cards just came out to.

the only way it's going to out perform the 256bit bus, is the memory is going to have to be highly clocked.

 

Hard to tell so far, I thought high memory clock was negated by 128bit BUS. So all we have left is its OC potential via low wattage. So was wondering how much extra pipelones affect the perfomance. Will wait and see, I guess.

 

well no we can compare the 4770 vs the 4850 vs the 4870.

 

u make me excited for the gts 260m

 

No, but the new unit is 16x9, so should be wider and not as tall as the current 16x10 version...

Also, the hinge design is different, so other internals may also differ.

 

I've noticed that but I still hope there will be some compatibility between designs. Only final design dimensions will tell for sure. Besides, 16x9 sucks .... big time I still don't understand why they are switching to this . It feels almost like a conspiracy as all manufacturers switch to 16x9. Maybe it's cheaper to make.

 

I don't have a problem with 16:9 ratio, personally. I assumed the push to a wider aspect ratio had to do with the prevalence of video on the internet. Assuming it is a high resolution screen, are you really going to miss the vertical lines that much? I mean 1920x1200 vs 1920x1080, thats plenty of vertical real estate for me. If you can put up with 1280x800 then surely 1366x768 isn't going to make that big of a difference.

 

Nvidia lists the GTX 260M at the Enthusiast level and the GTS 260M at the Performance level on their GPU chart for notebooks so it looks like Nvidia has a specific place for each card in their GPU hierarchy.

 

im willing to bet they'll be close in terms of performance. Maybe a slight overclock will bring values to the gtx 260m

 

...and a slight overclock on GTx 260m's part will bring it further away from the O/Ced GTS 260m.

 

true, but at close to 50% draw power of the original gtx 260m, i guess some will be willing to part with some performance.

Oh wait i just found this picture that shows the gtx 260m emerges as the winner of the two. So 14-15% less performance for 50% less TDP. Sounds fair.

 

so how does the gtx 260m compare to the gts 260m?

edit: oops, did not read post above me. *facepalm*

 

They go from directx 10 to 10.1? Why bother?
Win7 is around the corner (RC1 is here)... Where's DX11?

 

Right. Lesser heat dissipation too. Good times ahead for 15" laptops. Better for desktop replacement counterparts. Looks like core i7 + SLI GT200m would not seem far off.

 

I believe that too, and when a monster with i7 and new gpu SLI will come out.. I'll be there. Maybe is going to be late 2010 but I bet I can keep up well with my XPS until that.

 

I was wondering if any of the Clevo / Sager resellers on this forum know anything about Clevo's support for these new 40nm Nvidia cards. I understand they can't give many details, but a small hint would be appreciated. Thank you.

 

This is all probably speculation at this point... but does anyone have information on when these cards will start to show up in laptops (based on previous NVIDIA announcements maybe)?

 

Popped in to see if there's any more info. Guess not yet. *sigh*

 

Only new "power saver" average-poor performers announced for now..
I wanna see a new monster 40nm that will actually be significantly better than the current 280m (one thats actually based on the gt200 series) or a gx2 mobile one (though that is very unlikely).

 

From Fudzilla:

"Apparently Nvidia finally realized that ATI was right all along, and that DirectX 10.1 is the way to go. Naturally, when the company gets ready, it will launch its DirectX 11 mobile parts, but this won’t happen before sometimes in 2010, probably nine months or a year from now. "

Just as I said in another thread. Spring 2010 for Directx 11 in notebooks.

 

Grrrr, a year from now.
I want it yesterday. LOL