Nvidia GeForce Go 8800 in the NP9260?

Does anyone have any insight into the possibilities of actually seeing Dual PCI Express 16x Nvidia GeForce Go 8800 graphics cards into the Clevo such as the NP9260 from Sager for example? It would be wicked to see (and I would buy it on the spot) a Sager NP9260 with all the "bells and whistles" AND these cards (mentioned) and maybe a quad core to top it all off. I read the " teaser" that just drove me crazy, (ok maybe too late for that) but wow! Talk about sick, aye?

 

talk about HEAT lol..it would like have to come with an external notebook cooler with like air conditioning

 

I read somewhere on here a day or so ago that the 2nd PCI-E slot will run in 4x only... might be something to watch. Check the source if you are phased by this information, don't take my word for it, I just know I read it on here.

Slot 1 - 16x
Slot 2 - 4x

 

Both of your questions (video card and Quad) have already been answered in this Forum.

Please do a search before starting a new thread...it saves you and everyone here time.

 

Actually see means (see it offered) I said "Does anyone have any insight into the possibilities of actually seeing Dual PCI Express 16x Nvidia GeForce Go 8800 graphics cards into the Clevo such as the NP9260 from Sager for example? It would be wicked to see (and I would buy it on the spot) a Sager NP9260 with all the "bells and whistles" AND these cards (mentioned) and maybe a quad core to top it all off. I read the "teaser" that just drove me crazy, (ok maybe too late for that) but wow! Talk about sick, aye?
The part above and I quote "I read the "teaser"" was here in this forum. It doesn't say who actually offers it PUT into the NP9260. One thread I read was it was offered by Xocticpc but I haven’t found it, nor anyone actually offering the 8800's in sli or even alone in the 9260. The scaled down version on the santa rosa (which isn't out yet either) with a 8800 was read also. So, sorry to waste anyone’s time. But please don't jump to conclusions as the possibilities of you not understanding my question, or me not stating the question correctly (either way). I am looking for the 9260 (or?) that might have all of the above. So actually my questions have NOT been answered in this Forum, but if they have, how about pointing out to us all, WHERE? And do you treat all your prospective customers this way? Geezzze. Sigh….

 

So far the 8800's havent been confirmed in the 9260.

The arrival date is coming soon and more information will be available once it arrives and more extensive testing is done with the machine including the Quad Core Q series processors.

 

Thank you Justin, that is what I wanted to know.

 

I tend not to post, just read the forum, was getting ready to purchase a 5760 from powernotebooks.com, not sure I will now, I might get lectured if I have a dumb question or make a mistake.

 

Donald didn't mean to hurt your feelings or anything. I would have made the same comment because while we encourage members to ask questions, it would be more beneficial for the other members and you if you do a search beforehand. That way we reduce redundancy and you get answers faster.

 

Understood, but he absolutely did not hurt my feelings, I have not contributed anything to this thread , just an observation , if I have to shell out over $2k for anything, I tend to look at worst case scenario's, in this instance I saw no help offered to the original poster from a vendor, where other non-vendors did try and help answer the question. Since I assume its in his best buisiness interest to help, it just seemed odd, thats all, i.e., would I get the same types of response if ordering a laptop from him, i.e. "go look up the answer before you ask a question" . So I vote with my wallet, and where I shop, thats it. I'm happy

 

All I can think is that I know many other people that would have said the same thing (including myself), but Donald beat us to it. That particular question set is on probably every thread that touches that system...

 

No problem chapse. If you will notice I have over 1,700 posts here...most of them helping people with their questions.

However when someone comes along and starts a new thread that is asking questions that have been asked and answered more than once a gentle reminder to do a search before posting fits the etiquette of this forum. (it is bad enough making a post without looking around for your answer first, but starting a new thread crosses the line)

As you can see from the other posts here by people who have been around this forum a long time, including the Moderator, my comment was not out of line. In addition, the Customer Service record of PowerNotebooks.com speaks for itself. I think with a little more research and introspection you will find that your fears (and possibly your comments) are unwarranted.

 

Maybe your right and they are unwarranted , never thought or what you said was out of line, however, here was my perspective. Given the fact that there are numerous people on this board that would have said the same thing (maybe I would have as well) , that in itself is totally understood, BUT, you as a vendor selling laptops are not one of the masses here, your one of the very few that we as consumers, have to make decisions on when choosing where to spend our dollars. So was just surprised, mainly I guess because I'm in marketing. Could be that was my thought process , would assume every answer you give would be verbose vs terse, such that you would be thinking about potential customers. But in your most recent post you talk about "crosses the line" , geez, this is a forum to help people who have questions (maybe dumb ones , maybe not searched, whatever it is) but "crosses the line"

 

fwiw, I can understand both points of view. I have asked questions on self-help boards, worked self-help boards, and even run them.

There is nothing out of line when it comes to a gentle reminder, but having 1700+ posts actually is the reason the gentle reminders are made. The more time you spend doing something, the more times you answer the same question over and over. It is not unlike driving in a car with a child who keeps asking "Are we there yet?" You still love the child, but the same question drives one to distraction.

On the other side, a new person to the forum does not know if a question has been asked and answered a million times. Searching sounds like an easy option to people who are familiar with and used to message forums, but I can tell you without a doubt in my mind that many people haven't the ability to effectively search a forum.

They may skim a few threads headlines, but many of these do not offer any insight. They may read a few of these threads, then give up and ask the question after "wrongly" deducing it has not been asked.

The search function on many forums are scattershot at best, and most people really do not understand how searches work (for example, searching for 9260 and 8800 will in most cases result in ALL threads with either, rather than all threads with both, but search for +9260 and +8800 will give you a more specific search with both).

And many people simply lack the compunction to research because they are so used to being spoon-fed answers--I am not saying that this is a good thing, indeed it is a bad thing, but they have been conditioned to ask first and look later simply by experience.

fwiw (again), I have always found that a short answer with a canned "this is actually a commonly asked question, and you may be able to find your answers more quickly in the future by scanning other topics or using the search function the forum provides" results in not only that person being thankful and being a more active researcher, but others who stumble on it as well.

Again, I see nothing wrong with Donald's answer and I think you are making a big mistake passing up on PowerNotebooks as a vendor. They are among the very best notebook vendors out there. There was nothing wrong with trying to direct people to think/act.

You came upon his answer and your perception colored it wrong, just as his perception made it perfectly acceptable with no ill will intended.

 

Hmmmm, win the battle and lose the war, your correct on forum search engines not being very good. Donald's posts can be as correct and right as others deem possible, and my perception may be totally wrong (in others eyes) , BUT, the point being missed (in my myopic view of the world) , is he has a laptop business to run, I do not , and neither do the other 99.99% of the readers here, so it just was sort of interesting to me (maybe a new business model) on ways to build a client base, by resorting to chastising the poster / potential new customer. As previously stated, I agree with what Donald wrote, would probably have made the same statement on doing a search first, there is nothing wrong with it, BUT, I'm not running a business that does rely on this forums participants in order to be profitable. If I had a business to run, would answer every question possible, hoping to attract new customers. What was germane to me was not whether the post was correct or incorrect, it was only interesting from a business perspective. Oh well , on to more laptop shopping, and other forum topics, think I will go into hibernate mode here and be a voyeur for a while and just read posts, or I could ask a question about quad core laptops

 

I don't mean to beat a dead horse, but I don't want chapse to feel like everyone's against him on this point. I think a lot of people get scared off from posting on message boards because of situations just like this, and I really hate to see that happen.

While the content of Donald's message was appropriate, IMO it is the tone in which it was delivered that will cause issues every time. I think people tend to forget that even in text, there is more to a message than words alone. Should posters be encouraged to perform a search on previously answered questions? Of course. Does that mean people with the answers shouldn't help them? I would say no, but again that is my opinion. However, I don't think there's any reason to post a response that is so completely dismissive and rude.

Donald, this certainly does affect your business, whether you like it or not. If not for Notebook Review, I would have never heard of PowerNotebooks.com. So, I can tell you, I think this is a big potential source of business for you. I would guess you agree, since you post here a great deal. Again, in my opinion, your posts here have a lot more influence over my decision to do business with your company than your customer service rating. Heck, the first thing I ever learned about customer service was that it required empathy - trying to understand the other person's point of view. However, I consistently see your posts doing quite the opposite - trying to force your point of view. I will be spending around $4,000 in the very near future on a laptop, but it will not be from PowerNotebooks.com (a fact I had decided before this thread even started) for this very reason.

My point may be futile, since you seem to feel completely justified in your actions, but if you would listen to one piece of advice: It's not just what you say, it's how you say it.

 

So about that d900c. It's gonna be a beast huh? I want me one too.

 

Thing's like this are why I tend to avoid forum's. I get tired of people trying to extract touchy feely information out of text. I know alot of the things I say are deemed "harsh" by people who don't know me, but I'm german and don't plan to change my culture for your happyness in my english text...

 

Beast would be an understatement, currently there is testing the NP9260 with quad cores scheduled (as soon as they get the laptop to test). The 8800's however are possibly months down the road so my plan it to buy the NP9260 ASAP with only one 7950 and jump on dual 8800's when / if they're available.
Again folks, I apologize to this forum, I only wanted to know how to get a hold of the hottest laptop ever made. I DID do a search, I didn't find the answer. I posted a question (I guess) not quite right. So peace out everyone, lets get back to the real issue, "where's my next laptop?"

 

Hey! That was my recommendation to you!
Do I get a finder's fee?

 

it is the best to wait on laptop with 7950gtx and possibility to upload to some dx10 later

 

Does anybody know if it is easy to switch out video cards in Clevos?

 

its usually 4 screws per videocard

 

Four screws....and $600 for the 8800 laptop part! It does not make sense to upgrade the graphics card in a laptop for that price. My price is a guess, but im probably not far off the mark.

 

Most people that can afford this system to begin with probably have a flexible enough budget to accommodate the cards..

 

Just thought I'd toss out there a juicy tidbit... turning on PAE(36bit addressing) mode you can crank this notebook to 8GB of ram if you really needed to, according to Intel's white sheet. Of course this assumes that the market see's a 4gb notebook dimm during this machines lifetime

http://download.intel.com/design/chipsets/datashts/31305302.pdf

If we are all very lucky, and with a little elvin magic, this machine will have quad core, 8800's, and 8gb ram

 

I am in the que for a d900c from rj tech. They were the only vendor who would sell to me without a cpu. I have a x6800 sitting on my shelf which I pulled from a computer that was upgraded to a quad core. I am only going to install xp for now, I am waiting for vista sp20 ... or whatever to roll out and be supportive of equipment. I will post a review as soon as I can on my build of this machine etc. My current understanding is an eta of May 15 for the machine to get to resellers. I kind of like the pre-order status and I have benefitted from the lead time to ask folks on the forum about secondary things, laptop coolers, cases etc. The 900k has similar physical specs which helped in where , and who I could ask. Gophn has been great.

I am replying in this thread as I want to make a simple point, regarding how new, and possibly redundant questions are asked, when I see a redundant question showing up, I tend to say look here and provide the link. Forum search engines including this forum are average in their boolean logic and usually force the novice to wade through a sea of weak hits. I still consider myself a novice in so many tech areas that I feel I am the beneficiary of even a redundant question or poorly thought out question. I believe the same amount of time can be spent by replying positively vs negatively.

From personal experience how I was treated when buying my Asus laptop directly influenced which vendor I eventually chose for my current clevo purchase. In fact when shopping for its extended battery after the purchase of my w7j, one eseller was so rude to my purchasing agent that I sent a letter to the head of the company who posts regularly on the asus forum here, essentially he laughed at her when she said she wanted to purchase two batteries and pay for it with a PO, he then said that they only set up POs for major corps and whereas no-bodys like us have to pay via credit card. Of course in my letter I informed this individuals boss that my company is a not for profit which actually sits on the second largest endowment in the US and that our annual IT budget, annual mind you is more than 2.5 million dollars. Subsquent posts in the asus forum show this individual has had similar issues. Now its time to buy a new wave of machines, and I am starting with a look at a Clevo. The process may start with a battery, or a redundant question. My $0.02

 

Hmm.. searching "sager quad core" will pull up many results. The first 5 all are answers, or at least separate threads that contain the answer (some better then others). I honestly don't see the harm is asking people to search, because one of the most annoying features about forum's is that on "hot topics" there will be many threads that all have "peices" of my answer, and each other those threads will be replied to seperately by different user's just finding answers difficult. Then you get someone who doesn't give the search engine a few tries (or atleast checking the thread names by hand for the first page or three, again, showing threads titled on these questions) will get another thread going. This causes the data to get even more out of sync, and will cause even more confusing reading for the person asking... Why? because on thread A someone says "sure" while on thread B someone clarified and says they just got off the phone with an engineer and the answer is maybe, while on another thread someone is going "no way, never gonna happen".

I also believe that there is an "advanced" search form that improves the quality of your results by furthering your criteria.

I'm still thinking that "beggar's can't be chooser's" is a great way to think of a forum. Maybe more common is "you get what you pay for". People are volunteering answers when they can, and these people are just looking out for themselves just as much as the readers they are trying to help. While someone is answering a redundant question, someone else might be waiting for an answer that nobody has tried to help. Well, now the helpful person has lost their time and can't post anymore, making the person wait even longer. Also, telling someone that they could find the answer with a little work is much more polite then not giving them any answer at all and having the person that asked being ignored. Also, with that time the questioner sit's around waiting for an answer most of the time, they probably could have found the answer by manually traversing the topics and reading things that sound close.

my 2 cent's donated.. which is more then I'm paid to be here =P

 

I agree with Pyro on this. In a public forum such as this is not endorsed by any vendor or reseller, every poster is in the same boat as anyone else when it comes to exchanging information. If one wants professional and fully accountable answers contact the vendors or resellers directly.

People come here to get their answers faster and without compromise. That is what they get fast answers and no compromise. As entusiasts happen's that usually we get very good answers but sometimes we need to search. A little price to pay IMHO.

Trance
PS: My 2 cents

 

This may help to answer your question. It will undoubtedly prove to be the "hottest" laptop ever made; literally. I'm impatiently waiting for mine and I hope to be happy when it's finally delivered. Bon Appetit: www.pcmicroworks.com

 

Good lord, 1 post and it just has to be on something that is 7 months old. Way to necropost!!!!FTW!!!

 

The problem with this... Is that the application has to be designed to user PAE... So having the PAE extensions configured won't do anything until the application can support it....


Joe

 

"With its custom military grade carbon fiber lid..." Yeah!
Errorfree and bulletproof

 

Wu Jen,the D901C may be old news,but the quad core and upcoming 8800M GTX is NOT. This is undoubtedly the fastest laptop in the world,and that post was appreciated.

 

Necroposting something from 5 months ago that was answered already by Paladin44 is bad, mkay? Otherwise the forums would be filled with utter crap. Especially for a post like this with outdated information in it. There are many other threads that cover all of this in a much more up to date fashion already available. It is very suspicious when a person with 1 post comes on a forum and all they do is hock a reseller. That is against the forum rules.

 

I still fail to see your point . That link directs me to a site that builds the fastest laptop in the world(D901C-quad core,SLi8800M GTX,800MHZ RAM).
Where`s the error ,dude?

 

Thanks! I'm from the government, and I'm here to help! As far as I'm concerned, I answered the man's question and Wu can only complain about it. There's something definately screwed up there. Way to encourage people to post useful and relevant information!

 

I would not call answering a question that was asked 7 months ago to be actually 'answering' it. Where do you draw the line? Pull up posts that were never answered 1 year ago? 3 years? 10? There is nothing relevant or useful there that has not already been posted. Thats why most users are encouraged to search before posting. It cuts down on forum clutter.

 

Interesting viewpoint. I didn't mean to cramp up your finger from having to click on an extra thread that was "old". There was an open question in thread and I answered it. I'm glad eleron thought it was useful at least; cheers! As far as where the line is drawn, I guess I'll leave that up to the Admins who can lock the thread whenever they deem necessary. I've noticed that whining tends to clutter up forums as well, so with that, I won't dignify it any further by replying again.

 

My fingers will recover with time and thanks!