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    Nvidia Verde BETA 275.50 Released

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by MrDJ, Jun 20, 2011.

  1. MrDJ

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    know if they can be installed to a laptop using GTX 560M without using modded inf????
     
  3. MrDJ

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    in the release notes it states
    i think they meant newley released, lol.
     
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    I just tried downloading and installing but.... no luck... -.-;;;;
     
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    ahh bugger. i wish nvidia would pull their finger out and sort these problems out.
     
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    I think it supports the 560M but they prob have the generic OEM ID in it and not the same one Sager uses.

    Just mod this one too, lol
     
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    Modded inf for GTX 560M support HERE
     
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    Just thought I'd post my results. Went up close to 200 points in 3DMark2011 with the new drivers on my 560m. I recommend the download!
     
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    great, thanks for posting that.
     
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    Any tests with GTX 280Ms? I know the performance basically stopped squeezing, but you never know... =P.
     
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    Based off the stock or the 275.33 drivers?
     
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    Off of stock. I got my laptop 2 days ago, so stock was probably a relatively recent driver.
     
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    I can't get this driver to install! I have a 460M

    The installer keeps hanging on this spot. I've tried 3 times now and have waited over 20 minutes (which never happens with driver installs).

    Any ideas what's going on here?

    [​IMG]
     
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    Did you attempt the clean install option? And possibly did you download the incorrect version? (x32 when it should be x64 or something)? Just clearing the air to better help you.
     
  16. Anthony@MALIBAL

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    What drivers are you upgrading from? Clean install will clear away any profile settings and uninstall the previous drivers, but uninstalling the old ones first by hand and running driver sweeper will guarantee it's clean.

    You don't happen to have an SSD boot drive/HDD secondary drive do you? (even more specifically, with a sym link setup from the SSD to the HDD? The sym link seems to have been a problem with the 275.33 drivers, but I'm not sure if it carried over to the 275.50)

    It shouldn't even get that far if you're trying to install the wrong version. If I recall correctly, Nvidia gives you an unsupported platform error before the installer does anything if that's the case.
     
  17. Electric Shock

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    Yeah I was on 275.33 and I do have an SSD w/HDD symlink setup. Symlinks would be very difficult to remove and recreate all over again. I don't have any essential system files symlinked however. It's just stuff like steam, etc. Clean install also hangs. What do you recommend? Removing the mechanical drive in the meantime?
     
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    It seems like a really strange issue. I only noticed it when trying to upgrade my desktop that I have my C:/Users folder symlinked to D:/Users on (the install works fine on my non-linked Lotus P150hm with the same SSD primary/HDD secondary setup). It appears to have been an issue with the script Nvidia uses in the install. I think the only thing people were able to do to get it working was to remove the sym link.

    This thread was the only info I could find:

    Geforce driver 275.33 fails to install - NVIDIA Forums

    Try skipping to post #44 on there, that's the only reported work-around I haven't tried myself yet.

    There doesn't seem to be any official work-around, and it sounds like 275.50 still has the same issue. They may fix it in the next major release though (2xx.xx).

    EDIT: I don't think removing the mechanical drive would help, because the sym link is still present. (It just wouldn't go anywhere, obviously)
     
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    This is extremely frustrating. I removed my C:\Users symlink and it's still hanging and I have to hard reboot. Which driver can I safely use that won't do this?

    Mine won't even finish installing the driver so I can't kill setup.exe as post 44 explains.
     
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    !%!!@%$ I've removed every single symlink on my system manually and it still hangs! I've used driver sweeper to clean every single instance of Nvidia on my system and it still hangs. I tried to install 275.33 again and the same problem.

    This is absurd! Stupid Nvidia. Now I have no graphics driver and no way to install the drivers or NV control panel, etc.

    Malibal #2, were you able to get the driver installed on your desktop with the symlink?
     
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    No, I tried when it was released for a few hours, couldn't get it, and reverted back to the 270 drivers. I've just been running the old drivers because I'm also hesitant to remove the symlink to try to get around it (C:/Users is huge on the secondary drive).

    You removed your symlink and moved everything back to the main drive? I take it you installed 275.33, added the sym link at some point after that, and then tried upgrading to 275.50? I'd suggest in the meantime rolling back to 270.61 as it should install no problem, even with the sym link still there. There must still be some trace of it that's throwing off the installer.

    EDIT: If 270 doesn't install for you, then you might have other issues besides the sym link holding it up. I know that 270 loaded just fine when 275 would fail in the same way yours did.
     
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    Yes I installed 275.33 previously and added a few symlinks. None are essential system files. It's still like my games folder for Steam and some virtualization images. I will try the 270 drivers soon.
     
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    What I could tell you is, just stay with the 275.33 drivers. They're still good; and the WHQL will be officially supported when the non-beta release pokes its head out. Won't kill ya, at least, and no worrying about frozen drivers
     
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    Well I am in major trouble here. I cannot install any drivers. The Nvidia installer just hangs.

    I am at a total loss about what to do. I even went back to the one on the disc that shipped with the unit.

    I have gone and removed everything with driver sweeper. Now the GPU doesn't even show up in device manager as a GTX 460M. It just shows up as standard VGA adapter and I'm stuck at a horrible resolution.

    What is wrong?! I hate you Nvidia!
     
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    The sym link wasn't your only problem then. Some other piece of software has to be causing a conflict. It's hard to say what though. Can you just system restore back to when the 275.33 drivers were installed and stay with those? A clean install of Windows would fix it for sure (short it being a hardware issue, but it doesn't sound like one)- but that's obviously a last resort.
     
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    Being an SSD, system restore was disabled to minimize writes to the drive so that is not an option.

    I am beginning to fear that I will have to format and reinstall Windows (again incurring a tremendous amount of writes onto the SSD).

    I've done everything I can think of, even trying to manually force the "Standard VGA Adapter" to choose the GTX 460M drivers but it won't work, it doesn't find compatible hardware.
     
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    I just thought of something, and if it was said before I missed it, but can you manually disable your display driver in hardware manager? If you can, then uninstall the drivers and then re-install the drivers (also remembering to delete your app data temp folder/nVidia folder prior to this, so it'll be clean) and it should install then automatically select your discrete, drivered GPU as your main display. I hope this works. It's just a shot in the dark for me though.
     
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    I had the exact same issue yesterday (8130 w/ 460M, regular HDD). I eventually managed to reinstall 275.33, but installing 275.50 is still a no go. I tried the "stock" installer from Nvidia, also tried the modified INF file from Atmosk to no avail. Like you said, extremely frustrating, first time I've had an issue with the drivers, and I typically install every Beta release that comes out.

    At first, I think MSI afterburner was causing an issue... after uninstaling it I managed to reinstall 270.33, but that's as far as I got
     
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    I'm surprised to see anyone having any issues at all installing, it's been years since I've had a serious issue installing forceware releases.

    This release among others installed as expected without issue for me, I'm wondering if it's more about some freak issue involving a myriad of software incompatibilities (security software?) maybe, I don't think it's user error but more likely something interfering at a low level like some AV software does at times with driver installations, some odd stuff can happen when multiple apps are trying to manage the same data areas and gate-keep system changes.

    Also keep in mind that the display driver technically falls under it's own super-set of security due to it being exempt from Win 7 64's strict driver signature enforcement potentially opening the door for even more bizarre security software behavior.
     
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    Thought of that... I tried disabling firewall (Comodo) and AV (Avast!)... But again, no luck. As you say, most likely a software conflict of some sort (as 270.33 had no issues under the sames conditions)... Still trying to nail it down but going through a process of elimination. Not fun. The only positive aspect is that if I uninstall everything, wipe the system of Nvidia drivers, I'm able to reinstall the previous version
     
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    Ok, FYI managed to get it installed. It required a full uninstallation of the previous Nvidia driver & MSI Afterburner. Then, completely shut off AV and Firewall (no just disabling, I had to completely close the programs).

    Once that was done, the installer completed.
    Pain in the , but it worked. I suspect the culprit was the Comodo firewall (protects from changes to the registry amongst other things) more than the AV...
     
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    did you use driver sweeper in safe mode though. i also use cc cleaner in safe mode as driver sweeper seems to leave a few things behind on these new drivers.
     
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    I may try this but after the ordeal last time (and near reformat) I don't know if I am willing. I was already running explorer as administrator and and disabled any software I thought was interfering like the AV but I did not touch the firewall. Why would the firewall have anything to do with installing these drivers? They make no attempt to connect in or out.

    I wish there was a way to display all the symlinks in my system at a time. I may have left a symbollic link I forgot about when I removed them manually.

    I wish this was Linux and I could just sudo everything.
     
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    I have not been able to update my 560M GTX driver to the 275.33 or 275.50. Everytime I launch the installer is says "The graphics driver could not find compatible graphics hardware." Any idea why?

    Also my 3dmark 11 was P2058. Is this low? Not sure how this compares to everyone else.

    Primary Hard Drive: ~ 500GB (w/ 4GB SSD Memory) Seagate XT 7200RPM NCQ Hybrid (Serial-ATA II 300 - 32MB Cache)
    Processor: - 2nd Generation Intel® Core™ i7-2630QM, 2.0-2.8GHz, (32nm, 6MB L3 cache)
    Ram: ~ 8,192MB DDR3 1600MHz Dual Channel Memory (2 SODIMMS)
    Graphics: 560M GTX
     
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    You need the motified INF from Atmosk to install the drivers for 560M
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/sager-clevo/564375-atmosks-nvidia-clevo-support-modded-infs.html

    A score in the 2000's is normal.
     
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    Because Sager/Clevo's version of the 560M is not supported by default. You need a modified .inf file for it to work. The first post of the Clevo driver thread has links to download the appropriate files for each driver set.