Official 8850 Pre-Order thread!

Well the new 8850 (W880U) is about to launch I figured I would create a thread for all of us preordering this beast! I'll update with details as soon as the sites update!

http://www.powernotebooks.com/configure.php?special=799

Intel® Core™ i5 & i7 Mobile Quad Processors
Intel® Core™ i5-520M processor (2.40~2.93GHz, 35W) w/3MB Intel® Smart Cache - 2 Cores, 4 Threads
Intel® Core™ i5-540M processor (2.53~3.06GHz, 35W) w/3MB Intel® Smart Cache - 2 Cores, 4 Threads
Intel® Core™ i7-620M processor (2.66~3.33GHz, 35W) w/4M Intel® Smart Cache - 2 Cores, 4 Threads
Intel® Core™ i7-720QM processor (1.6~2.80GHz, 45W) w/6M Intel® Smart Cache - 4 Cores, 8 Threads
Intel® Core™ i7-820QM processor (1.73~3.06GHz, 45W) w/8M Intel® Smart Cache - 4 Cores, 8 Threads
Chipset: Mobile Intel® PM55 Express Chipset

Display
17.3” Full HD (1920x1080) 16:9 LED Backlit Super Clear Glossy Widescreen

Disk Drives
Up to TWO 500GB 7,200RPM or Intel® X25-M 80GB or 160GB SATA Solid-State Hard Drives (RAID 0/1 support - 2 Drives Only)
Combo Dual Layer SuperMulti 8x8x4x2.4x +/- DVD R/RW - 24x10x24 CD R/RW Drive w/Softwares
Blu-Ray (Read or Read/Wrote) BD-DVD-CD R-RW Drive (Optional)
Built-in memory card reader: Secure Digital (MMC/RSMMC/MS/MS Pro/MS Duo/SD/Mini-SD)

Memory
4GB DDR3/1333 Memory (up to 8GB Dual Channel)
Two SO-DIMM sockets

Network
Gigabit Ethernet LAN w/RJ-45
Built-in 802.11 A/G/N WiFi card
Built-in Intel® Centrino® Ultimate-N 6300 Wireless Card (Optional)
Built in 56k V.90/V.92 MDC Fax/Modem

Audio Features
Built-in Intel Azalia High Definition Surround 3D sound system
7.1 Channel Output
2 built-in stereo speakers and microphone
Mic-in, Line-in, Headphone-out, and S/PDIF - out ports

Express Card Slot
Supports Express Card 34/54 Devices


Video Controller
nVIDIA GeForce GTX 480M 256bit w/2GB GDDR5
PCI Express
Supports two DIFFERENT applications
open at one time; one on the External
Monitor, and one on the Laptop Screen
Multi-tasking has never been more Productive!

I/O Interfaces
1 USB 3.0 Port
3 USB 2.0 Ports
Built in Bluetooth V2.0+EDR
Integrated 2.0 Megapixel Camera
IEEE-1394a Firewire Port
HDMI Port: HDCP compliant
DVI-I Video Out port
eSATA Port
Mic-in, Line-in, Headphone-out, and S/PDIF - out ports
Kensington lock support
No serial, Parallel or PS/2 ports

Input Device
Full size keyboard with Numeric Key Pad
Touch Sensor Hot Keys for E-Mail, Web Browser, and Mute
MS Windows Hot Keys for LCD Brightness, Suspend, Panel/CRT Display
Integrated touchpad with Scrolling function

Battery
Removable 3 Cell Li-Polymer battery pack 3800mAh, 42.18Wh
Battery Life is about 40 minutes

Electrical Requirements
Full Range 120W AC Adapter AC-in 100~240V, 50~60Hz
DC output 20V, 6.0A

Size and Weight
16.25" x 11" x 1.69~2.25"
8.35 lb. including battery

Warranty
1 or 3-Year Parts & Labor Warranty
Lifetime DOMESTIC 24/7 Telephone Technical Support

Additional Features
Built in Fingerprint Scanner
Deluxe Carrying Case Options Available
12V Auto/Airplane Adapter (Optional)
Windows 7 Optional
Drivers and Utility CD
User's Manual

 

It has launched Only GPU option is the GTX 480M so far.

 

Oooohhhh, neat.

 

$650 difference between the 870

 

Well, it has "launched" but will not begin shipping until around 6-25-10.

First pre-orders ship FIRST!

 

what do we think the eta is on a real, hand son review?

 

Barbones are ready to order now for the W880CU - NP8850.

 

The Sager np8850 is supposed to have one USB 3.0 port as well. (Just in case this wasn't previously mentioned)

 

and sata 300?

 

Neither Intel nor any 3rd party that we know of has made a SATA III controller for laptops.

Hopefully we will see one by next year.

 

That is going to be available with Sandy Bridge. Just wait another 6 months .

 

^^^^
Maann...more waiting?

Let the backorders begin! Lol!

 

I saw this custom gaming laptops - Welcome to Sager Notebooks so I assumed Clevo would be putting it in all their new systems. Unless of course they mean the drive is Sata 3 and not the controller but I doubt it.

 

SATA 300 is different from SATA III.

SATA 300 is a way of saying 3Gbps, which is SATA II speed.

SATA III speed is 6Gbps.

 

Got it, then I just got confused how it was presented.

 

Dang that's an expensive card.

 

This is the computer I have been waiting for a while now. BUT it is like $300 too expensive. I hope it gets cheaper by the end of the summer. :S

 

Man at this price configured its only $374 more to go with the 9280 with a desktop processor and that if I'm going to spend that much I should just consider waiting for SLI 480m's.

What do you guys think?

 

Well, the 880 has the USB 3.0. As well as the weight and size difference between 9280 and 880. Also, 880 only cost 2k if you config with i5, 9280 cost 2.6k if you configure with 480M. 600 dollars difference + No USB 3.0 + heavier for the desktop 930 processor. Still worth it though if you need the CPU power because desktop i7s are imba.

 

I dont care about size I'm buying this strictly for gaming. So would you recommend waiting for the x8100 SLI pricing and is it worth it to get the desktop processor vs Mobile for gaming?

 

X8100 is EoL, actually D900F also, they are actually abominations in Clevo's history, being split apart from D901C, one with desktop CPU, one with SLI. However, they are going to be combined back again into X7200. If you want the utmost power you can get X7200, but it's not going to be cheap. I doubt X8100 will get the 480M SLI, at most it will get will probably be 5870MR CF, because it's thermal design is not enough for 480M SLI.

 

So is there really that much of an advantage with a desktop CPU vs the i7-720m model in gaming?

 

No not really at all just when gaming with RTS games especially when doing LAN parties but besides that not much at all, good for animation and graphics though in a mobile package.

 

any idea what changes in cooling they made on the 880 vs 870? I would love to be able to put a 480m in my 870

 

If you need the CPU, yes, especially for RTS games and other work purpose stuff.

About how much performance difference, let's just say that the top end 980X desktop is more than twice the speed of the top end 920XM notebook version.

 

The Sager NP8850 case is slightly larger to accommodate the new thermal solution. The nVIDIA GeForce GTX 480M will not go into your 870...safely that is!

 

To be precise Sager has stated "it is revised with a new bottom case in order to support NV GF GTX 480M". Judging by the price increase on the AC Adapter for the W880 it appears the power system has also been upgraded.

I know it doesn't really help with your W870, those with a 9280 Sager has released a upgrade kit to the 480.

 

X8100 isn't EOL!

As mentioned the main (noticable) differences between the W870 and W880 are a USB 3.0 port and the under side which is a little thicker around the GPU area. Just a small facelift

 

Plus way way better speakers on the 8850! Finally. Justin W how are you doing?

 

Please tell Clevo to add a bigger battery so I can buy one as well .

 

Maybe Clevo will give some attention to the battery on the W880CU. It will be even shorter life now with it's 42 WH battery with the 480M...

 

Hey, I'm doing great! Thanks for asking I haven't been on NBR for a while as I've been extremely busy with other things within the company. Good to be back again!

 

Long time lurker; first time poster.

So is the Sager 8850 a modified 8760 with the following changes?

*) Can handle the higher power and cooling demands of the nVIDIA GeForce GTX 480M card.

*) Different cooling design on the bottom of the laptop.

*) A little thicker.

*) Has one USB 3.0 port + three USB 2.0 ports.

Did the 8850 replace the Sentilic touchpads (tap-to-scroll) with the Synaptics touchpads to allow finger-slide scrolling?

Are the speaker volume/clarity improved on the 8850 over the 8760?

 

Welcome! In a nutshell you are correct. As for the touch pad and speaker clarity it is yet to be confirmed by Sager.

 

Question to resellers:

Will the W870CU be flat-out discontinued soon? If so, is there any ETA for it's termination?

 

The W880CU will be available alongside the W870CU, it's not a replacement, more of a co-existent

 

Tell Clevo we are highly disappointed that the gtx480m isn't supported with the w870cu. And.....that it makes no sense to preorder the w880u without even knowing what the performance difference is going to be between the 5870m and GTX480m.

 

There are physical differences between the 870 and 880 chassis which are necessary to accomodate the GTX 480M so though I can understant why you are disappointed unfortunately it can't be helped.

 

I'm excited to see some real benches with this. Average FPS in L4D2, Crysis, etc. I could give two craps about 3dMark Vantage and 06 because last time I checked I dont really play either of them.

 

Is 870 EOL or is Clevo planning to upgrade the existing 870 with USB 3.0, speakers ?

 

Sorry , there will be no upgrade for the W870CU / NP8760 to enable it to run the nVidia 480m, USB 3.0 or the other enhancements.

 

@kohinoor

Read Neil's comment, two posts above your own-

 

The W870CU / NP8760 are hardly "old news". They still have the latest chipset, the PM55 and run the latest i7 CPU's and can run the Ati Mobility HD 5870! Not bad in my book!

 

Nope their not bad in my book either and plus their awesome, especially the 15.6 one which is awesome and such a great alternative from the envy 15, people tend to forget about the 5870. I love that card so much. Justin good to have you back, all the contributions of the resellers are awesome.

 

I was just browsing Sager's website and what I see from the gallery is that the 8850 has 1 GPU fan. With a 480m in there I wonder if it can handle the heat. The 9285 on the other hand has two GPU fans which appear ideal for the undoubtedly hot GPU. From the gallery, the 8850's spacious and chiclet-style keyboard appears superior over the 9285's apparently cramped keyboard. Being a gamer and having a Gateway FX I can tell you that having a tiny Ctrl key SUCKS. In addition the arrow keys appear to be far too small on the 9285.

 

I doubt 8850 uses only a single fan, even 8760 uses 2 fans, and 8850 is just a modified 8760 with 480M and USB3, no point for them to change the design much, unless they are using something like one huge fan at the bottom or something...

 

Okay I think I was looking at the diagram wrong.

8850


#2 refers to the smaller fan and the vents to the right of it, correct? Regardless, it appears 8850's second gpu fan is smaller than the type used on the 9285

 

9285 has 3 fans (or is it 4?), 8850 has 2 fans, one on the left and one on the right, both are same size, though it's possible that 8850 has an additional 3rd smaller fan for the GPU from the picture.

Oh... Nvm, you meant GPU fan, I was talking about total number of fans for the notebook.

 

I'm not shelling out the money for a new laptop... but if I was I would be enticed to pay a little extra for the additional cooling the 9285 provides, considering I would be buying it for the 480m.

However, like I mentioned before, the 8850's keyboard appears less cramped.

Edit: For comparison of keyboards

8850


9825


$150 MSRP price difference

 

The NP8850 has 2 fans, 1 for the cpu, 1 for the GTX480, The NP9285 has 3 fans, 2 for the CPU/chipset and one for the GTX480.