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    Official Nvidia Announcement 400M Series

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by MrDJ, Sep 3, 2010.

  1. MrDJ

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    NVIDIA Optimus and 3D Vision Notebooks Featuring New GeForce 400M Series GPUs Arrive for the Holidays

    what weve all been waiting for.

    NVIDIA Newsroom
     
  2. physib

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    and now on to sandy bridge :)
     
  3. Kevin

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    Man, I hope Clevo offers the 470M as an alternative in the W880CU.
     
  4. physib

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    I think I read something on notebookcheck about 470M downclocking itself to save power when not overloaded.

    Or X8100... or the upcoming X7200... *drool*
     
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    x8100 or x7200 both are great Multi GPU platforms.
    the X8100 is the "lights" version as the CPU is half TDP than those in the x7200.

    Myself, i like better the design of the x8100 with touch and gaming buttons.
    However, the x7200 might end up using a better LCD, and it's desktop CPU might last longer than it's mobile brother in the x8100.

    One thing to note about sandy bridge upcoming CPUs is turbo 2.0 wich is suppose to turbo beyond the designated TDP if the cooloing allows.

    A clevo chasis with good cooling (the kind of cooling a 130TDP CPU laptop has) might have enough headroom to turbo the Sandy Bridge CPU past it's designated 45/55w into desktop like TDP

    Man, it's decisions decision, it couldn't even be a better time to buy laptop now.
     
  6. Kevin

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    Eurocom claims that RGB LED is on the way for the x7200, so that would sway me heavily in that direction.
     
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    Does anyone know if the 470m will be in the X8100? I was literally 2 seconds away from pulling the trigger on an Np8120 with Dual ATI 5870s before I saw this line up.
     
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    So Sager should have models with Nvidia gtx 460m/470m along with Sandy Bridge CPU's come Q1-Q2 2011? That's when I'm looking to buy a Sager and that would be perfect however it depends on how these Nvidia 400m cards compare to Radeon 5870 or the mobile 6800 series if it's released.
     
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    It will be but you are going to have to wait just a little bit more. It was just announced, but availability will be immediatly and i don't think you have to wait to much
     
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    That would definetly tip the balance in favour of the x7200. Does anyone know how good the viewing angles on such displays are ?

    i had a samsung c-PVA lcd and display angle viewing was like 178 degrees, 180 being flat line, so viewing angle was AMAZING.

    A high viewing angle helps esspecialy in laptops where the display is tilted all day long.

    I'm i am to choose the x7200, i won't wait for sandy bridge mobile, since i believe the performance of the desktop core i7 nehalem is going to be superior, or am i wrong ?
     
  11. physib

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    Clock rates are up. Now sure if price will but most likely yes. The biggest reason I would get those is for optimus support.

    Edit: oh nvm I didn't see you were talking about desktop nehalem...
     
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    If they do then I may get the X7200 though it'll take time to stomach it's design (not a big fan of it).
     
  13. Bytales

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    Joker, you have a rgb led in your alienware. How are viewing angles.

    A cheap x7200 would be with 950 (intel shalshed its price in half) and dual 470 or 460 (depending on price).
    I pray to god these 2 cards won't cost like the 480.

    Eurocom said the rgb led is on it's way. Does that mean other vendor like kobalt or mysn will also have this option for the display ?

    MySn allready has the x7200 on their site and adding the second 480 costs a whoping 785 euros. Dear, dear, sweet mother of jesus !!
     
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    The horizontal angles are excellent, the vertical angles are decent but not the greatest. It's a TN panel so it's stuck with TN viewing angle limits but it's one of the better panels out there. Probably the 2nd best to IPS which destroys everything in viewing angles.

    If Eurocomm offers RGB LED, it's only a matter of time before other vendors do the same. I'll find a CPU + ram + extra HDD of eBay and just buy a barebones X7200 with RGB LED + 470m SLI if they have it available. The 480m SLI is too cost prohibitive IMO.
     
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    Never heard of RGB in Clevo barebones. Maybe Eurocom will do this by himself?
     
  16. Daniel Hahn

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    I'll contact mySN in the next days and ask about GTX 470M price, which models will carry the card and about RGB LED as an option for the X7200. That model definitely needs a better display, the stock one is just crap compared even to other Clevo displays.
     
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    Horeziontal angles are more important than vertical for a laptop, but why oh why don't we get a IPS or c-pva panel with rgb instead of the standard TN.

    Are all laptops doomed to use TN panels ?

    I am also curios how big of a difference there will be in price betwen the 460m and the 470m. Especially compared to the price of 5870.

    Why can't we have a display like the one in the samsung galaxy s:
    http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i9000_galaxy_s-review-478p2.php
    With the viewing angles "bordering on perfection".

    We are stuck with the ty TN panels.

    Let's say i understand the ty panel, but why can't there some sort of standard slot for pluging in and plugin out the LCD for easy upgrading. That i won't understand.
     
  18. kaltmond

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    You see the notebook already or just from pics in website?
     
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    HP Elitebook 8540w/8740w use IPS panels. Everyone else doesn't due to the high cost - nowadays cost savings is the priority, even if there is a consumer demand.
     
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    IPS screen isn't the best option for hardcore gamers because of the higher input lag. And yeah, ... the price is another reason.
     
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    I'd be shocked, if Clevo wasn't using the identical Hannstar LED which the W87 and W88 have.
     
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    IPS panels, especially accelerated models use quite a bit more power than TN panels and even more than PVA models. On the desktop no one cares for the difference, but in the laptop the screen plays into the power budget of the machine.
     
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    may I use in m570tu?
     
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    We had a little discussion about it in the owner's lounge. The results of this test are not that great, especially the brightness is under average. However, they also stated that in reality the display looks good and is sufficient for gaming.
    You may not, those new cards are all MXM 3.0b.
    Somehow I think the little power difference should be the least of concers in a notebook that uses a desktop CPU and potentially two 100W GPUs. The battery in this thing is more of an emergency power system anyway.
     
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    then a c-pva panel, as it is in the middle with the consumption, might be the perfect fit.
    I had a c-pva samsung desktop monitor (F2180) and i didn't noticed any lag in games.

    Like someone said, there is a rumor eurocom is prepping RGB led panel for x7200. That would be the first 1080p as ppl say it, with rgb led. And once eurocom offers it for the x7200, all other vendor will offfer it for thier x7200.
    And when all other vendor will offer it for their x7200, they will also offer it for all their other 17" laptops that will fit that display.

    If x7200 is gonna have the rgb led panel, i guess i'll skip the speaker in the msi gx660r and get a x7200 with 950 i7 and dual 470m-s. That shouldn't be that much expensive.
    BUT we are yet to see prices of the recently launched nvidia GPUs.
    I hate the fact that they launch something but they don't announce the price.
     
  26. BaronGalf

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    Eurocom already post the price on all their laptop for the 460 and 470 as an upgrade.
     
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    Hehe, 440$ for 460M and 540 for 470M. I was pretty close :)
     
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    Should be US$474/€372 for GTX 470M and US$386/€303 for the GTX 460M. That's not too bad. MR HD 5870 is US$342, so the GTX 470M costs 38% more (all prices taken from Eurocom). Thats quite a bit, but most people (including myself) will still get it since it should perform better and gives you the advantages you have when owning a Nvidia GPU.