Oh boy - I think I just talked myself out of getting a Sager 5796

For some time now I've been posting here (mainly lurking) and I'm truly thankful for all the great information being shared. Before I begin please know that I truly believe the 5796 is pound for pound the best beast out there, no doubt about it. My sad realization came when I began to realize that I probably didn't need that much power .

I used to game quite a bit on laptops but now I'm mainly a console gamer (if that since 2 kids and work kind of take up some time). With that said having the 9800 GTX is not as important as it once was compared to another less powerful yet still manageable GPU.

I was dead set on buying the 5796 and even waiting until mid to end of august for the 9800 GTX GPU to come out. I then did a quick comparison with another 17 inch notebook like the HP dv7t and found that the 5796 is over $1,000 more for more or less the same configuration. The only differences is that the HP maxes at 1680x1050 on the display and the best GPU available on it is the GForce 9600M GT. Now, I know those are BIG differences to some of you but not as much to me anymore. Other than that, the CPU, Hard Drive (320 7200), RAM and all other options are basically identical (not exactly but basically). The HP also has a more overall business like look (which I'll need) and a normal keypad. The difference in money? $1,000 bucks.

I don't know maybe I'm crazy for thinking of not getting the Sager but It just seems like the HP might be more of a fit for my particular situation.

Sorry for the long rant but your thoughts and comments will be appreciated.

 

Agreed. If you don't need the power, don't get the laptop. But honestly, I wouldn't go with something like HP after you were decided on a Sager. Take a look at some other custom laptops on xoticpc.com or powernotebooks.com and compare them to that HP before you make your final decision. You might find you'll get a better deal for an equal configuration to that HP =)

 

my little opinion:
1) np5796 with white trim
2) if price is concern, the new gateway fx should only cost $1450 or less, with 9800m gts and WUXGA

 

Makes perfect sense; were I you, I'd go with the _HP.

 

I respect your choice, you mentioned that gaming wasn't the main concern. I will mention that people that run review sites that I deal with would rather not use a HP unless their life depended on it.

This is more for people that are interested in performance.
In comparing spec's; we had a thread here yesterday and everything looked the same Clevo vs. Toshiba or Gateway or something. Then when the person actually tested the non-Clevo the results were atrocious! I'm talking like 30% less 3DMarks if I remember right. In high end notebooks, a V-8, is not a V-8 is not a V-8. It comes down to the exact components and tuning to get it into the gaming powerband.

Don't look at 8800/9800 vs 8800/9800 and think that necessarily means you are going to get the same results... food for thought.

 

My Ati X1600 in my 2.5 year old HP Nx9420 is UNDERCLOCKED compared to most other x1600 laptops.
And it`s not the only example.
Plus, take into consideration future proofing, COOLING most important and CUSTOMER SUPPORT.
A company is only as good as the warranty and services it provides, in which case HP is an automated answering robot.

 

Thank you all for your comments. I'm now more confused than before Seriously though - I honestly never thought of going any other direction than the 5796 so I have to figure out what might make the most sense.

I might be able to buy the HP and use it for say under 30 days and see how it goes and if I'm not satisfied get the Sager. It's not a money issue, it's just trying to find the right laptop for the use/needs I have.

I hear what you're saying but you can get that same feeling from just about any dissatisfied customer using any brand of notebook. Of course not many dissatisfied customers with Sager's .

In the end if for some reason you guys weren't getting the 5796 which other 17 inch notebook would you get? The Gateway looks ok but it's all "gamed out" with the FX logos and all and I need something more business like when going in to do demos at clients offices.

Thanks again.

 

Do you absolutely have to go for a 17 inch notebook? You said you wanted something business like that you are bringing with you to demos and clients and I'm not sure a 17 inch is convenient for that.

 

I personally agree. Give me a nice 15.4" with a WSXGA+ screen and I am set. If you don't need the GPU, that is where I would lean.

 

If it's this thread you're thinking of, I'll point out that the particular X305 tested was the lower end model. It comes with the 9700M GTS, a 2.0 P7350 and 1440 x 900. 3dmark06 scores are obviously skewed in such a comparison.

@OP, why not consider the HP 8510P/W or their Centrino 2 counterparts (whenever that is released that is).

 

I concur, for those high-end rigs, we should compare them in 1680x1050 or higher.

 

I actually do need a 17 inch for the workspace and the number pad. Otherwise I would have not looked further than the M860TU

 

Have a look at the HP 8710P/W then.

 

I looked at those but they have less GPU power than the dv7t so that's why I was headed in that direction.

I'm going to run some different configurations on the sager and see if I can find one that works. If I understand the configurations correctly if I select the "white trim" that automatically also changes the back of the screen from black to like a grayish color correct?

Is there a way to get the white trim but keep the back of the screen black?

 

Eh? The 8710P/W's cards beat the Dv7t's. The NVS320M and FX1600M are based on the 8700M GT. The 9600M GT's performance is looking to be around that of the 8600M GT. And in the case of the FX3600M, by quite a fair bit. Don't think you need the upgrade though.

As for the silver/white trim on the 5796, the lid is changed to the white/silver color. I think the 5796 with white/silver trim and a black lid would look very fetching.

 

I take it you're worried about the orange trim? From what I've read, and from the pictures I've seen that were posted by actual owners (i.e., pictures we can be fairly certain weren't airbrushed), the orange trim looks very understated in actuality, and together with the black chassis actually looks rather professional; I would not be concerned about taking one into a business meeting with clients.

 

Santizo: I was going to say, "Check and see if they make a BT numberpad", but a quick search of the internet yielded many other people looking for the same thing. The reason I was going to say that is that even with the 17" - there are certain models that have an irregular layout.

For example, I had someone ask if I could replace a keyboard on a 570-TU because the numberpad configuration was custom. I don't really use it that much, so I never noticed, but they are right. I have no idea why Clevo would have changed it from the standard layout. If you customarily use a numberpad to enter things, I'm sure you want to verify the model you choose has something you are accustomed to.

 

Have you checked the Asus M70M-A1?

http://www.xoticpc.com/asus-m70vma1-p-2442.html

 

Shyster's right. The orange is not audacious or ostentatious in any way. It's kind of a burnt-orange, with a bit of metallic sheen. I was worried, like you, that it would be too bright or gaudy. But it isn't, and I'm happy with it for using anywhere - office, home, coffee shop, etc.. The silver trim does come with a silver lid also, which to me looks a bit less professional. But it is a matter of preference - some people feel that the silver lid and trim look more professional.

 

Why not go with silver? I bought my first 5793 at R and J tech because they had the silver before xotic pc was offering it. That was the only reason I went with them, and they are already offering the silver model. I wouldn't get the orange if you want a business looking laptop, it just draws to much attention, people would only look at my laptop in the office because its larger than usual, that and its not like they can't hear it -.-'.

 

I think the silver lid looks great - I wouldn't be without it. Perhaps it's just hard to get the true feel of the silver unless you see it in person - much like the orange trim.

 

The silver looks like it should be on the kitchen counter next to silverware

 

I take that as a compliment thank very much.

 

I must admit, the silver looks better than I thought. My preference would still be for the black/orange.

Thanks for clarifying that as I wasn't clear on the comparisons between the two versions of cards 8000 and 9000 in that way.

So I'll have to do some serious thinking. My current computer is on it's last breath and I'm going to have to make a decision soon. I might just try out the HP for 21 days and see how I like it. I'll run some games on it and see how it performs and if I'm not fully satisfied I'll jump on the 5796.

Thank you all once again!

 

for 2300 you can get a bangin 5796.... how much was that hp with similar specs? had to be more than 1300